Only way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
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I don't know about App but I will make this prediction, the east champion will have 3 losses. I think everyone is still capable of winning the east and the sunbelt championship. When this CFP goes to 12 teams college football if going to be a lot of fun. Look through the conferences and look how many teams can still make a 12 team playoff with the 6 conference champions taken. 80% of the teams can still make it after the middle of the year.
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A lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:09 amOnly way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
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Given what we have seen to date, 7-5 seems reasonable. But, I really believe the fate of our season rests with our performance on Wednesday. I would not rule out 9-3, I think we could do that based on the talent at hand. However, if one were going on what has transpired to date, 7-5 seems plausible. I feel a bit guilty posting that, because I feel like I selling the team short. I suppose its a faith versus reason situation. There is some history to feel that our second half will be better than the first.
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I had posed the question before the season started as to what would happen should we go 8-4. I was viewing that record as a disaster by many. Now that 8-4 or worse is a reality the negativity and gloom has run rampant for weeks. We really took significant roster losses and we were not absolutely equipped to plug and play. Injuries have also been brutal as well. Some really solid and traditionally good programs have tough seasons- look at Oklahoma and Wisconsin to name 2.
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In a nutshell: Wednesday night's game will pretty much set the tune for the rest of the way, extremely importation game. We received a little help this weekend, need to take advantage of what's been given.
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I was thinking 7-5 or 8-4 preseason with all the kids that had been there so long leaving. But after the first few weeks it seemed like there could be some magic with this team we weren't expecting. Then came JMU meltdown and TxSt trip to oblivion shattered the magic season scenario. Now I am on the can we even make a bowl wagon train. It is disappointing after the hope of weeks 1,2 and 3 but I still hold hope we can still run the table from here out and reach their goalsbigdaddyg wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:36 pmI had posed the question before the season started as to what would happen should we go 8-4. I was viewing that record as a disaster by many. Now that 8-4 or worse is a reality the negativity and gloom has run rampant for weeks. We really took significant roster losses and we were not absolutely equipped to plug and play. Injuries have also been brutal as well. Some really solid and traditionally good programs have tough seasons- look at Oklahoma and Wisconsin to name 2.
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Couldn't just answer the question - could you?
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Let's not go crazy with a risky decision here. Rein it in a bit is my advice.
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I’m with ya. It’s crazy to even see the 6-6 being discussed and there’s still folks who won’t acknowledge serious changes needed to be made because this team is far too talented for that. The possibility of it alone is an indictment. Satt revoked a certain coordinator’s responsibilities when he was underperforming years ago, and that same coach hasn’t had that accountability under current leadership.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:41 amA lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:09 amOnly way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
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6-6, miss bowl game and the streak of 1,000-yard rusher ends. I NEVER would have thought any of this after the unc game. I actually thought App would beat UNC to start the season. I was so impressed with our young receivers during the unc game that I thought we could go undefeated in the SBC. Changes on the defensive coaching staff will need to happen.
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This season gives me 2017 vibes. We’ve got a chip on our shoulder now.
We are running the table from here. 10-3 with a bowl win, possible 11-3 if things go our way in the Belt.
We are running the table from here. 10-3 with a bowl win, possible 11-3 if things go our way in the Belt.
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GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:11 pmI’m with ya. It’s crazy to even see the 6-6 being discussed and there’s still folks who won’t acknowledge serious changes needed to be made because this team is far too talented for that. The possibility of it alone is an indictment. Satt revoked a certain coordinator’s responsibilities when he was underperforming years ago, and that same coach hasn’t had that accountability under current leadership.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:41 amA lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:09 amOnly way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
I believe we can rebound but the fact it is even being considered as a real chance to happen is bad. I have wondered what it could be from blame on players, coaches, both of them, or what it could be.
Hennigan brought up interesting comments on the podcast. When it comes to the portal it has helped us some but I wonder if it has hurt with culture? When a player comes in out of high school they are taught the App Way, work hard to earn spot, and playing with toughness and grit but many players come in and start from day one so they don't have to earn their stripes the same way. They perhaps don't have the same chip on their shoulder that players we had before brought in because they were snubbed by P5 schools. Has it possibly hurt us? I don't know but it is something I have wondered.
