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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:36 am

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Be interested to see what happens if WVU opens up.
I was wondering if they were gonna go looking at Marshall’s coach earlier in the year, but they then proceeded to put up a few stinkers in a row.

The JMU coach is closer to there as well, and his dad coached there. I think his father is actually the last WVU coach with a losing record overall so he may want go the way of the redemption arc.

While Clark is from WV I wonder how much of that matters since he didn’t play or work there.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by mike87 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:45 am

GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:36 am
Tru2ASU wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:42 am
Be interested to see what happens if WVU opens up.
I was wondering if they were gonna go looking at Marshall’s coach earlier in the year, but they then proceeded to put up a few stinkers in a row.

The JMU coach is closer to there as well, and his dad coached there. I think his father is actually the last WVU coach with a losing record overall so he may want go the way of the redemption arc.

While Clark is from WV I wonder how much of that matters since he didn’t play or work there.
They like them family members in WV. Uncle daddy say's Cignetti. :lol:

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:34 am

GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:36 am
Tru2ASU wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:42 am
Be interested to see what happens if WVU opens up.
I was wondering if they were gonna go looking at Marshall’s coach earlier in the year, but they then proceeded to put up a few stinkers in a row.

The JMU coach is closer to there as well, and his dad coached there. I think his father is actually the last WVU coach with a losing record overall so he may want go the way of the redemption arc.

While Clark is from WV I wonder how much of that matters since he didn’t play or work there.
Yes, that is interesting - Yes Cignetti's Dad coached there and I do believe he and his brother (Pitt OC) played for WVU - I honestly don't see Coach Clark heading that way - Cignetti won't be at JMU long, he has had success wherever he has been - when he took over Elon they had only won 4 conference games total in several seasons - He was there 2 years and took them to the FCS playoffs both years. He was also on Coach Saban's staff at Alabama for 6 years.
Personally, I would love to see him go to WVU and as most know Neal Brown has been underwhelming ---
Of course, all WVU fans have a dream of Nick coming back home and winning a national championship - pipe dream, I know

They do have Graham Harrell as their OC and he will be a P5 head coach soon
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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by HighlandsApp » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:56 am

I can't imagine West Virginia will hire another Sun Belt coach.... And it would be surprising if they hired any coach even from the G5 have unless they got somebody from the AAC and I don't know who that would be unless they thought Mike Houston was worthy.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:28 am

I guess the silver lining of our struggles this year is that *hopefully* we can maintain some coaching consistency to next season. I want to see how the recruiting and development is before another extension. Clark is the right guy for the job though IMO.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by yosef69 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:35 am

Seattleapp wrote:
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yosef69 wrote:
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This a joke?
Who do you want? Take a stance! Stop simply being a troll. Go on record who you think App should hire
I want Clark but there’s literally no reason to extend him at this moment.

The person I don’t want is DJ, to be clear.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:38 am

There won't be another extension until we win the SBC.When we do ,I expect it.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by Seattleapp » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:03 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:35 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:10 am
yosef69 wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:05 am
This a joke?
Who do you want? Take a stance! Stop simply being a troll. Go on record who you think App should hire
I want Clark but there’s literally no reason to extend him at this moment.

The person I don’t want is DJ, to be clear.
That’s fair

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:13 pm

Seattle, do you really not see legitimate questions about the direction of the program? We have one win, and it took a miracle, over a team wirh a winning record.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:21 pm

I know the question wasn't addressed to me but I think it is simply too early to conclude regarding the "direction" of the team. Yes, the losses this year have been frustrating and concerning but we are still in the hunt for a conference championship. We don't play in a vacuum. Other programs improve and there are factors we can't control. If we win out, or even finish with 8 wins in the regular season, I would say Clark responded well to adversity. I wouldn't be thrilled but I wouldn't be overly concerned. If that level continues, I would probably be concerned

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:40 pm

Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:21 pm
I know the question wasn't addressed to me but I think it is simply too early to conclude regarding the "direction" of the team. Yes, the losses this year have been frustrating and concerning but we are still in the hunt for a conference championship. We don't play in a vacuum. Other programs improve and there are factors we can't control. If we win out, or even finish with 8 wins in the regular season, I would say Clark responded well to adversity. I wouldn't be thrilled but I wouldn't be overly concerned. If that level continues, I would probably be concerned
I really hope you're right. But next year may be setting up to be not good.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by AppSt12 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:46 pm

Legit question here...as some of you are more in the know than me. Is it just me or has coach clark done literally 0 recruiting. He has been here 3 years and i can only think of like 2 players that ever play that he recuited.

