Coastal Discussion

[AtlAppMan]

What exactly has been our slow start issue? It's become a disturbing trend now.

Some on this board say you are just complaining and being negative to point out that for 3 games, and BTW we just finished our 8th game of season, that there is a problem with slow starts. Even though our most recent slow start on offense was against a team that should be considerably worse than our practice squad. Don’t worry be happy, my rose colored glasses make everything just fine.

[AppInDC]

I just don't see how APP can honestly be favored, given the last month.

It doesn't mean everything but App has played a tougher schedule than Coastal (#105 vs #129 on ESPN FPI and #114 vs #121 on Sagarin) and has a better overall scoring margin (+102 vs +37).

[appgrad95&97]

One (and it took a miracle) win over a team with a winning record.

[bigdaddyg]

I just don't see how APP can honestly be favored, given the last month.

It doesn't mean everything but App has played a tougher schedule than Coastal (#105 vs #129 on ESPN FPI and #114 vs #121 on Sagarin) and has a better overall scoring margin (+102 vs +37).

So have the 105th rated schedule out of what 132 teams? Geez

Scoring margin greatly skewed given the Citadel and Bob Morris clashes

[AppInDC]

I just don't see how APP can honestly be favored, given the last month.

It doesn't mean everything but App has played a tougher schedule than Coastal (#105 vs #129 on ESPN FPI and #114 vs #121 on Sagarin) and has a better overall scoring margin (+102 vs +37).

So have the 105th rated schedule out of what 132 teams? Geez

Scoring margin greatly skewed given the Citadel and Bob Morris clashes

It's not super strong but it's also by rank currently the 3rd toughest schedule for App since moving up to FBS (2020 was #91 and #2021 was #81). And that will likely improve some given the teams we play this month and potentially a conference title/bowl.

Yes the RMU and Citadel games were laughers but Coastal had a chance to rack up their margin against an FCS opponent but only won by 4.

[hapapp]

I just don't see how APP can honestly be favored, given the last month.

It doesn't mean everything but App has played a tougher schedule than Coastal (#105 vs #129 on ESPN FPI and #114 vs #121 on Sagarin) and has a better overall scoring margin (+102 vs +37).

So have the 105th rated schedule out of what 132 teams? Geez

Scoring margin greatly skewed given the Citadel and Bob Morris clashes

It's not super strong but it's also by rank currently the 3rd toughest schedule for App since moving up to FBS (2020 was #91 and #2021 was #81). And that will likely improve some given the teams we play this month and potentially a conference title/bowl.

Yes the RMU and Citadel games were laughers but Coastal had a chance to rack up their margin against an FCS opponent but only won by 4.

True, but the team that Coastal beat, defeated RMU 48-0 and lost to #23 Liberty by 1 point.

[Yosefus]

What exactly has been our slow start issue? It's become a disturbing trend now.

Some on this board say you are just complaining and being negative to point out that for 3 games, and BTW we just finished our 8th game of season, that there is a problem with slow starts. Even though our most recent slow start on offense was against a team that should be considerably worse than our practice squad. Don’t worry be happy, my rose colored glasses make everything just fine.

Not trying to be negative but our MO all the way back to the Satterfield Era we were notorious for giving up at least 7 before figuring things out on D.
I expect anything except us blowing them out, we get flat beat or it's a dog fight just like last year. Just going off Stat line we do have a slight favor on points allowed and if our passing game clicks we will be able to score good points. If we can pound it out on the run game early will help in the 4th quarter.

[WASU 93]

What exactly has been our slow start issue? It's become a disturbing trend now.

Some on this board say you are just complaining and being negative to point out that for 3 games, and BTW we just finished our 8th game of season, that there is a problem with slow starts. Even though our most recent slow start on offense was against a team that should be considerably worse than our practice squad. Don’t worry be happy, my rose colored glasses make everything just fine.

Not trying to be negative but our MO all the way back to the Satterfield Era we were notorious for giving up at least 7 before figuring things out on D.
I expect anything except us blowing them out, we get flat beat or it's a dog fight just like last year. Just going off Stat line we do have a slight favor on points allowed and if our passing game clicks we will be able to score good points. If we can pound it out on the run game early will help in the 4th quarter.

That's a true statement. We often give up an early TD against the other teams scripted plays and then start making adjustments and being more effective on D. (And that's the years when we are a Top Ranked Defensive Unit).
Unless our script never changes, the offensive woes early are hard to understand.
We scored on the first three possessions against Carolina (and missed a FG after a penalty on the 4th)
Played through a scoreless first quarter against Texas A&M
scored first possession against Troy
scored on the 2nd/3rd/4th/and 5th possessions against JMU
But, then it took until the final minutes of the first half to score at all vs. Texas State and Georgia State

It seems like we are unable to hit any BIG plays early and also lack the consistency to march down the field and string together first downs.

Robert Morris struggled, but they did tackle pretty well defensively and seemed intent to stop Peoples at all costs.

Pounding with the run game is not really working early. We need to actually hit a wheel route to Peoples or maybe run a toss to the edge (vs. a handoff), because teams are stopping the power running game early and often. Our run game struggles to get to the second level in the 1st Quarter. (and a jet sweep would never hurt my feelings)

[T-Dog]

FYI, if you're going, it's Coastal's black out game, so I'd encourage App people to wear gold.

