Coastal discussion

[OldAppPlayer]

One thing that’s becoming a major concern for me is how dead this team feels. I know that these kids care and that they give it their all, but they seem so unmotivated every single game, as if they know that they aren’t getting what they need in practice or in the locker room.

Even when the stadium is packed on a Tuesday night game, the team looks uninterested and lost. Once again, that’s on coaching. We’re in trouble.

Just no swagger AT ALL. That comes from coaching. Shawn Elliot may not be a great coach, and I don't think App should hire him, but even his worst years with GA State they've had an identity, a swagger, and a nastiness about them.

I want to see anybody get mad. I want to see an O lineman push somebody out of bounds and through the bench. I watched one of our guys get curb stomped by 2 CCU guys on a kick off and not a single App guy came to help. I watch our O line become nothing more than spectators on several plays. I watch it take 5 or 6 guys to bring down CCUs backs, time after time. Forget about the coaching staff for now. Do we have any players who can’t stand losing? Any guys who really want to compete? Do we have any true leaders out on the field? We have always had those guys. I don’t see them now.

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I watched the players reactions as well. It looks like we have a lot of individuals that get excited when they do something special, but not their teammates. The long pass play we had late in the game was a good example. The nearest receiver didn’t even get excited for his teammate. That’s not just on the players, you have to instill togetherness and being a team. It’s a different mentality today, it’s a “me” society. I don’t envy any coaches today trying to bring a team together. I do envy their contracts though. Lol

[BallantyneApp]

One thing that’s becoming a major concern for me is how dead this team feels. I know that these kids care and that they give it their all, but they seem so unmotivated every single game, as if they know that they aren’t getting what they need in practice or in the locker room.

Even when the stadium is packed on a Tuesday night game, the team looks uninterested and lost. Once again, that’s on coaching. We’re in trouble.

Just no swagger AT ALL. That comes from coaching. Shawn Elliot may not be a great coach, and I don't think App should hire him, but even his worst years with GA State they've had an identity, a swagger, and a nastiness about them.

I want to see anybody get mad. I want to see an O lineman push somebody out of bounds and through the bench. I watched one of our guys get curb stomped by 2 CCU guys on a kick off and not a single App guy came to help. I watch our O line become nothing more than spectators on several plays. I watch it take 5 or 6 guys to bring down CCUs backs, time after time. Forget about the coaching staff for now. Do we have any players who can’t stand losing? Any guys who really want to compete? Do we have any true leaders out on the field? We have always had those guys. I don’t see them now.

We need to fly Myquon Stout in for one of his “motivational” speeches. He might need more than a projector this time.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Specifically with the defense… you can blame it on the players being misaligned or missing assignments since they are the ones on the field BUT when that continues to happen over multiple games and multiple times each game without it getting corrected you have a coaching problem.

The Bridge from Practice to the games is the Head Coach.

Some coaches Will their team to a winning season and some coaches allow their players to lose.

Every team every sport works on same drills.

There must be carry over from Practice to Games. Defensive break downs 2 straight games.

Yes I am out of ammo and now calling it like it is.

How in the world did App State take UNC to 2 OT's????

[Mjohn1988]

One thing that’s becoming a major concern for me is how dead this team feels. I know that these kids care and that they give it their all, but they seem so unmotivated every single game, as if they know that they aren’t getting what they need in practice or in the locker room.

Even when the stadium is packed on a Tuesday night game, the team looks uninterested and lost. Once again, that’s on coaching. We’re in trouble.

Just no swagger AT ALL. That comes from coaching. Shawn Elliot may not be a great coach, and I don't think App should hire him, but even his worst years with GA State they've had an identity, a swagger, and a nastiness about them.

I want to see anybody get mad. I want to see an O lineman push somebody out of bounds and through the bench. I watched one of our guys get curb stomped by 2 CCU guys on a kick off and not a single App guy came to help. I watch our O line become nothing more than spectators on several plays. I watch it take 5 or 6 guys to bring down CCUs backs, time after time. Forget about the coaching staff for now. Do we have any players who can’t stand losing? Any guys who really want to compete? Do we have any true leaders out on the field? We have always had those guys. I don’t see them now.

I don't think any of our guys go out on the field wanting to lose. No one does. But, do they have the skill or knowledge to carry it out to victory. If they don't have skill that's poor recruiting. If they don't have knowledge that's coaching. It's not the players fault if they are in a league they can't compete in and it's not the players fault if not prepared for gametime specific situations. That's Coaching responsibility!