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I don't really understand what you guys want - No heads are going to roll at 6-6 because we will finish much better than that - Portal --- it is here, either you ignore it or you work with it - What do you want??? - no, a portal guy isn't coming out of high school so he can't be taught the Culture What do you want? - You don't think we would be a better team without Chase? He is the leader and he is a portal guy - Again, what do you guys want?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:13 pmGSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:11 pmI’m with ya. It’s crazy to even see the 6-6 being discussed and there’s still folks who won’t acknowledge serious changes needed to be made because this team is far too talented for that. The possibility of it alone is an indictment. Satt revoked a certain coordinator’s responsibilities when he was underperforming years ago, and that same coach hasn’t had that accountability under current leadership.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:41 amA lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:09 amOnly way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
I believe we can rebound but the fact it is even being considered as a real chance to happen is bad. I have wondered what it could be from blame on players, coaches, both of them, or what it could be.
When it comes to the portal it has helped us some but I wonder if it has hurt with culture? When a player comes in out of high school they are taught the App Way, work hard to earn spot, and playing with toughness and grit but many players come in and start from day one so they don't have to earn their stripes the same way. They perhaps don't have the same chip on their shoulder that players we had before brought in because they were snubbed by P5 schools. Has it possibly hurt us? I don't know but it is something I have wondered.
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Excellent WV! Embrace it, others have used it to their advantage. We can blend it into our culture.WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:22 pmI don't really understand what you guys want - No heads are going to roll at 6-6 because we will finish much better than that - Portal --- it is here, either you ignore it or you work with it - What do you want??? - no, a portal guy isn't coming out of high school so he can't be taught the Culture What do you want? - You don't think we would be a better team without Chase? He is the leader and he is a portal guy - Again, what do you guys want?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:13 pmGSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:11 pmI’m with ya. It’s crazy to even see the 6-6 being discussed and there’s still folks who won’t acknowledge serious changes needed to be made because this team is far too talented for that. The possibility of it alone is an indictment. Satt revoked a certain coordinator’s responsibilities when he was underperforming years ago, and that same coach hasn’t had that accountability under current leadership.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:41 amA lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:09 am
Only way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
I believe we can rebound but the fact it is even being considered as a real chance to happen is bad. I have wondered what it could be from blame on players, coaches, both of them, or what it could be.
When it comes to the portal it has helped us some but I wonder if it has hurt with culture? When a player comes in out of high school they are taught the App Way, work hard to earn spot, and playing with toughness and grit but many players come in and start from day one so they don't have to earn their stripes the same way. They perhaps don't have the same chip on their shoulder that players we had before brought in because they were snubbed by P5 schools. Has it possibly hurt us? I don't know but it is something I have wondered.
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After watching Marshall yesterday, they ain’t scary. If they play like that against us, we should win, unless we play like we did at Texas State. Which Appalachian team will show up? The one with the sandpaper, or the one bending over to be ….?
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All they want is for you to hear what they have to say and agree with them, the problem is they just want to be miserable pulling for the mountaineers. When we win every game of the season and win every game in the FBS Playoffs and are crowned National Champions, those same people will say, "Yeah that was great, but what about next season? I doubt we win a single game."WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:22 pmI don't really understand what you guys want - No heads are going to roll at 6-6 because we will finish much better than that - Portal --- it is here, either you ignore it or you work with it - What do you want??? - no, a portal guy isn't coming out of high school so he can't be taught the Culture What do you want? - You don't think we would be a better team without Chase? He is the leader and he is a portal guy - Again, what do you guys want?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:13 pmGSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:11 pmI’m with ya. It’s crazy to even see the 6-6 being discussed and there’s still folks who won’t acknowledge serious changes needed to be made because this team is far too talented for that. The possibility of it alone is an indictment. Satt revoked a certain coordinator’s responsibilities when he was underperforming years ago, and that same coach hasn’t had that accountability under current leadership.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:41 amA lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:09 am
Only way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
I believe we can rebound but the fact it is even being considered as a real chance to happen is bad. I have wondered what it could be from blame on players, coaches, both of them, or what it could be.
When it comes to the portal it has helped us some but I wonder if it has hurt with culture? When a player comes in out of high school they are taught the App Way, work hard to earn spot, and playing with toughness and grit but many players come in and start from day one so they don't have to earn their stripes the same way. They perhaps don't have the same chip on their shoulder that players we had before brought in because they were snubbed by P5 schools. Has it possibly hurt us? I don't know but it is something I have wondered.