[hapapp]

A loss for us on Thursday would almost eliminate us from contention for the divisional crown. Coastal would be 5-1 and hold the tiebreaker. Even if we were to win out the rest of the way we would give them the title. Even if they lose their last two at 5-3 they would hold the breaker over everyone but ODU. The only way for us would be if we win out and ODU's only loss is to us. We would all finish 5-3. Not sure what the tie breaker would be. I believe it goes next to record versus divisional foes. That would eliminate ODU as they would have three divisional losses. If GS finished 5-3 with a loss to us, they would have three divisional losses.

The irony would be if we lose, our biggest fans going forward would be Coastal.

[AppInDC]

I just don't see how APP can honestly be favored, given the last month.

It doesn't mean everything but App has played a tougher schedule than Coastal (#105 vs #129 on ESPN FPI and #114 vs #121 on Sagarin) and has a better overall scoring margin (+102 vs +37).

So have the 105th rated schedule out of what 132 teams? Geez

Scoring margin greatly skewed given the Citadel and Bob Morris clashes

It's not super strong but it's also by rank currently the 3rd toughest schedule for App since moving up to FBS (2020 was #91 and #2021 was #81). And that will likely improve some given the teams we play this month and potentially a conference title/bowl.

Yes the RMU and Citadel games were laughers but Coastal had a chance to rack up their margin against an FCS opponent but only won by 4.

True, but the team that Coastal beat, defeated RMU 48-0 and lost to #23 Liberty by 1 point.

All this is true. It's also true that App has +1 scoring margin against Power 5 teams this season while we sadly won't have any evidence what Coastal can do until later in November against UVA.The win against Texas A&M was great since they were top 10 at the time although now it looks like an uphill battle for Jimbo to finish .500. But App only lost by 2 to Carolina who may be the only team that can stop Clemson from the ACC title.

I think the point is everybody has good and bad moments to point to and that's why you can't cherry pick and you have to evaluate the entire body of work. That's why right now the books have App as a slight favorite over Coastal even on the road. I certainly hope they're correct.

[hapapp]

It doesn't mean everything but App has played a tougher schedule than Coastal (#105 vs #129 on ESPN FPI and #114 vs #121 on Sagarin) and has a better overall scoring margin (+102 vs +37).

So have the 105th rated schedule out of what 132 teams? Geez

Scoring margin greatly skewed given the Citadel and Bob Morris clashes

It's not super strong but it's also by rank currently the 3rd toughest schedule for App since moving up to FBS (2020 was #91 and #2021 was #81). And that will likely improve some given the teams we play this month and potentially a conference title/bowl.

Yes the RMU and Citadel games were laughers but Coastal had a chance to rack up their margin against an FCS opponent but only won by 4.

True, but the team that Coastal beat, defeated RMU 48-0 and lost to #23 Liberty by 1 point.

All this is true. It's also true that App has +1 scoring margin against Power 5 teams this season while we sadly won't have any evidence what Coastal can do until later in November against UVA.The win against Texas A&M was great since they were top 10 at the time although now it looks like an uphill battle for Jimbo to finish .500. But App only lost by 2 to Carolina who may be the only team that can stop Clemson from the ACC title.

I think the point is everybody has good and bad moments to point to and that's why you can't cherry pick and you have to evaluate the entire body of work. That's why right now the books have App as a slight favorite over Coastal even on the road. I certainly hope they're correct.

My point was that the quality of their FCS opponent was certainly better than either of ours.
We clearly have faced a tougher schedule than they have. The team that knocked them off, ODU, have lost their two games since. We have one common opponent, with both beating Georgia State. Which I think says on paper this game is a tossup.

[Black Saturday]

Coastal came out and hit Marshall hard for 3 TDs. Not sure Coastal had any turnovers against Marshall, we'll need for them to have some in order to win. They are due.

Hope we are focused and don't let them bait us into penalties retaliating to their trash talk too.

Vegas came out Coastal -1, it's the bettors that have jumped on APP pushing it too APP-2.5, So the line has had a big swing of 3.5 points. Maybe the gamblers are right this time.

[bigdaddyg]

Perhaps we don't need to run our predetermined run off right guard on the first 2 plays then the 30 yard out pass on 3rd and 11 to start the game. Maybe switch it up with a jet sweep or play action to a tight end. I can see the mullets being extremely fired up and making attempts to bait our offensive line (in particular) into dumb personal fouls. A nice sustained scoring drive to open the game would be key. We absolutely need to bring some extra rushers and put some pressure on the QB. If he is allowed to run around he could chew us up.

[Saint3333]

A loss this weekend and the east is CCU's to lose. I think we can lose one more and win the east it just can't be this one.

[AppState89]

They will be ready this week for CCU!!!

[Seattleapp]

I just don't see how APP can honestly be favored, given the last month.

Vegas knows

We've covered twice?

I just meant Vegas is remarkable in how accurate they are setting lines

[AppFan11]

CC has the league’s worst pass defense giving up 273 yds per game…. we have the league’s best pass defense giving up 179… Marshall had 302 yds in air but two turnovers…. plus 11 penalties. 1-0 this week.

[app97]

CC has the league’s worst pass defense giving up 273 yds per game…. we have the league’s best pass defense giving up 179… Marshall had 302 yds in air but two turnovers…. plus 11 penalties. 1-0 this week.

Had no idea we had the best pass defense in the league…seems like the weakest secondary we’ve had in a while, but maybe I’m focusing too much on missed tackles and not enough on pass coverage.

[311neers]

Hate Monday morning meetings when a client asks for tours Thursday afternoon to look at commercial properties. Looks like I'll be missing the App at Coastal game. Was planning on driving up around 2pm from Charleston but not now!! Ugh. Don't these people know it's college football season! Thursdays are essentially the weekend down here!