We have relied on transfers to fill gaps...but all these guys are satt and drink recruits. I have been alone (in my group of friends) in saying shawn clark has done a horrible job. Ive felt this way since his first season...obviously results have slumped and he was handed the keys to a cadillac....but someone tell me im wrong about the recruiting thing. Do we have good young players that we are hiding for some reason?

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:34 pm

AppSt12 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:46 pm
Legit question here...as some of you are more in the know than me. Is it just me or has coach clark done literally 0 recruiting. He has been here 3 years and i can only think of like 2 players that ever play that he recuited.

We have relied on transfers to fill gaps...but all these guys are satt and drink recruits. I have been alone (in my group of friends) in saying shawn clark has done a horrible job. Ive felt this way since his first season...obviously results have slumped and he was handed the keys to a cadillac....but someone tell me im wrong about the recruiting thing. Do we have good young players that we are hiding for some reason?
He’s a diamond in the rough guy. Find the underdog, which worked in socon and young sun belt. We gotta find some dawgs now to compete. He’s found a couple that are currently producing. Johnson, spellman, white and hopper will carry the D. but yea, we gotta get bigger and faster for sure.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:12 am

311neers wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:34 pm
AppSt12 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:46 pm
Legit question here...as some of you are more in the know than me. Is it just me or has coach clark done literally 0 recruiting. He has been here 3 years and i can only think of like 2 players that ever play that he recuited.

We have relied on transfers to fill gaps...but all these guys are satt and drink recruits. I have been alone (in my group of friends) in saying shawn clark has done a horrible job. Ive felt this way since his first season...obviously results have slumped and he was handed the keys to a cadillac....but someone tell me im wrong about the recruiting thing. Do we have good young players that we are hiding for some reason?
He’s a diamond in the rough guy. Find the underdog, which worked in socon and young sun belt. We gotta find some dawgs now to compete. He’s found a couple that are currently producing. Johnson, spellman, white and hopper will carry the D. but yea, we gotta get bigger and faster for sure.
If I have years right
2020 COVID year . Could not get recruits up to Boone in person. IMO makes a difference.for our recruiting compared to some places.
2921 now 2022 FR class. In addition to above. On offense, Stroman (wr), Roberts (RB) and the young QB (berger sp? Is supposed to be good from what I understand)...to name a few on offense.
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Unread post by GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:29 am

This next class of ours is #1 in the SBC too

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by AppDub » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:20 am

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:40 pm
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:21 pm
I know the question wasn't addressed to me but I think it is simply too early to conclude regarding the "direction" of the team. Yes, the losses this year have been frustrating and concerning but we are still in the hunt for a conference championship. We don't play in a vacuum. Other programs improve and there are factors we can't control. If we win out, or even finish with 8 wins in the regular season, I would say Clark responded well to adversity. I wouldn't be thrilled but I wouldn't be overly concerned. If that level continues, I would probably be concerned
I really hope you're right. But next year may be setting up to be not good.
Or it could be setting up to be really good. No one knows until it gets here.

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Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:38 am

Why not good? We will still have experienced RBs, more experienced WRs, more experienced DBs, etc.
Hopefully the play by young guys pay dividends next year.
This is my personal opinion. The only player on defense (that has eligiblity left), other than Hampton, should come back. I do not see anyone else getting drafted.
Graduations are part of football and young guys step. Hopefully young guys in the trenches step up on both sides of the ball.
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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:01 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:38 am
Why not good? We will still have experienced RBs, more experienced WRs, more experienced DBs, etc.
Hopefully the play by young guys pay dividends next year.
This is my personal opinion. The only player on defense (that has eligiblity left), other than Hampton, should come back. I do not see anyone else getting drafted.
Graduations are part of football and young guys step. Hopefully young guys in the trenches step up on both sides of the ball.
I tend to agree with you here. Unless we have a mass exodus of players we still have a pretty good running back and receiver group. I think we potentially bring back the offensive line as well. I'm excited about our QB prospects- we should be fine there. Hopefully we give meaningful snaps to the backup this Saturday (let him throw the ball). We still have depth that returns at linebacker and d back. Hopper should be ready to step in next year on the d line. I suspect we bring in a few transfers or JUCO guys to fill some slots. Anything is certainly possible but I think the roster is still good.