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I don't think we go 6-6 either but there is a chance. We had many on here who talked like we were going 13-1 after A&M. I said 8-4 coming in to the season and still stick to that despite losing a couple games I thought we would win. Marshall is not as scary as they appeared to be and neither is Coastal. We could go 3-3 or easily go 6-0 to finish the season. It all starts on Wednesday.WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:22 pmI don't really understand what you guys want - No heads are going to roll at 6-6 because we will finish much better than that - Portal --- it is here, either you ignore it or you work with it - What do you want??? - no, a portal guy isn't coming out of high school so he can't be taught the Culture What do you want? - You don't think we would be a better team without Chase? He is the leader and he is a portal guy - Again, what do you guys want?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:13 pmGSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:11 pmI’m with ya. It’s crazy to even see the 6-6 being discussed and there’s still folks who won’t acknowledge serious changes needed to be made because this team is far too talented for that. The possibility of it alone is an indictment. Satt revoked a certain coordinator’s responsibilities when he was underperforming years ago, and that same coach hasn’t had that accountability under current leadership.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:41 amA lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:09 am
Only way to salvage the season. The possibility of 6-6 with the roster should make some heads role.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
I believe we can rebound but the fact it is even being considered as a real chance to happen is bad. I have wondered what it could be from blame on players, coaches, both of them, or what it could be.
When it comes to the portal it has helped us some but I wonder if it has hurt with culture? When a player comes in out of high school they are taught the App Way, work hard to earn spot, and playing with toughness and grit but many players come in and start from day one so they don't have to earn their stripes the same way. They perhaps don't have the same chip on their shoulder that players we had before brought in because they were snubbed by P5 schools. Has it possibly hurt us? I don't know but it is something I have wondered.
Didn't say they can't be taught the culture but listen to the podcast where Hennigan talked about this stuff. He felt we had players who were in this for themselves and not all in on the App State Way and I think the fact we laid down and let Texas State just bully us up front perhaps exposed some attitudes that need correcting.
Nobody said we should avoid the portal completely. I said use high school recruiting as much as possible but use the portal to fill gaps here and there. Chase was an absolute need because we did not have a quality QB on the roster.
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Maybe I should have mentioned why I brought it up but I heard Hennigan bring up the culture thing and thought it was interesting so I asked it on here. I believe we can rebound and go 9-3 or 8-4 but we definitely can't have a repeat of San Marcos. Nobody said we would lose every game but this league is brutal and it would be very impressive if we somehow even go 5-1, let alone 6-0, to close the year. With the exception of Robert Morris this is a very difficult 6 game stretch.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:13 pmAll they want is for you to hear what they have to say and agree with them, the problem is they just want to be miserable pulling for the mountaineers. When we win every game of the season and win every game in the FBS Playoffs and are crowned National Champions, those same people will say, "Yeah that was great, but what about next season? I doubt we win a single game."WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:22 pmI don't really understand what you guys want - No heads are going to roll at 6-6 because we will finish much better than that - Portal --- it is here, either you ignore it or you work with it - What do you want??? - no, a portal guy isn't coming out of high school so he can't be taught the Culture What do you want? - You don't think we would be a better team without Chase? He is the leader and he is a portal guy - Again, what do you guys want?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:13 pmGSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:11 pmI’m with ya. It’s crazy to even see the 6-6 being discussed and there’s still folks who won’t acknowledge serious changes needed to be made because this team is far too talented for that. The possibility of it alone is an indictment. Satt revoked a certain coordinator’s responsibilities when he was underperforming years ago, and that same coach hasn’t had that accountability under current leadership.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:41 am
A lot of heads better roll if we go 6-6. Could you imagine us not getting in a bowl game? I believe we go 7-5 or 8-4 though. I just can't see this team falling apart completely but I would be shocked if we make it 9-3. If Shawn turns it around and did that then I think we would win the SBC title. If we lose to GSU on Wednesday we then the only thing we can play for is a bowl win.
It is crazy how we had many on here debating us being highest ranked and NY6 possibility but now many on here are worried about even going to a bowl game. I wish the polls would not start until the last week of October and media members would stop with bowl projections so early. It is like someone posting a 2024 Mock Draft this week. That stuff is a huge waste of time so early.
I believe we can rebound but the fact it is even being considered as a real chance to happen is bad. I have wondered what it could be from blame on players, coaches, both of them, or what it could be.
When it comes to the portal it has helped us some but I wonder if it has hurt with culture? When a player comes in out of high school they are taught the App Way, work hard to earn spot, and playing with toughness and grit but many players come in and start from day one so they don't have to earn their stripes the same way. They perhaps don't have the same chip on their shoulder that players we had before brought in because they were snubbed by P5 schools. Has it possibly hurt us? I don't know but it is something I have wondered.