Wyoming Discussion

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

A&M won 4 games last year
UNC is fair, but still loses. Moral victories aren’t victories
He didnt call the onside kick vs CC. The kicker admitted that he and Tucker did it on their own accord, they said it on BGP this week
ECU is terrible. does he get a star for beating another 1-3 team?

[AppStateNews]

I didn't see it as playing scared. I saw it as playing against an offense that couldn't do anything all night and being confident in our defense to get the job done like they did all night outside of one run.

The same people complaining about going for the FG there are the same ones that complained about not going for the FG last year. Football is really easy in hindsight. Nobody expects a blocked FG -- let alone one that bounces perfectly for the scoop and score. If anyone can predict that and they aren't coaching anywhere, they are missing their calling.

[ASUTodd]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

I don't know what meds they have you on....but let me know so I can get some.

[ASU843]

There will be white knights in here claiming our goals are still in front of us when we’re 6-6 again…

We were not 6-6. 4-6 FBS

[AppStateNews]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

A&M won 4 games last year
UNC is fair, but still loses. Moral victories aren’t victories
He didnt call the onside kick vs CC. The kicker admitted that he and Tucker did it on their own accord, they said it on BGP this week
ECU is terrible. does he get a star for beating another 1-3 team?

While he didn't make the call to do the kick, he did make the call to let the Hughes and Milan make that decision if they got the look they liked.

So, while it wasn't a "kick the ball to Milan" call it was a "if they give you this look, let Milan know and let's roll" call.

[Bigdaddyg1]

We pay this man a million dollars! A MILLION FREAKING DOLLARS!!! I'm officially done.

What's this have to do with anything, he's actually under paid all things considering and he doesn't make a million.

Yep of all the stuff to vent about his salary- comparatively speaking being low, is not one to use.

[311neers]

We’ve got to flip the switch right now. We can’t tuck our tails. Time to go on a run and bounce back. 10-2.

[wb247]

Just curious how a blocked kick is on Clark. Was he one of the two guys that got destroyed by one guy up the middle?

Just curious how the fumbled lateral is on Clark. If Davis catches it, he may still be running. But, did Clark make the dumb decision to throw it? And even if he did, did he drop the pass and then stand there and watch the defender grab it?

I haven't read the entire thread since I was at the game, but they ran the game plan to perfection minus those 2 and the final play. We destroyed in TOP. We dominated on defense. We did exactly what we had to do to win the game -- except for the two plays above.

I obviously haven't gone back to watch it yet, but all clock management decisions were done by Ware, Watts, and Ponce.. with Clark making final decision -- not once did he go against the suggestion from what I could tell (which again, may be bad but I haven't gone back to watch so unsure).

I'm not going to say Clark had nothing to do with this since I haven't gone back to watch it yet (and it's hard as a fan on the sidelines to pay that close of attention to the details), but if those two plays above don't happen, we win by 2 or 3 scores. And if Joey makes the right decision on the final play, Noel is literally walking in to the end zone to walk it off.

To me, this game is 100% on the red zone offense -- or lack there of. The fact we had the lead at half after 4 red zone drives and no TDs and a gift of a fumble was incredible.

You make good points but it's said EVERY SINGLE game when you are in FG range with ZERO timeouts. You can't take a sack, catch it in bounds or throw a PIC. We were in FG range and it was the coach's decision to take another shot. We all wanted the win but you have to see that pressure coming and unload it out of bounds or first and foremost kick the FG!

Right, but that pressure was expected. We knew it was coming (trust me, everybody on our sideline new they were bringing the heat on that play) which is why we called the screen we called. Again, of Joey gets it to Nate like he's supposed to, Nate has 2 guys to beat with 5 guys blocking for him. Worst case, he gets the first down. Best, and likely the case if JA makes the right read, is a walk off TD.

I'm not sure I agree with the decision instead of going for a FG, but one of the reasons why is because Wyoming figured something out on film for our kicks. After the first FG, the guard came off trying to tell the staff about something. After the 2nd FG, same guard comes off and says "told you! It's coming soon!" presumably talking about the block. They did change protection on the 3rd and 4th FGs. Not sure what happened on the block (have to back and watch) but after it, the staff was not confident calling another long FG because of what they were doing in the middle and the low trajectory of a long FG. Not excusing it, just explaining what was discussed on the sideline.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but we no longer have a dedicated special teams coach and haven't since the Satt years. Could be an oversight coming home to roost....