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Re: Contract Extension For Clark

Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 am

AppSt12 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:46 pm
Legit question here...as some of you are more in the know than me. Is it just me or has coach clark done literally 0 recruiting. He has been here 3 years and i can only think of like 2 players that ever play that he recuited.

We have relied on transfers to fill gaps...but all these guys are satt and drink recruits. I have been alone (in my group of friends) in saying shawn clark has done a horrible job. Ive felt this way since his first season...obviously results have slumped and he was handed the keys to a cadillac....but someone tell me im wrong about the recruiting thing. Do we have good young players that we are hiding for some reason?
Plenty of Clarks recruits are getting playing time, but they're very young. Also, don't forget the impact the extra year from Covid is having to extend the careers for older guys. Here's a breakdown by class.

Class of 2022: Ethan Johnson, Marcus Clark, Omari Philyaw, Donovan Spellman and Kanye Roberts

Class of 2021: Dalton Stroman, Troy Everett, Deshawn McKnight, MIchael Hughes, KaRon White, Caden Sullivan, Kyle Arnholt, Jaquan Lowman, Trevor Moffitt, Jordan Favors, Jayden Ramsey and David Larkins

Class of 2020: Nate Noel, Damion Daley, Ronald Clarke, Kevon Haigler, Jalen McLeod, Christan Horn, Eli Wilson, DeAndre Dingle-Prince, Anderson Castle and Stephen Passeggiata.

We have 6 starters from the portal (two from 2021 and four from 2022) which is not that many compared to many teams. If you go to the portal you want instant impact from them.

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Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:51 am

JTApps1 wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 am
AppSt12 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:46 pm
Legit question here...as some of you are more in the know than me. Is it just me or has coach clark done literally 0 recruiting. He has been here 3 years and i can only think of like 2 players that ever play that he recuited.

We have relied on transfers to fill gaps...but all these guys are satt and drink recruits. I have been alone (in my group of friends) in saying shawn clark has done a horrible job. Ive felt this way since his first season...obviously results have slumped and he was handed the keys to a cadillac....but someone tell me im wrong about the recruiting thing. Do we have good young players that we are hiding for some reason?
Plenty of Clarks recruits are getting playing time, but they're very young. Also, don't forget the impact the extra year from Covid is having to extend the careers for older guys. Here's a breakdown by class.

Class of 2022: Ethan Johnson, Marcus Clark, Omari Philyaw, Donovan Spellman and Kanye Roberts

Class of 2021: Dalton Stroman, Troy Everett, Deshawn McKnight, MIchael Hughes, KaRon White, Caden Sullivan, Kyle Arnholt, Jaquan Lowman, Trevor Moffitt, Jordan Favors, Jayden Ramsey and David Larkins

Class of 2020: Nate Noel, Damion Daley, Ronald Clarke, Kevon Haigler, Jalen McLeod, Christan Horn, Eli Wilson, DeAndre Dingle-Prince, Anderson Castle and Stephen Passeggiata.

We have 6 starters from the portal (two from 2021 and four from 2022) which is not that many compared to many teams. If you go to the portal you want instant impact from them.
Good analysis.
I also find it interesting that people discount a coach when they have to go to portal. I get it if a complete roster overhaul like Tx. St, etc. It seems we have used portal to plug holes. Like any recruiting season, App. St. probably missed out on some portal guys they wanted... whether the kid felt comfortable somewhere else or the university would not agree to transfer credits, etc You have to recruit those guys as well. The recruiting period may be shorter but guys have to get comfortable with coaches, etc. Chase Brice has been a pretty good recruit. The backup QB from portal appears to be good with limited playing experience. I am sure there are others.
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