Miller hill

[appstate24]

Forgive me for my Risk Management background, but that looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

Have you seen "suicide hill" behind the music building?

Seen it? If you were a student at App and didn’t sled down suicide hill, were you really even a student at App?!

Saw a dude hit the bricks head on, knocked out cold for a few seconds. Did that stop us from going again…nope

GO APPS!!

[Capt. Ed]

Hey, I asked for forgiveness in my post! But, anal or not, anyone should be able to see the problems with jamming that many people on a grassy hill with no possible way to get out in an emergency except to stampede. I read somewhere there were 8,000 people there Saturday.

For me, it's the most compelling reason to erect permanent stands and provide access for exits and for medical and security to easily enter. I was impressed there were undercover security folks sprinkled among the crowd.

I certainly hope we never have a serious problem on Miller Hill but it's something to think about for the future.

[mike87]

I went in early to the first game with my granddaughter and played on the hill. It's really not that steep or intimidating. Appearances are misleading. You gotta know they have risk-managed the crap out of it. Students love it and that's what's important. They can squeeze the financials out of something else. I don't think there's any intention of removing the hill.

[ASUFan4863]

We need more Miller Hills in sports. What it's all about.

I personally fully enjoyed watching the students sliding down the impromptu slip 'n slide, aka Miller Hill. They were having the best time and will remember that for years... well, maybe. If the students have fun at the games, they will come back, and our students ARE the home field advantage at KBS.

That is why I have no issue with them storming the field. From a football POV, it doesn't make sense but if that experience makes a life long YC member or fan then it is worth it. Students pay thousands to just get the short end of the stick from the school and most locals 9 times out of 10.

[canes_mj]

I used to really dislike the hill because it was too far from the field and the view was terrible...I never sat on it but it still bothered me that others were sitting at such a terrible view...also seemed that people on it weren't paying attention to the game. NOW, with the regrading and making it closer to the field I love it. It adds to KBS; it aesthetically looks good. It an extension of the student section with loud and rowdy students helping our home field advantage.

I will agree with the sentiment of the post re potential hazards, and think they need to be proactive with some preventative measures (idk what, not my area) to analyze and minimize potential safety issues. But it's really added to the stadium.

[HighlandsApp]

I hope with our attendance this year the rethinking keeping those temporary bleachers for the rest of the season and refunding the folks who paid for the rock garden.....

[goapps93]

Stepped concrete would increase safety and still allow students and others to pack in.

[biggie]

Forgive me for my Risk Management background, but that looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

Have you seen "suicide hill" behind the music building?

Seen it? If you were a student at App and didn’t sled down suicide hill, were you really even a student at App?!

Saw a dude hit the bricks head on, knocked out cold for a few seconds. Did that stop us from going again…nope

GO APPS!!

Amazingly the only sledding death I recall was in the stadium parking lot.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Come to think of it... I don't think I ever returned my tray/sled to Welborn

[Mjohn1988]

We need more Miller Hills in sports. What it's all about.

Agree. Preserve Miller Hill (grass and trees) in the South End Zone at all cost. It's what makes KBS picturesque, unique and a bucket list stadium for all college football fans.

With due respect, I disagree. Miller Hill has a nostalgic aspect but the reality is that it is now overflow seating for every game. The view is offers if just bodies crammed together on a hill. There is a safety issue and we simply cannot continue charging premium prices to sit on wet grass. If we had unlimited resources and spaces, sure ....expand the other options and keep the hill. The hill is the obvious option for expanding our legit seats.

No intent to disrespect the opinion you offer. I just think it will be necessary and logical to expand that option.

Let’s start with I have no research to support my assumption but I’ll bet a lot of those folks on Miller Hill don’t want a seat. They want to be on the hill.

[Bigdaddyg1]

If we did install aluminum or concrete bleachers on the hill would we still cram in students like we do now? Would it make any difference? Obviously on a rainy day you avoid the mud issues but otherwise unless the stadium administration limits the number of bodies you still have the same issue.

[canes_mj]

We need more Miller Hills in sports. What it's all about.

Agree. Preserve Miller Hill (grass and trees) in the South End Zone at all cost. It's what makes KBS picturesque, unique and a bucket list stadium for all college football fans.

