TX St discussion

[AppStFan1]

Do you not think that was due to our constant pressure and good cover down field?

That was the only game the defense was able to do what we want to do for some reason.

This is why I laugh when some folks on 247 and here say that we probably just aren't near as talented as we think we are. How could we beat A&M and control them if we were not talented? There are definitely issues going on here and it is more than just a talent issue, as you know.

We are Not as talented as many claimed we were. That is just a fact. There may be other issues but to discount the lack of talent is just ridiculous.

I never claimed we were the most talented team. I have said numerous times that I expected 9-3, best case, and most likely 8-4 this year. I was expecting a couple losses in November and the 2 P5 games but if we are talented enough to beat A&M then we can't say lack of talent is why we lost to Texas State. There was no excuse for us to lose to Texas State unless something beyond talent is going on behind the scenes.

As for the talent, 99 is the only one I 100% believe in on the DL right now and we have issues at safety for sure. I do think the OL has not looked as good is because we probably have injuries that are being played through. The WRs have had some inconsistent play at times but we got a couple good ones led by Stroman.

I really want us to play Burger at some point to see what we have in him. If he is not really good then 8-4 might be our ceiling in 2023 though.

Do you argue with yourself a lot or just on here?

Maybe you misunderstood what I was trying to say. You said that perhaps some have overestimated our talent.
We have issues beyond talent that are hurting us right now. Just based on talent there is no way we are a 6-6 team but after the loss to Texas State it is possible we end up 6-6.

[AppStFan1]

A&M’s QB was awful.

He’s playing pretty good v bama right now lol

Watch the game against us. He missed multiple passes that would have changed the game. He also put the ball in bad spots on some completions and cost his guys a chance for big time YAC. He may end up being great but he played awful against us.

Do you not think that was due to our constant pressure and good cover down field?

That was the only game the defense was able to do what we want to do for some reason.

I’m not saying we didn’t do anything good in that game but the A&M QB missed some absolutely wide open receivers. Watch it again.

That is true. If they had Bryce Young the rest of their team was good enough that they should have beat us by 17-20 that day. They should have scored at least 3 more TDs and their QB play held them back big time.

[AppSt94]

Football is a wild ride. We beat A&M on the scoreboard and on the stat sheet. The same A&M team that was 2 yards and one play from taking down #1 on their home field last night.

[Apptiger]

Talking to an App hall of famer earlier today,a guy who sees a different game than the one I watch, "talent is not the issue".He laid it on lack of discipline and effort."The mental side of it".

Been saying that a lot the last few years. Seems we just line up and play. No intensity, no discipline. Every game we lose the other team's intensity/want to and fire/motivation seems to dwarf ours.

It also looks to me like we don't gameplan or gameplan well. The only game we looked ready to play all year was A&M. It's pretty obvious other teams study us but we seem to show up unprepared for them. Most of that I put on coaching, the other part is lack of leadership in the locker room.

We are 1-2 in Sun Belt play and are a hail mary away from 0-3 in a league we were projected to win.

[AppStFan1]

Talking to an App hall of famer earlier today,a guy who sees a different game than the one I watch, "talent is not the issue".He laid it on lack of discipline and effort."The mental side of it".

Been saying that a lot the last few years. Seems we just line up and play. No intensity, no discipline. Every game we lose the other team's intensity/want to and fire/motivation seems to dwarf ours.

It also looks to me like we don't gameplan or gameplan well. The only game we looked ready to play all year was A&M. It's pretty obvious other teams study us but we seem to show up unprepared for them. Most of that I put on coaching, the other part is lack of leadership in the locker room.

We are 1-2 in Sun Belt play and are a hail mary away from 0-3 in a league we were projected to win.

I'm 100% with him. Look there is no way a team with a dozen or more NFL prospects should lose to a team with 2. There is more than talent issues when that happens. Football is crazy but we got some stuff going on for sure. We can rebound but a lot has to change.

[bcoach]

It would be interesting to see where we would be if we just made the tackles we should have made. Just the ones we should have. There is a fairly severe penalty for coaches going out and making the tackle themselves.

[bcoach]

Talking to an App hall of famer earlier today,a guy who sees a different game than the one I watch, "talent is not the issue".He laid it on lack of discipline and effort."The mental side of it".

Been saying that a lot the last few years. Seems we just line up and play. No intensity, no discipline. Every game we lose the other team's intensity/want to and fire/motivation seems to dwarf ours.

