Throw out some namesNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
It's time guys...Clark must go
-
- Posts: 1723
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:00 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 4482 times
- Been thanked: 1270 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
- ah59396
- Posts: 2167
- Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:28 pm
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 1399 times
- Been thanked: 1783 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
You should let the 50+ FBS programs struggling right now let them know you can replace their AD!NoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
YNWA
-
- Posts: 10689
- Joined: Mon Oct 14, 2002 11:22 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 1014 times
- Been thanked: 1177 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
We got what we deserved tonight and the season - coaching bone-headedness. He hasn't been the right hire so far. Three years and getting worse.
We are in for a worse record next year and thereafter. We came out hot in September and have nose-dived since the half at JMU, where the hell did our play calling and staying ahead of opposing defenses by our OC go? Slayer of bad teams we have been.
Before the season began, I figured we'd be 9-3ish, losses to UNC and A&M and maybe to Marshall of Coastal being that they were road games. Looking back, we could have been 3-9 if we didn't play Citadel and Robert Morris. This discussion just isn't where we should be as a program based on our success over the last 40 years.
If he can't be replaced for financial reasons, somebody better take Clark by the hand and portal about 20-25 players ready to contribute at all positions and ready to make a difference. He can get more talented players that wouldn't give APP a look in the homegrown process.
Our defense has been terrible the whole year and looks like we must take Ex-Lax before each game, nothing that I can see in recruiting of this next class or any in the past to make a difference for several years. Our O line? eeesh? QB ummmm? RBs ok, Receivers ok.
The overall financial impact of losing football seasons for the next few years the for the school and the relationship of it to the econmics of the High Country needs to be considered by our decision makers versus the impact of being penny-wise and pound foolish in retaining Clark and continuing in reverse.
We are in for a worse record next year and thereafter. We came out hot in September and have nose-dived since the half at JMU, where the hell did our play calling and staying ahead of opposing defenses by our OC go? Slayer of bad teams we have been.
Before the season began, I figured we'd be 9-3ish, losses to UNC and A&M and maybe to Marshall of Coastal being that they were road games. Looking back, we could have been 3-9 if we didn't play Citadel and Robert Morris. This discussion just isn't where we should be as a program based on our success over the last 40 years.
If he can't be replaced for financial reasons, somebody better take Clark by the hand and portal about 20-25 players ready to contribute at all positions and ready to make a difference. He can get more talented players that wouldn't give APP a look in the homegrown process.
Our defense has been terrible the whole year and looks like we must take Ex-Lax before each game, nothing that I can see in recruiting of this next class or any in the past to make a difference for several years. Our O line? eeesh? QB ummmm? RBs ok, Receivers ok.
The overall financial impact of losing football seasons for the next few years the for the school and the relationship of it to the econmics of the High Country needs to be considered by our decision makers versus the impact of being penny-wise and pound foolish in retaining Clark and continuing in reverse.
BLACK SATURDAY
- ah59396
- Posts: 2167
- Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:28 pm
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 1399 times
- Been thanked: 1783 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Haven’t you heard? There are tons! Just fire Clark and hire someone! It surely can’t fail!Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:29 pmThrow out some namesNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
YNWA
- NattyBumppo'sRevenge
- Posts: 3876
- Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:55 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Location: Charlotte, NC
- Has thanked: 2073 times
- Been thanked: 2145 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
If true that players are gonna hit the portal in droves, got to make the decision sooner than later to see if you can get someone in that can recruit the players on our roster back. If players don’t indicate they are leaving, I’m willing to give him one more year, but there do need to be some changes on the staff.
- AppStateMtneer
- Posts: 497
- Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:46 pm
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 99 times
- Been thanked: 234 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
If Dale Jones truly wants App to be successful he would retire and forgo any buyout to fire him… with that being said… what is his buyout ?
-
- Posts: 1723
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:00 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 4482 times
- Been thanked: 1270 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
I’m confused I thought Clark was a playersNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:34 pmIf true that players are gonna hit the portal in droves, got to make the decision sooner than later to see if you can get someone in that can recruit the players on our roster back. If players don’t indicate they are leaving, I’m willing to give him one more year, but there do need to be some changes on the staff.
Coach. Which is is?
-
- Posts: 1723
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:00 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 4482 times
- Been thanked: 1270 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Tell me what DC would succeed with that defense that was limping onto the field? Honestly question. How would you scheme that defenseAppStateMtneer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:34 pmIf Dale Jones truly wants App to be successful he would retire and forgo any buyout to fire him… with that being said… what is his buyout ?
-
- Posts: 2240
- Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 10:10 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 425 times
- Been thanked: 1755 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
We agree on a lot of things so I sincerely want to know what you’re seeing that makes you think we’re going to even be an OK team under Coach Clark. I’m seeing a 3 year downward spiral that ended with us basically going from first to worst in the Belt.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:58 pmI know this isn’t the popular opinion as we’ve been decimated by injuries this year. Yea I know who cares. That doesn’t matter right? But if we are measured on wins and losses, our kicker doesn’t choke we are winning and going bowling. I’m prepared for the onslaught of insults I’m sure will he directed my way. But to fire Clark is sec level idiocy
- NattyBumppo'sRevenge
- Posts: 3876
- Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:55 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Location: Charlotte, NC
- Has thanked: 2073 times
- Been thanked: 2145 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
I know, same here.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:35 pmI’m confused I thought Clark was a playersNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:34 pmIf true that players are gonna hit the portal in droves, got to make the decision sooner than later to see if you can get someone in that can recruit the players on our roster back. If players don’t indicate they are leaving, I’m willing to give him one more year, but there do need to be some changes on the staff.