With due respect, I disagree. Miller Hill has a nostalgic aspect but the reality is that it is now overflow seating for every game. The view is offers if just bodies crammed together on a hill. There is a safety issue and we simply cannot continue charging premium prices to sit on wet grass. If we had unlimited resources and spaces, sure ....expand the other options and keep the hill. The hill is the obvious option for expanding our legit seats.

No intent to disrespect the opinion you offer. I just think it will be necessary and logical to expand that option.

Let’s start with I have no research to support my assumption but I’ll bet a lot of those folks on Miller Hill don’t want a seat. They want to be on the hill.

Agree. And we have the NEZ to put bleachers/seats/suites....night and day how much better the NEZ looks with having those extra seast underneath.

[App4that]

Forgive me for my Risk Management background, but that looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

Have you seen "suicide hill" behind the music building?

Seen it? If you were a student at App and didn’t sled down suicide hill, were you really even a student at App?!

Saw a dude hit the bricks head on, knocked out cold for a few seconds. Did that stop us from going again…nope

GO APPS!!

Amazingly the only sledding death I recall was in the stadium parking lot.

Freshman year I had business calculus with a girl that was almost part of that statistic. Rode a cafeteria tray down Suicide Hill during spring semester. Problem was ASU maintenance had been doing some culvert work between semesters and there was exposed rebar that was buried under the snow. Caught her in the leg and missed her femoral artery by inches. She was on crutches for most of that semester but grateful to be above ground at all.

I thought that class was bad enough on its own!

[BeauFoster]

Forgive me for my Risk Management background, but that looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

Have you seen "suicide hill" behind the music building?

Seen it? If you were a student at App and didn’t sled down suicide hill, were you really even a student at App?!

Saw a dude hit the bricks head on, knocked out cold for a few seconds. Did that stop us from going again…nope

GO APPS!!

Amazingly the only sledding death I recall was in the stadium parking lot.

Freshman year I had business calculus with a girl that was almost part of that statistic. Rode a cafeteria tray down Suicide Hill during spring semester. Problem was ASU maintenance had been doing some culvert work between semesters and there was exposed rebar that was buried under the snow. Caught her in the leg and missed her femoral artery by inches. She was on crutches for most of that semester but grateful to be above ground at all.

I thought that class was bad enough on its own!

Jesus…talk about risk management. I hope that we’re taking safety more seriously now.

Kids are gonna be kids, and personal responsibility comes into play when doing something stupid like sledding, but what if someone had just slipped and fell and that had happened?

[AppStMike201]

Forgive me for my Risk Management background, but that looks like a disaster waiting to happen.

I dated a girl at App who broke a bone sledding down the old hill. Or at least that’s what she told me (and I have my reasons for adding that last part)

LOLZ!!! He has good reasons!

Wasn't there a movie several years ago that had a character whose job was risk management? He was extremely anal and over analyzed every decision based on statistical data. It was funny as I remember.

Along Came Polly? That was an amazing movie if that’s the one you are referring to. Ben Stiller, Jennifer Aniston and Philip Seymour Hoffman.

Let it RAIN! RAIN DANCE!

[Appstate88]

We need more Miller Hills in sports. What it's all about.

Agree. Preserve Miller Hill (grass and trees) in the South End Zone at all cost. It's what makes KBS picturesque, unique and a bucket list stadium for all college football fans.

With due respect, I disagree. Miller Hill has a nostalgic aspect but the reality is that it is now overflow seating for every game. The view is offers if just bodies crammed together on a hill. There is a safety issue and we simply cannot continue charging premium prices to sit on wet grass. If we had unlimited resources and spaces, sure ....expand the other options and keep the hill. The hill is the obvious option for expanding our legit seats.

No intent to disrespect the opinion you offer. I just think it will be necessary and logical to expand that option.

I prefer this planned logical expansion instead. I would also give our students both lower levels on east and west side. 12k seats (6k on each side). https://www.yosefscabin.com/forum/viewt ... 0&start=20

Thanks to A2534 for sending these over...

[NewApp]

Have you seen "suicide hill" behind the music building?

Seen it? If you were a student at App and didn’t sled down suicide hill, were you really even a student at App?!

Saw a dude hit the bricks head on, knocked out cold for a few seconds. Did that stop us from going again…nope

GO APPS!!

