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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:03 am

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Not defending the guy but seems there's a lot supposition here and I doubt anyone knows for sure.
If Chadwell didn't have a history of this kind of stuff, I'd agree with you. I usually try to give the benefit of doubt.

Sources like 247sports, bleacher report, the athletic, etc aren't going to report it as an academic issue unless it's an academic issue. It's simply not rumors at this point.
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:11 am

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Not defending the guy but seems there's a lot supposition here and I doubt anyone knows for sure.
If Chadwell didn't have a history of this kind of stuff, I'd agree with you. I usually try to give the benefit of doubt.

Sources like 247sports, bleacher report, the athletic, etc aren't going to report it as an academic issue unless it's an academic issue. It's simply not rumors at this point.
But an academic issue can mean lots of things. I'm not trying to be argumentative and certainly not defending him per SE but it seems some are jumping to a lot of conclusions because of who it is. He could be a poor student or someone who didn't attend class and finds himself in this predicament but not sure anyone knows the specifics.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:15 am

hapapp wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:11 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:03 am
hapapp wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:59 am
Not defending the guy but seems there's a lot supposition here and I doubt anyone knows for sure.
If Chadwell didn't have a history of this kind of stuff, I'd agree with you. I usually try to give the benefit of doubt.

Sources like 247sports, bleacher report, the athletic, etc aren't going to report it as an academic issue unless it's an academic issue. It's simply not rumors at this point.
But an academic issue can mean lots of things. I'm not trying to be argumentative and certainly not defending him per SE but it seems some are jumping to a lot of conclusions because of who it is. He could be a poor student or someone who didn't attend class and finds himself in this predicament but not sure anyone knows the specifics.
I think the issue is if he's not eligible to play at schools that literally take anybody, how is he eligible to play at Coastal? Either he's taking classes that don't exist anywhere else to maintain eligibility at Coastal or he's playing when he's not eligible at Coastal.

Either one is not good and against NCAA rules..
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:21 am

Certainly not unheard of but without the facts we've accused Coastal of cheating to keep him eligible. Maybe they have but you don't know that and because many see you as reputable, they will run with that.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:28 am

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Certainly not unheard of but without the facts we've accused Coastal of cheating to keep him eligible. Maybe they have but you don't know that and because many see you as reputable, they will run with that.
Again, if Chadwell didn't have a history of doing this kind of stuff, it's not an issue at all and there isn't any kind of conjecture. But the guy has literally played players that aren't even students at the school before...

It's too much happenstance for it to be coincidental. Had McCall chosen not to go because of credit hours, cool. But Auburn and Florida both said nope because he wouldn't be eligible to play for them. Again, how is a player eligible to play for Coastal but not teams notoriously known for bending the rules to gain/maintain eligibility?

And yes, I am accusing Coastal of cheating. But I've been very vocal about that for at least 2 years now. This isn't an isolated case.
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by asueddie » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:03 am

Just an educated guess, but perhaps once the non-transferable classes were eliminated from his transcript, his GPA fell below 2.0???

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:10 am

AppStateNews wrote:
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Florida and Auburn both wanted him bad but he wouldn't be eligible there because of aforementioned classes. It's almost like Chadwell has a history of academic fraud and playing ineligible players...
One has to wonder if the issue was academic progress. If there were classes that didn’t transfer, that could push the number of credit hours towards a degree below an acceptable threshold to make him eligible.
I have no idea what the rules are now, but I believe as long as he's considered a full time student while he's playing and practicing, it doesn't matter if the credit hours are going to a specific degree. If it does matter now, all they have to say is he's considering another major and trying to pick which one so he's taking different classes.

To me, this points to more of a UNC Cheat type scenario. "Oh Grayson, you have a 1.5 GPA. Here, enroll in these 4 classes to get guaranteed As this semester." Not saying they're fake classes like at UNC Cheat, but seems a little odd that two SEC schools that have a history of accepting anybody if they're good at football both said no because of his classes.
My understanding, with specificity to Auburn, was that Auburn did not offer his major. Therefore, many of his credit hours were null and void. As a 4th year student, he would need to have completed a minimum of 96 hours of his coursework, (each athlete must complete 24 hours a year). If his courses didn’t transfer, then he is back down to 60 hours of General Ed and would be far below the threshold for an athlete that has been in school for 4 years.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:30 am

Much hash being slung around about a kid that most of anyone on this board actually knows him and/or that no one knows the actual truth about the situation ...i know a CCU fan or I dated his cousin or an insider at xyz university...sounds like Facebook or Twitter, National Enquirer (or Inquirer..whatever it was) truths..which we know how credible they are ..
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:01 am

I hate the guy as a sports fan, but if we’re being fair, there were three other legit QBs in the transfer portal that are heading back. I just want to know if he still pees teal.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by appstate24 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:52 am

I think it’s pretty simple. McCall is as dumb as a stick, Chadwell is as crooked as they come. McCall is coming back to get his azz kicked one more time at The Rock.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by appfanz » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:21 am

There was a lot of talk that when Chadwell was at Charleston Southern he was playing kids who were not even enrolled in school. If true, not sure how the university would let him get away with that.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:55 am

appfanz wrote:
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There was a lot of talk that when Chadwell was at Charleston Southern he was playing kids who were not even enrolled in school. If true, not sure how the university would let him get away with that.
After reading those posts I ask the same question. How on earth does that possibly fly? I know a lot of this is just playful crap talk but is McCall really a bad young man? I'm sure we have had (and still have) our share of crazy dudes. We've had a few nut jobs on the offensive line over the years.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:57 am

appfanz wrote:
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There was a lot of talk that when Chadwell was at Charleston Southern he was playing kids who were not even enrolled in school. If true, not sure how the university would let him get away with that.
No talk about it. It's factual. It put Charleston Southern on probation, lost wins, and other sanctions.

Charleston Southern didn't have enough compliance staff in place and Chadwell took advantage.
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by BayouApp » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:07 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:30 am
Much hash being slung around about a kid that most of anyone on this board actually knows him and/or that no one knows the actual truth about the situation ...i know a CCU fan or I dated his cousin or an insider at xyz university...sounds like Facebook or Twitter, National Enquirer (or Inquirer..whatever it was) truths..which we know how credible they are ..
Side note ..is the NE or NI still in publication?🤣
Agreed. We do not know what the issues were, and it is unfair to label him dumb or a cheat or anything else despite our views of Coastal. The Coastal offense is not a simple one. It takes some mental acuity to learn it and run it wll.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:25 am

AppStateNews wrote:
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There was a lot of talk that when Chadwell was at Charleston Southern he was playing kids who were not even enrolled in school. If true, not sure how the university would let him get away with that.
No talk about it. It's factual. It put Charleston Southern on probation, lost wins, and other sanctions.

Charleston Southern didn't have enough compliance staff in place and Chadwell took advantage.
Playing guys that weren’t enrolled seems like a “show cause” sanction was in order.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:27 am

How was Chatwell allowed to continue coaching or does that fall mainly on the school registrar staff?

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:40 am

Why not go pro? He’s done enough at coastal and warrants a mid round draft grade. 3rd to 4th round. Imagine choosing to go back to conway as a 23 year old over going to the NFL…he really isn’t bright.

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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by huskie3 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:49 am

:x He may actually piss teal, I just checked and I piss gold
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Re: McCall withdraws from portal

Unread post by Appmountaineers19 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:51 am

311neers wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:40 am
Why not go pro? He’s done enough at coastal and warrants a mid round draft grade. 3rd to 4th round. Imagine choosing to go back to conway as a 23 year old over going to the NFL…he really isn’t bright.
Maybe he's hurt as well...

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