Coach. Which is is?
- AppStateMtneer
- Posts: 497
- Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:46 pm
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 99 times
- Been thanked: 234 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
I shouldnt be able to announce what we are about to line up in and what we are going to do … or not do… and then see it happen… if I can do it then no wonder the other teams coaches have success….Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:36 pmTell me what DC would succeed with that defense that was limping onto the field? Honestly question. How would you scheme that defenseAppStateMtneer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:34 pmIf Dale Jones truly wants App to be successful he would retire and forgo any buyout to fire him… with that being said… what is his buyout ?
-
- Posts: 2240
- Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 10:10 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 425 times
- Been thanked: 1755 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
D was really bad this year but Dale was given a pretty tuff situation. Either through injury or youth we basically lack talent across the board on defense.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:36 pmTell me what DC would succeed with that defense that was limping onto the field? Honestly question. How would you scheme that defenseAppStateMtneer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:34 pmIf Dale Jones truly wants App to be successful he would retire and forgo any buyout to fire him… with that being said… what is his buyout ?
-
- Posts: 1396
- Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:07 pm
- School: Appalachian State
- Location: Boone
- Has thanked: 586 times
- Been thanked: 515 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
My point is simple, but perhaps naive. My post is absolute truth - for the same reason there are not only 2 people worthy of leading the free world every 4 years. There are tens of thousands of individuals that could do a better job than anyone you place on a pedestal.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:29 pmThrow out some namesNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
We are all just people.
-
- Posts: 5832
- Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:08 pm
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 15 times
- Been thanked: 2474 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
The only exaggeration I no longer buy is the Ferrari reference. We have some good players but for crying out loud we are not that loaded anymore. We took a bunch of key losses from our defense last year and if I'm not mistaken 3 of our 4 main linebackers are not playing anymore. We have slow ass defensive backs who chase after receivers and then either grab them or throw their hands up hoping the ball doesn't get caught. What ever happened to swivel hips with those guys? Play 10 yards off and on a 3rd and 10 try to keep the other guys at a 9 yard gain. Our lateral pursuit defense isn't there and the 3 man line gets no pressure (except a little bit tonight at the end of the game).
-
- Posts: 1723
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:00 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 4482 times
- Been thanked: 1270 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
It’s been tough to watch. I guess I’m looking at personnel. Our defense looked small and slow all season. We replaced a lot of talent and the talent we brought back couldnt stay healthy. I have hated these losses as much as anyone in this board as I’m investedMjohn1988 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:37 pmWe agree on a lot of things so I sincerely want to know what you’re seeing that makes you think we’re going to even be an OK team under Coach Clark. I’m seeing a 3 year downward spiral that ended with us basically going from first to worst in the Belt.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:58 pmI know this isn’t the popular opinion as we’ve been decimated by injuries this year. Yea I know who cares. That doesn’t matter right? But if we are measured on wins and losses, our kicker doesn’t choke we are winning and going bowling. I’m prepared for the onslaught of insults I’m sure will he directed my way. But to fire Clark is sec level idiocy
Emotionally and financially as well. I hate to say it but next year is the year for Clark. If we sputter again that’s it. I agree changes may need to be made in the off-season but maybe not the ones people think
-
- Posts: 1914
- Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:05 pm
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 397 times
- Been thanked: 698 times
-
- Posts: 1723
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:00 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 4482 times
- Been thanked: 1270 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
So you don’t really have anyone you are just venting. You are just talkingNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:41 pmMy point is simple, but perhaps naive. My post is absolute truth - for the same reason there are not only 2 people worthy of leading the free world every 4 years. There are tens of thousands of individuals that could do a better job than anyone you place on a pedestal.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:29 pmThrow out some namesNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
We are all just people.
- AppWyo
- Posts: 1000
- Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:25 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 44 times
- Been thanked: 499 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Why do some people always believe someone else is always better than who we have?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:43 pmSo you don’t really have anyone you are just venting. You are just talkingNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:41 pmMy point is simple, but perhaps naive. My post is absolute truth - for the same reason there are not only 2 people worthy of leading the free world every 4 years. There are tens of thousands of individuals that could do a better job than anyone you place on a pedestal.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:29 pmThrow out some namesNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pmWhat if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
We are all just people.
-
- Posts: 14321
- Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2000 8:42 am
- Has thanked: 3945 times
- Been thanked: 6139 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Three man rush EVERY third and long…
We are the most stubborn and unimaginative staff in the conference.
We are the most stubborn and unimaginative staff in the conference.
-
- Posts: 1723
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:00 am
- School: Appalachian State
- Has thanked: 4482 times
- Been thanked: 1270 times
Re: It's time guys...Clark must go
Everyone loves the backup quarterbackAppWyo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:46 pmWhy do some people always believe someone else is always better than who we have?Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:43 pmSo you don’t really have anyone you are just venting. You are just talkingNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:41 pmMy point is simple, but perhaps naive. My post is absolute truth - for the same reason there are not only 2 people worthy of leading the free world every 4 years. There are tens of thousands of individuals that could do a better job than anyone you place on a pedestal.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:29 pmThrow out some namesNoLongerLurking wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pm
What if I told you there are good coaches that don't need millions?
We are all just people.