Amazingly the only sledding death I recall was in the stadium parking lot.

Freshman year I had business calculus with a girl that was almost part of that statistic. Rode a cafeteria tray down Suicide Hill during spring semester. Problem was ASU maintenance had been doing some culvert work between semesters and there was exposed rebar that was buried under the snow. Caught her in the leg and missed her femoral artery by inches. She was on crutches for most of that semester but grateful to be above ground at all.

I thought that class was bad enough on its own!

Jesus…talk about risk management. I hope that we’re taking safety more seriously now.

Kids are gonna be kids, and personal responsibility comes into play when doing something stupid like sledding, but what if someone had just slipped and fell and that had happened?

Not trying to be a smart arse, but are 18-22 year olds "kids?" They can vote, drive a car, get married, etc etc.

[Bigdaddyg1]

We need more Miller Hills in sports. What it's all about.

Agree. Preserve Miller Hill (grass and trees) in the South End Zone at all cost. It's what makes KBS picturesque, unique and a bucket list stadium for all college football fans.

With due respect, I disagree. Miller Hill has a nostalgic aspect but the reality is that it is now overflow seating for every game. The view is offers if just bodies crammed together on a hill. There is a safety issue and we simply cannot continue charging premium prices to sit on wet grass. If we had unlimited resources and spaces, sure ....expand the other options and keep the hill. The hill is the obvious option for expanding our legit seats.

No intent to disrespect the opinion you offer. I just think it will be necessary and logical to expand that option.

I prefer this planned logical expansion instead. I would also give our students both lower levels on east and west side. 12k seats (6k on each side). https://www.yosefscabin.com/forum/viewt ... 0&start=20

Thanks to A2534 for sending these over...

I recall these concepts being floated around and they look great but help me understand where the added seats are located. Is this concept adding a lower student section on the visitor side?

[311neers]

We need more Miller Hills in sports. What it's all about.

Agree. Preserve Miller Hill (grass and trees) in the South End Zone at all cost. It's what makes KBS picturesque, unique and a bucket list stadium for all college football fans.

With due respect, I disagree. Miller Hill has a nostalgic aspect but the reality is that it is now overflow seating for every game. The view is offers if just bodies crammed together on a hill. There is a safety issue and we simply cannot continue charging premium prices to sit on wet grass. If we had unlimited resources and spaces, sure ....expand the other options and keep the hill. The hill is the obvious option for expanding our legit seats.

No intent to disrespect the opinion you offer. I just think it will be necessary and logical to expand that option.

I prefer this planned logical expansion instead. I would also give our students both lower levels on east and west side. 12k seats (6k on each side). https://www.yosefscabin.com/forum/viewt ... 0&start=20

Thanks to A2534 for sending these over...

I recall these concepts being floated around and they look great but help me understand where the added seats are located. Is this concept adding a lower student section on the visitor side?

No. They’re saying give Students BOTH east and west 120 yards of sidelines. Concessions and concourse traffic would be appsolutely nuts and would never happen. We’re probably the only school that gives students 120 yards of sideline to begin with.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Agree. Preserve Miller Hill (grass and trees) in the South End Zone at all cost. It's what makes KBS picturesque, unique and a bucket list stadium for all college football fans.

With due respect, I disagree. Miller Hill has a nostalgic aspect but the reality is that it is now overflow seating for every game. The view is offers if just bodies crammed together on a hill. There is a safety issue and we simply cannot continue charging premium prices to sit on wet grass. If we had unlimited resources and spaces, sure ....expand the other options and keep the hill. The hill is the obvious option for expanding our legit seats.

No intent to disrespect the opinion you offer. I just think it will be necessary and logical to expand that option.

I prefer this planned logical expansion instead. I would also give our students both lower levels on east and west side. 12k seats (6k on each side). https://www.yosefscabin.com/forum/viewt ... 0&start=20

Thanks to A2534 for sending these over...

I recall these concepts being floated around and they look great but help me understand where the added seats are located. Is this concept adding a lower student section on the visitor side?

No. They’re saying give Students BOTH east and west 120 yards of sidelines. Concessions and concourse traffic would be appsolutely nuts and would never happen. We’re probably the only school that gives students 120 yards of sideline to begin with.

So basically no regular seating is added and the hill is reserved as it used to be? Seems like an odd idea.