It also looks to me like we don't gameplan or gameplan well. The only game we looked ready to play all year was A&M. It's pretty obvious other teams study us but we seem to show up unprepared for them. Most of that I put on coaching, the other part is lack of leadership in the locker room.

We are 1-2 in Sun Belt play and are a hail mary away from 0-3 in a league we were projected to win.

I'm 100% with him. Look there is no way a team with a dozen or more NFL prospects should lose to a team with 2. There is more than talent issues when that happens. Football is crazy but we got some stuff going on for sure. We can rebound but a lot has to change.

If we have a dozen or more NFL prospects we need to get them into the game.

[WVAPPeer]

I believe he was referring to TA&M

[AppStFan1]

Talking to an App hall of famer earlier today,a guy who sees a different game than the one I watch, "talent is not the issue".He laid it on lack of discipline and effort."The mental side of it".

Been saying that a lot the last few years. Seems we just line up and play. No intensity, no discipline. Every game we lose the other team's intensity/want to and fire/motivation seems to dwarf ours.

It also looks to me like we don't gameplan or gameplan well. The only game we looked ready to play all year was A&M. It's pretty obvious other teams study us but we seem to show up unprepared for them. Most of that I put on coaching, the other part is lack of leadership in the locker room.

We are 1-2 in Sun Belt play and are a hail mary away from 0-3 in a league we were projected to win.

I'm 100% with him. Look there is no way a team with a dozen or more NFL prospects should lose to a team with 2. There is more than talent issues when that happens. Football is crazy but we got some stuff going on for sure. We can rebound but a lot has to change.

If we have a dozen or more NFL prospects we need to get them into the game.

When NFL teams come on campus there are about 11-13 seniors who get asked about: Peoples, Brice, Hodges, Jones, Hampton, Johnstone, Daley, Earle, Parker, Lawson, D Harrington, B Williams, and of course Noel among the juniors are getting interest. All of them but Johnstone have played. I would say 4-5 of them are legit good enough to likely stick on a NFL roster between Hampton, Peoples, Jones, Hodges, and maybe Brice could stick on a practice squad.

[AppSt94]

Here are two thoughts that I would be interested to hear feedback.

1. This team seems to lack on field leadership. Who is on the field holding teammates accountable with their words and play? We seem to be lacking in that area.

2. I’m not saying that one guy is the root cause or difference maker, but if Huff plays this year, and I think he made the right choice to stop, we probably are sitting at 4-1 right now and everyone is feeling good. It doesn’t absolve the issues that have been brought to light this season. Just opened the eyes of most to things that have been brewing for a few seasons now.

[BambooRdApp]

Here are two thoughts that I would be interested to hear feedback.

1. This team seems to lack on field leadership. Who is on the field holding teammates accountable with their words and play? We seem to be lacking in that area.

2. I’m not saying that one guy is the root cause or difference maker, but if Huff plays this year, and I think he made the right choice to stop, we probably are sitting at 4-1 right now and everyone is feeling good. It doesn’t absolve the issues that have been brought to light this season. Just opened the eyes of most to things that have been brewing for a few seasons now.

On 1. Agree. I wonder if some of this has to do with fact that there were established leaders for like 3 years give the recruiting class that recently graduated and some of the now experienced players did not have to take the lead in that role. Although one may be the most talented in-field... sometimes being a leader takes time to figure out

On 2. I believe it is a combination of things, including missing Huff. Of the key injuries on defense this year, it is to guys that we thought were the core... when you lose 2 or so for a game or part of a game, it impacts the results as the young guys are already learning on the fly...so when experience is missing, it shows some glaring weaknesses. With that said, I hope the experience the young guys are getting will pay dividends down the road.

[mike87]

This may have been said but my opinion, we traveled a long ways to play a team who has never beaten us and was a 20 pt dog according to all the lines. We came out flat and got whooped. Time to move on.

[bcoach]

Talking to an App hall of famer earlier today,a guy who sees a different game than the one I watch, "talent is not the issue".He laid it on lack of discipline and effort."The mental side of it".

Been saying that a lot the last few years. Seems we just line up and play. No intensity, no discipline. Every game we lose the other team's intensity/want to and fire/motivation seems to dwarf ours.

It also looks to me like we don't gameplan or gameplan well. The only game we looked ready to play all year was A&M. It's pretty obvious other teams study us but we seem to show up unprepared for them. Most of that I put on coaching, the other part is lack of leadership in the locker room.

We are 1-2 in Sun Belt play and are a hail mary away from 0-3 in a league we were projected to win.

