Up Next...UNC

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:53 am

Appst86 wrote:
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We have a starting QB with more starting experience than last time we went down there and beat them...
Very true and you make a valid point....but Zach could run very well and I think we had a better overall talented team then vs a much weaker Carolina team talent wise plus we were under the radar coming into that game. I remember actually expecting to beat Carolina in that one and I think many others did too.
That's fair. I agree 2019 had better individual talent but I think we have more depth this year.
It especially seems like we do on defense in a few spots. I looked at the numbers on PFF and they got us credited with 19 offensive players and 28 defensive players who played.

We played 10 DBs, 6 DL, and 12 LBs. That seemed like a solid number for this game. On offense we had 2 QBs, 7 WRs, 2 TEs, 6 OL, and 2 RBs. I was hoping to see 2-3 more OL, 1-2 more RBs, and another TE but overall we did see a lot. If we had Marshall, Castle, and McKnight able to play I feel like they all would have seen the field as well.
We had 13 players on the roster in 2019 that were in NFL camps this summer (some have since been released/cut). Listed below. I did this pretty quick so I may have missed some; nonetheless, there's a reason we won 13 games.

Jalen Virgil WR Denver Broncos
Nick Hampton LB Los Angeles Rams
Steven Jones. DB Tennessee Titans
Akeem Davis-Gaither LB Cincinnati Bengals
Ryan Neuzil OL. Atlanta Falcons
Cooper Hodges OL Jacksonville Jaguars
Darrynton Evans RB Buffalo Bills
Anderson Hardy OL Kansas City Chiefs
Henry Pearson FB/TE Green Bay Packers
Demarco Jackson LB New Orleans Saints
Shaun Jolly DB. Los Angeles Rams
Shemar Jean-Charles DB Green Bay Packers
Cameron Peoples RB Carolina Panthers
We have some on this roster who are going to get a shot but definitely not the same among seniors. Noel is only senior who has any shot to get drafted as of now.

Here is the status of those you listed. Almost half were cut.
Jalen Virgil WR Denver Broncos- IR
Nick Hampton LB Los Angeles Rams
Steven Jones. DB Tennessee Titans- Cut
Akeem Davis-Gaither LB Cincinnati Bengals
Ryan Neuzil OL. Atlanta Falcons
Cooper Hodges OL Jacksonville Jaguars- IR
Darrynton Evans RB Buffalo Bills- Cut and signed to Dolphins practice squad.
Anderson Hardy OL Kansas City Chiefs- Cut
Henry Pearson FB/TE Green Bay Packers- PS
Demarco Jackson LB New Orleans Saints
Shaun Jolly DB. Los Angeles Rams- Cut
Shemar Jean-Charles DB Green Bay Packers- Cut and signed to 49ers practice squad
Cameron Peoples RB Carolina Panthers- Cut

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 am

Black Saturday wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:27 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:58 pm
CornCobPipes wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:49 pm
AppStateNews wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:43 pm


We have a starting QB with more starting experience than last time we went down there and beat them...
Very true and you make a valid point....but Zach could run very well and I think we had a better overall talented team then vs a much weaker Carolina team talent wise plus we were under the radar coming into that game. I remember actually expecting to beat Carolina in that one and I think many others did too.
That's fair. I agree 2019 had better individual talent but I think we have more depth this year.
It especially seems like we do on defense in a few spots. I looked at the numbers on PFF and they got us credited with 19 offensive players and 28 defensive players who played.

We played 10 DBs, 6 DL, and 12 LBs. That seemed like a solid number for this game. On offense we had 2 QBs, 7 WRs, 2 TEs, 6 OL, and 2 RBs. I was hoping to see 2-3 more OL, 1-2 more RBs, and another TE but overall we did see a lot. If we had Marshall, Castle, and McKnight able to play I feel like they all would have seen the field as well.
Why did we run Noel 24 times with all the backs we have and risk injury against GW even after the game was decided? Did we need the "practice" or is it just dumb? I think our RBs 2-3-4 are capable of offering relief.

Why did we play 10 yards off the receivers all game long and allow the bubble screen to be completed, and not bring any pressure until later in the game? Were we afraid of Gaither?

Needed adjustments continue to be slow in my opinion.

