appstatealum wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:25 am
mike87 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:09 am
Let's talk about Clark. He's an App guy through and through, that's why I support him. He's building a blue collar, run first, inward facing player led program, that's why I support him. He's made great assistant coach hires on a limited budget, that's why I support him. He's made good use of the portal and recruits well, that's why I support him. The program is disciplined. support. He wins more than he loses, and our brand has more national recognition than ever before. support. Finally, he seems to be a genuine good guy, not a douchebag like most of the coaches he competes against. That probably explains why he gets these type threads.
I'd agree with some of your points and disagree with others. But my previous point stands- people will see and hear what they want to validate their stance. Mine is eye test, things I hear from my team sources and results.
I tend to agree with your statement. People will see what they ultimately want to see. I understand why many are so upset. That said, at this point, I don't agree with the conclusion that firing Clark is the appropriate solution. My "eye test" seems to be different than yours, and that's fine. I see this year's version of the Apps being MUCH better than last year's. Our D has played very well, although I was frustrated with the ULM game. I give ULM credit for using their bye week well and coming out with an offensive plan that was VERY different from what the film had shown before. Yes, we should have adjusted sooner but we did ultimately adjust and made key stops in the 4th quarter. That is completely unlike last year.
My frustration with these discussions is that we don't have the data to reach a conclusion. Those who are focusing on individual efforts (games) and calling for coaching changes are ignoring any statistically valid approach. Root causes this year are dissimilar to last year. All issues I've seen are coachable and appear to be getting coached. The whole "loser mentality" is a bullshit statement and is a lazy attempt to disqualify opinions that are different.
Frankly, I groaned when I saw this thread. Every thread we have this year winds up on this topic so why do we need a separate thread?
By the way, the whole "so you are willing to accept mediocrity" is another lazy and inappropriate comment in this discussion. Nobody on this board is willing to accept 6-6 as an ongoing goal. Personally, I will be extremely upset if we only win 6 or 7 games this year. I think we can do better, but I will wait to see what the actual factors are when and where we wind up at the end of the season. The "you are accepting mediocrity" is an attempt to build a straw-man argument. Imposing a hyperbolic version of the opponent's position so you can attack that instead of discussing what is actually said....that's called building a straw man.
We are all Apps. It's time we started acting like it. It's OK to have differing opinions.
P.S. I have to admit....there's one poster who claims to support Clark who makes some absolutely bizarre statements. I will not call him by name but....DAMN