I'm 100% with him. Look there is no way a team with a dozen or more NFL prospects should lose to a team with 2. There is more than talent issues when that happens. Football is crazy but we got some stuff going on for sure. We can rebound but a lot has to change.

If we have a dozen or more NFL prospects we need to get them into the game.

When NFL teams come on campus there are about 11-13 seniors who get asked about: Peoples, Brice, Hodges, Jones, Hampton, Johnstone, Daley, Earle, Parker, Lawson, D Harrington, B Williams, and of course Noel among the juniors are getting interest. All of them but Johnstone have played. I would say 4-5 of them are legit good enough to likely stick on a NFL roster between Hampton, Peoples, Jones, Hodges, and maybe Brice could stick on a practice squad.

Who do you scout for, you may know a friend of mine.

[AppStFan1]

Been saying that a lot the last few years. Seems we just line up and play. No intensity, no discipline. Every game we lose the other team's intensity/want to and fire/motivation seems to dwarf ours.

It also looks to me like we don't gameplan or gameplan well. The only game we looked ready to play all year was A&M. It's pretty obvious other teams study us but we seem to show up unprepared for them. Most of that I put on coaching, the other part is lack of leadership in the locker room.

We are 1-2 in Sun Belt play and are a hail mary away from 0-3 in a league we were projected to win.

I'm 100% with him. Look there is no way a team with a dozen or more NFL prospects should lose to a team with 2. There is more than talent issues when that happens. Football is crazy but we got some stuff going on for sure. We can rebound but a lot has to change.

If we have a dozen or more NFL prospects we need to get them into the game.

When NFL teams come on campus there are about 11-13 seniors who get asked about: Peoples, Brice, Hodges, Jones, Hampton, Johnstone, Daley, Earle, Parker, Lawson, D Harrington, B Williams, and of course Noel among the juniors are getting interest. All of them but Johnstone have played. I would say 4-5 of them are legit good enough to likely stick on a NFL roster between Hampton, Peoples, Jones, Hodges, and maybe Brice could stick on a practice squad.

Who do you scout for, you may know a friend of mine.

Sent you a DM. Have to keep some things out of public eye.

[MAD Doctor]

This may have been said but my opinion, we traveled a long ways to play a team who has never beaten us and was a 20 pt dog according to all the lines. We came out flat and got whooped. Time to move on.

Well said. It’s been a wacky season and the time to reflect is when it’s all done- not after a Texas A&M win, or a Texas State loss. For now, it’s get healthy and go 1-0 against Ga. State.

[T-Dog]

Looking back, that Pick Six play made the mountain too high. Chase throws the ball behind the receiver and the tight end was wide open for a first down. It was a quick throw so there was no real pressure. Throw that ball to the tight end and App might win the game. The TE might not score on that play, but it's 1st and Goal. That's a 13-point swing (since TxSt missed the PAT).

[Black Saturday]

Going for the 4th down conversion with Texas State knowing what we were going to run, in enemy territory, after they just scored with ease had a hand in making the mountain too high as well, need to realize the 2018 defense isn't on the field.

[BambooRdApp]

I am sure we can pick apart one play and say "this is it..the reason for a loss". Teams lose games. One particular did not lose the game.
Brice was 40/53 for 495 yards. That's a 75% completion rating.
I head scratched on the 4th down attempt in our own territory as well.
Lack of being able to run the ball.
Lack of D being able to get off the field.

It is a team game and teams lose games. Some mistakes look worse than others due to immediate impact on the scoreboard. Some are like slow cuts to the skin that eventually kill you.
As Coach Clark stated, the team failed in several phases of the game, including coaches (in his presser).
We have a new opportunity on 10/19. Let's go 1-0!!!

[Mjohn1988]

Going for the 4th down conversion with Texas State knowing what we were going to run, in enemy territory, after they just scored with ease had a hand in making the mountain too high as well, need to realize the 2018 defense isn't on the field.

Going for it on 4th down on our side of the field was a bad move. We struggle with short yardage and our D needs the whole field to stop opponents. Did I miss the Monday press conference?

[Stonewall]

Going for the 4th down conversion with Texas State knowing what we were going to run, in enemy territory, after they just scored with ease had a hand in making the mountain too high as well, need to realize the 2018 defense isn't on the field.

Going for it on 4th down on our side of the field was a bad move. We struggle with short yardage and our D needs the whole field to stop opponents. Did I miss the Monday press conference?

The referee moved the ball back about a yard and a half on his spot.Noel appeared to have the first down by a half yard.