Happy our backup QB can see the field and throw the ball in a shoebox.
I believe 2 of our backup RBs were hurt or they would have played. Moose can confirm that? I did think it would be nice to have seen a couple of the others though.

I also agree some adjustments were slow in being made but I think we got to give them a few weeks. I firmly believe the staff viewed GW as a game to tinker around and play with some things to see what works. Hopefully they got all those issues out of the way because we got to be more consistent, limit mistakes, and see improved OL play or the UNC game will be a really long one.

I am going to be interested to see how much the line goes up because it just feels low with UNC being ranked and us looking like we did. It was -14.5 but moved up to -17.5 already. Could it hit -20.5?

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:01 am

Burger out 3-4 weeks.

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:04 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:27 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:58 pm
CornCobPipes wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:49 pm


Very true and you make a valid point....but Zach could run very well and I think we had a better overall talented team then vs a much weaker Carolina team talent wise plus we were under the radar coming into that game. I remember actually expecting to beat Carolina in that one and I think many others did too.
That's fair. I agree 2019 had better individual talent but I think we have more depth this year.
It especially seems like we do on defense in a few spots. I looked at the numbers on PFF and they got us credited with 19 offensive players and 28 defensive players who played.

We played 10 DBs, 6 DL, and 12 LBs. That seemed like a solid number for this game. On offense we had 2 QBs, 7 WRs, 2 TEs, 6 OL, and 2 RBs. I was hoping to see 2-3 more OL, 1-2 more RBs, and another TE but overall we did see a lot. If we had Marshall, Castle, and McKnight able to play I feel like they all would have seen the field as well.
Why did we run Noel 24 times with all the backs we have and risk injury against GW even after the game was decided? Did we need the "practice" or is it just dumb? I think our RBs 2-3-4 are capable of offering relief.

Why did we play 10 yards off the receivers all game long and allow the bubble screen to be completed, and not bring any pressure until later in the game? Were we afraid of Gaither?

Needed adjustments continue to be slow in my opinion.

Happy our backup QB can see the field and throw the ball in a shoebox.
I believe 2 of our backup RBs were hurt or they would have played. Moose can confirm that? I did think it would be nice to have seen a couple of the others though.

I also agree some adjustments were slow in being made but I think we got to give them a few weeks. I firmly believe the staff viewed GW as a game to tinker around and play with some things to see what works. Hopefully they got all those issues out of the way because we got to be more consistent, limit mistakes, and see improved OL play or the UNC game will be a really long one.

I am going to be interested to see how much the line goes up because it just feels low with UNC being ranked and us looking like we did. It was -14.5 but moved up to -17.5 already. Could it hit -20.5?
I don’t think Marshall participated in the game (ST or offense).

However, Kanye Roberts did participate according to the stat sheet posted on our website. So he must have been healthy. Odd we only had 3 RB’s active and he didn’t tote the rock.

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:21 am

311neers wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:04 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:27 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:58 pm


That's fair. I agree 2019 had better individual talent but I think we have more depth this year.
It especially seems like we do on defense in a few spots. I looked at the numbers on PFF and they got us credited with 19 offensive players and 28 defensive players who played.

We played 10 DBs, 6 DL, and 12 LBs. That seemed like a solid number for this game. On offense we had 2 QBs, 7 WRs, 2 TEs, 6 OL, and 2 RBs. I was hoping to see 2-3 more OL, 1-2 more RBs, and another TE but overall we did see a lot. If we had Marshall, Castle, and McKnight able to play I feel like they all would have seen the field as well.
Why did we run Noel 24 times with all the backs we have and risk injury against GW even after the game was decided? Did we need the "practice" or is it just dumb? I think our RBs 2-3-4 are capable of offering relief.

Why did we play 10 yards off the receivers all game long and allow the bubble screen to be completed, and not bring any pressure until later in the game? Were we afraid of Gaither?

Needed adjustments continue to be slow in my opinion.

Happy our backup QB can see the field and throw the ball in a shoebox.
I believe 2 of our backup RBs were hurt or they would have played. Moose can confirm that? I did think it would be nice to have seen a couple of the others though.