[Mjohn1988]

Burger may well have just gotten his starters job back. This loss is inexcusable. We just find a way to lose lately. I now have doubts about Clark myself.

I’ll say I agree with some of what you say.. but if you don’t see that this team was ready to play and win today you’re wrong. Blocked kicked for a TD is just bizarre this whole game was bizarre! I will say this .. there was more than one chances for us to put the game away and we didn’t.

And we didn’t…

[Saint3333]

Most frustrating loss since Wake Forest at home. Totally dominated, Wyoming is very fortunate. I will say this, their fans were as good as I’ve been around on the road. Classy. Still, fluke loss. 7 first downs and only 208 yards of O with 80 on one play, smh, it’s going to take a while to get over this one. No one to blame imo, just extremely unlucky in this one.

Luck is when preparation meets effort and teams the last 16 games seem to be experiencing more “luck” than us. The bounces we used to get haven’t been as frequent.

[AppStateNews]

Trying to manage the end of a close game is a little harder at this level then it was at Shelby High eh?? Perhaps making your right hand man a former high school coach, no matter how successful he was, isn’t a great idea. How’s that working out for UNCC?

Wares role is coming the analytics and letting the coaches know what the analytics say. That's it. He's not making any decisions. He's weighing based on what the numbers say.

If that's right or wrong is a completely different conversation. But, Ware is not making any decisions. Ware is simply reading what years worth of research shows (and Ware is not conducting said research).

[ASUFan4863]

To blame this loss on Clark is stupid. Clark isn’t calling red zone plays. He isn’t blocking on the FG unit. He isn’t filling run gaps. He isn’t throwing balls up for grabs on the wrong read.

Did he tell Ponce to be conservative? Idk. I’m sure he played in role in that. But that decision alone is not the reason for the loss.

It’s time for QB1 to get us back on track.

[ASU843]

The only thing I would change based on being on the sidelines tonight is Joey to throw the perfectly setup screen to Noel at the end instead of chucking it up....

The only thing you would change? Lol

[AppStateNews]

Just curious how a blocked kick is on Clark. Was he one of the two guys that got destroyed by one guy up the middle?

Just curious how the fumbled lateral is on Clark. If Davis catches it, he may still be running. But, did Clark make the dumb decision to throw it? And even if he did, did he drop the pass and then stand there and watch the defender grab it?

I haven't read the entire thread since I was at the game, but they ran the game plan to perfection minus those 2 and the final play. We destroyed in TOP. We dominated on defense. We did exactly what we had to do to win the game -- except for the two plays above.

I obviously haven't gone back to watch it yet, but all clock management decisions were done by Ware, Watts, and Ponce.. with Clark making final decision -- not once did he go against the suggestion from what I could tell (which again, may be bad but I haven't gone back to watch so unsure).

I'm not going to say Clark had nothing to do with this since I haven't gone back to watch it yet (and it's hard as a fan on the sidelines to pay that close of attention to the details), but if those two plays above don't happen, we win by 2 or 3 scores. And if Joey makes the right decision on the final play, Noel is literally walking in to the end zone to walk it off.

To me, this game is 100% on the red zone offense -- or lack there of. The fact we had the lead at half after 4 red zone drives and no TDs and a gift of a fumble was incredible.

You make good points but it's said EVERY SINGLE game when you are in FG range with ZERO timeouts. You can't take a sack, catch it in bounds or throw a PIC. We were in FG range and it was the coach's decision to take another shot. We all wanted the win but you have to see that pressure coming and unload it out of bounds or first and foremost kick the FG!

Right, but that pressure was expected. We knew it was coming (trust me, everybody on our sideline new they were bringing the heat on that play) which is why we called the screen we called. Again, of Joey gets it to Nate like he's supposed to, Nate has 2 guys to beat with 5 guys blocking for him. Worst case, he gets the first down. Best, and likely the case if JA makes the right read, is a walk off TD.