I also agree some adjustments were slow in being made but I think we got to give them a few weeks. I firmly believe the staff viewed GW as a game to tinker around and play with some things to see what works. Hopefully they got all those issues out of the way because we got to be more consistent, limit mistakes, and see improved OL play or the UNC game will be a really long one.

I am going to be interested to see how much the line goes up because it just feels low with UNC being ranked and us looking like we did. It was -14.5 but moved up to -17.5 already. Could it hit -20.5?
I don’t think Marshall participated in the game (ST or offense).

However, Kanye Roberts did participate according to the stat sheet posted on our website. So he must have been healthy. Odd we only had 3 RB’s active and he didn’t tote the rock.
I was counting on offense. I think Kanye was on special teams probably? Castle and Marshall were supposedly dinged up. I was hoping to see Kanye but I don't know if he was dinged up or they just did not play him?

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:24 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:21 am
311neers wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:04 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:27 am


It especially seems like we do on defense in a few spots. I looked at the numbers on PFF and they got us credited with 19 offensive players and 28 defensive players who played.

We played 10 DBs, 6 DL, and 12 LBs. That seemed like a solid number for this game. On offense we had 2 QBs, 7 WRs, 2 TEs, 6 OL, and 2 RBs. I was hoping to see 2-3 more OL, 1-2 more RBs, and another TE but overall we did see a lot. If we had Marshall, Castle, and McKnight able to play I feel like they all would have seen the field as well.
Why did we run Noel 24 times with all the backs we have and risk injury against GW even after the game was decided? Did we need the "practice" or is it just dumb? I think our RBs 2-3-4 are capable of offering relief.

Why did we play 10 yards off the receivers all game long and allow the bubble screen to be completed, and not bring any pressure until later in the game? Were we afraid of Gaither?

Needed adjustments continue to be slow in my opinion.

Happy our backup QB can see the field and throw the ball in a shoebox.
I believe 2 of our backup RBs were hurt or they would have played. Moose can confirm that? I did think it would be nice to have seen a couple of the others though.

I also agree some adjustments were slow in being made but I think we got to give them a few weeks. I firmly believe the staff viewed GW as a game to tinker around and play with some things to see what works. Hopefully they got all those issues out of the way because we got to be more consistent, limit mistakes, and see improved OL play or the UNC game will be a really long one.

I am going to be interested to see how much the line goes up because it just feels low with UNC being ranked and us looking like we did. It was -14.5 but moved up to -17.5 already. Could it hit -20.5?
I don’t think Marshall participated in the game (ST or offense).

However, Kanye Roberts did participate according to the stat sheet posted on our website. So he must have been healthy. Odd we only had 3 RB’s active and he didn’t tote the rock.
I was counting on offense. I think Kanye was on special teams probably? Castle and Marshall were supposedly dinged up. I was hoping to see Kanye but I don't know if he was dinged up or they just did not play him?
Castle is out 8 weeks.

Marshall seems like he was out.

Kanye played ST so he was healthy enough to get on the field. Why he didn’t carry the ball is unknown. Would like to know why but probably won’t get answers on his status or Marshall.

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:31 am

Week 2 depth chart is out.
Marshall is the backup.
Roberts listed as 3rd or 4th. Might be a 4 headed monster incoming!

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:34 am

311neers wrote:
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Week 2 depth chart is out.
Marshall is the backup.
Roberts listed as 3rd or 4th. Might be a 4 headed monster incoming!
Where is it?

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:36 am

BallantyneApp wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:34 am
311neers wrote:
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Week 2 depth chart is out.
Marshall is the backup.
Roberts listed as 3rd or 4th. Might be a 4 headed monster incoming!
Where is it?
247 board. Not many changes other than QB depth and RB depth. Seems like Marshall is back.
Still no McKnight.

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:39 am

311neers wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:36 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:34 am
311neers wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:31 am
Week 2 depth chart is out.
Marshall is the backup.
Roberts listed as 3rd or 4th. Might be a 4 headed monster incoming!
Where is it?
247 board. Not many changes other than QB depth and RB depth. Seems like Marshall is back.
Still no McKnight.
Lame, I was hoping we were saving him for the UNC game

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by goapps93 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:45 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:27 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:58 pm
CornCobPipes wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:49 pm


Very true and you make a valid point....but Zach could run very well and I think we had a better overall talented team then vs a much weaker Carolina team talent wise plus we were under the radar coming into that game. I remember actually expecting to beat Carolina in that one and I think many others did too.
That's fair. I agree 2019 had better individual talent but I think we have more depth this year.
It especially seems like we do on defense in a few spots. I looked at the numbers on PFF and they got us credited with 19 offensive players and 28 defensive players who played.

We played 10 DBs, 6 DL, and 12 LBs. That seemed like a solid number for this game. On offense we had 2 QBs, 7 WRs, 2 TEs, 6 OL, and 2 RBs. I was hoping to see 2-3 more OL, 1-2 more RBs, and another TE but overall we did see a lot. If we had Marshall, Castle, and McKnight able to play I feel like they all would have seen the field as well.
Why did we run Noel 24 times with all the backs we have and risk injury against GW even after the game was decided? Did we need the "practice" or is it just dumb? I think our RBs 2-3-4 are capable of offering relief.

Why did we play 10 yards off the receivers all game long and allow the bubble screen to be completed, and not bring any pressure until later in the game? Were we afraid of Gaither?

Needed adjustments continue to be slow in my opinion.

Happy our backup QB can see the field and throw the ball in a shoebox.
I believe 2 of our backup RBs were hurt or they would have played. Moose can confirm that? I did think it would be nice to have seen a couple of the others though.

I also agree some adjustments were slow in being made but I think we got to give them a few weeks. I firmly believe the staff viewed GW as a game to tinker around and play with some things to see what works. Hopefully they got all those issues out of the way because we got to be more consistent, limit mistakes, and see improved OL play or the UNC game will be a really long one.

I am going to be interested to see how much the line goes up because it just feels low with UNC being ranked and us looking like we did. It was -14.5 but moved up to -17.5 already. Could it hit -20.5?
It’ll go up until more bettors lay money on App. Has less to do with predicted winner at this point.
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Re: Up Next...UNC

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Coach Clark presser.
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Re: Up Next...UNC

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:16 pm

David Jackson said prior to the game that we most likely wouldn't see Marshall - we all know the status of Castle - as to Roberts, I have heard nothing - who else should we have used?
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Re: Up Next...UNC

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WVAPPeer wrote:
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David Jackson said prior to the game that we most likely wouldn't see Marshall - we all know the status of Castle - as to Roberts, I have heard nothing - who else should we have used?
We had 3 available last week (not counting Calhoun). This week it’s 4 (not counting Calhoun). Hope to see them all!

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by appstate24 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:28 pm

Captain Morgan wrote:
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we're gonna miss Demetrius
Shhh, u just made Sam Howell pee his pants a little. GO APPS!!

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Re: Up Next...UNC

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311neers wrote:
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David Jackson said prior to the game that we most likely wouldn't see Marshall - we all know the status of Castle - as to Roberts, I have heard nothing - who else should we have used?
We had 3 available last week (not counting Calhoun). This week it’s 4 (not counting Calhoun). Hope to see them all!
Not enough touches in the game for all 4. KR will have to wait his turn.

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by appstate77 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:30 pm

The big youngun from Michigan State will do just fine.

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:36 pm

Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:30 pm
311neers wrote:
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David Jackson said prior to the game that we most likely wouldn't see Marshall - we all know the status of Castle - as to Roberts, I have heard nothing - who else should we have used?
We had 3 available last week (not counting Calhoun). This week it’s 4 (not counting Calhoun). Hope to see them all!
Not enough touches in the game for all 4. KR will have to wait his turn.
Yup, it’s a long season, good to have the room we do. This 3 game stretch will be tough but we’ve got the guys to do it back there.

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Re: Up Next...UNC

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:00 pm

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Saturday to me was a tale of 2 teams - once the backup QB came into the game and made plays - App woke up. I believe there is more confidence with the 2nd QB in the lineup. I hope this continues. I still believe we can win - however, I do believe we will need to score and score often. The UNC D is much improved and we will need to be mistake free.

I do believe we make in game changes - slowly - however, more that in the past.

Go APPs!!
I heard some players mentioned they prefer Aguilar. If that's true and the coaching staff was actually 50/50 on the decision, it makes sense we saw the spark when JA came in.
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