I'm not sure I agree with the decision instead of going for a FG, but one of the reasons why is because Wyoming figured something out on film for our kicks. After the first FG, the guard came off trying to tell the staff about something. After the 2nd FG, same guard comes off and says "told you! It's coming soon!" presumably talking about the block. They did change protection on the 3rd and 4th FGs. Not sure what happened on the block (have to back and watch) but after it, the staff was not confident calling another long FG because of what they were doing in the middle and the low trajectory of a long FG. Not excusing it, just explaining what was discussed on the sideline.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but we no longer have a dedicated special teams coach and haven't since the Satt years. Could be an oversight coming home to roost....

Last time we had a dedicated special teams coach was under Drink in 19. Having a dedicated special teams coach requires the head coach to be one of the coordinators to open up another position.

[Saint3333]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

A&M won 4 games last year
UNC is fair, but still loses. Moral victories aren’t victories
He didnt call the onside kick vs CC. The kicker admitted that he and Tucker did it on their own accord, they said it on BGP this week
ECU is terrible. does he get a star for beating another 1-3 team?

While he didn't make the call to do the kick, he did make the call to let the Hughes and Milan make that decision if they got the look they liked.

So, while it wasn't a "kick the ball to Milan" call it was a "if they give you this look, let Milan know and let's roll" call.

Actually Hughes went against the coaches on the play if you listened to the BGP last week.

[AppStateNews]

The only thing I would change based on being on the sidelines tonight is Joey to throw the perfectly setup screen to Noel at the end instead of chucking it up....

The only thing you would change? Lol

Without further review, yes. You can't go back in hindsight and change the game. If you could, it would be easy to win every game.

As of right now, that's the only thing I would change because if he does that, this conversation is already over.

[ah59396]

Brutal loss. We were the better team except for when it mattered. 1st quarter was the killer, two straight drives inside their 10 and 6 points to show for it. Defense played great aside from one big run. Wyoming never gave up and found a way to win.

Some bozo app fan in front of us was yelling about how great our win was with 12 minutes left in the 4th. Turns out you need to win all 60 minutes.

[WASU 93]

Sick. Gotta heal that broken heart. Tough one Apps. Must find a way to finish drives. Hats off to the Defense. Defense wins Championships. We can compete with anyone if we can trade field goals for extra points.

Keep in mind, Kanye Roberts scores if he doesn’t cramp up. There’s about 5 what if’s on this one.
But, our defense played lights out except for the long TD run.
Defense also shut down ECU and made Drake Maye look average. We’ve made a huge turnaround on the defensive side of the ball.
Wyoming has a great atmosphere. Hate the loss, but really enjoyed the experience

[AppStateNews]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

A&M won 4 games last year
UNC is fair, but still loses. Moral victories aren’t victories
He didnt call the onside kick vs CC. The kicker admitted that he and Tucker did it on their own accord, they said it on BGP this week
ECU is terrible. does he get a star for beating another 1-3 team?

While he didn't make the call to do the kick, he did make the call to let the Hughes and Milan make that decision if they got the look they liked.

So, while it wasn't a "kick the ball to Milan" call it was a "if they give you this look, let Milan know and let's roll" call.

Actually Hughes went against the coaches on the play if you listened to the BGP last week.

Interesting. I don't list to BGP because I can't stand AJ. Same reason I can't watch the press conferences with David Ware. I don't don't have time to listen to people talk endlessly for the sole reason of hearing themselves speak.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Same coach beat Texas A and M
Same coach has UNC down to the wire 2 straight seasons and a dropped 2 point pass wide ass open ballsy play call produces a win.
Same coach in 2021 on side kick vs CCU and energizes the crowd to win the game.
Same coach rolled over EZU last week

Clark will have another job making more money with less stress 30 minutes after you clowns decide to cut him loose.

So how do you explain all of his inexplicable losses after the games listed above?

Which games?

Shawn Clark has a 67% winning percentage through a Pandemic and an expanded SBC that has added deeper more resourceful teams/programs,

Whose your answer for the position that actually wants to stick around and work for DG and live in Boone??
Mack Brown didn't leave App State for UNC in the 80's, Mack Brown left App State to be a P5 OC at Oklahoma.
Doug couldn't get a Clemson OC to want the job when Drink left.

And before you question my 'work for DG' comment -- he and Satt zero relationship, he and Drink didn't speak once Drink started raising money for himself/program to buy gold helmets in 2019.