I’m not saying they don’t want to win but there is a difference between what it takes to win and what it takes to not want to lose. I’m really talking about a basic team identity. I think our team has a soft identity. Yes they play until the end of the game. And I’ll give credit for that effort. What I would ask is why do we need to win or try to win games on last second desperation plays? I think our players have taken on the identity of our head coach. Soft spoken, tomorrow’s another day, all our goals are still in sight.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Does a loss to ODU next week shift things for you all to a #beatOaklandCity mindset?

[T-Dog]

If that was Coastal in 2020, 2021 or 2022 they win by two-plus scores.

[AppOrange]

This is what we signed up for when we moved to FBS - hope all the folks crowing about it at the time are happy with the results.

Omg, awful take, and there are a lot on here, but this one . . .

[Bigdaddyg1]

This is what we signed up for when we moved to FBS - hope all the folks crowing about it at the time are happy with the results.

Omg, awful take, and there are a lot on here, but this one . . .

Yep about the worst. It really wasn't that long ago that we were able to watch games on PBS. The commercials were for upcoming shows of This Old House. We signed up for a significant upgrade. Big boy football is tough.

[DenverOfTheEast]

If that was Coastal in 2020, 2021 or 2022 they win by two-plus scores.

Especially if Chadwell was coaching.

I thought Beck made 3 mistakes that helped App stay close. Three 4th down calls.

McCall is good, probably playing some on Sunday's next year. We have faced 2 NFL caliber QB's through 6 games.

[311neers]

If that was Coastal in 2020, 2021 or 2022 they win by two-plus scores.

Especially if Chadwell was coaching.

I thought Beck made 3 mistakes that helped App stay close. Three 4th down calls.

McCall is good, probably playing some on Sunday's next year. We have faced 2 NFL caliber QB's through 6 games.

The ULM qb might play on Sunday's too after watching him against us.

[AppDub]

Walking back to the car I overheard a couple of students talking behind me and the quotes were

“I don’t know why everyone gets so excited, we haven’t been any good since I started here”

“That Texas a&m game was just a weird fluke”

I’m currently done with this coaching staff. I don’t care if the person has never set foot inside the town of Boone. If they win football games I want them here and it ain’t what we have right now.

I'm curious what the stadium looks like when the cold really sets in and the team is losing games. How will the athletic department continue to ask for the money they're currently demanding for Yosef Club contributions to buy season tickets, the tickets themselves.. parking passes.. etc.

At some point something has got to give..

Maybe DG leaves if that starts to happen?

This is my biggest concern. DG has been solid.

[CharlotteApp05]

I’ve seen some posts about energy and brotherhood that fall on the coaches. For energy, who is our coach that demands our players play with 110%? The Elliott, Cardwell role. That adrenaline is missing.

For brotherhood, why are we not celebrating each others success? That is the easiest way to build more confidence in the moment. We simply do our job, promote ourselves and seem to be distracted or ignorant to what our teammates do. How? Who is lifting us up? Our fan base sure thinks we stink. Someone in that locker room needs to tighten this team up.

[RaleighApp27609]

This is what we signed up for when we moved to FBS - hope all the folks crowing about it at the time are happy with the results.

Omg, awful take, and there are a lot on here, but this one . . .

I'm honestly surprised that there are still folks on this board that miss FCS

[Saint3333]

This is what we signed up for when we moved to FBS - hope all the folks crowing about it at the time are happy with the results.

I knew I'd read some terrible takes on here today, but you sir win the award for worst of the day.

Is this Denver's burner account.

[AppState80]

Snake-bit. Another great game to watch on TV and our fans were ready. Obviously the 2 over the top plays in 1st quarter, especially the 2nd, almost back to back were horrendous. Grayson McCall is not 3 time SunBelt player of year for nothing. Somewhere, someone, did not show him the respect he demands. Focus, we do not have it for entire 60 minutes of football. I know players know their assignments, yet check out at times. As many have said we get off to a slow start. I will add I did go to JMU game last season, and we lost focus when up 28-3 also, that was painful to watch sitting in stands. Bowl eligible is still possible, maybe. Go App.

[app97]

One thing that’s becoming a major concern for me is how dead this team feels. I know that these kids care and that they give it their all, but they seem so unmotivated every single game, as if they know that they aren’t getting what they need in practice or in the locker room.

Even when the stadium is packed on a Tuesday night game, the team looks uninterested and lost. Once again, that’s on coaching. We’re in trouble.

Just no swagger AT ALL. That comes from coaching. Shawn Elliot may not be a great coach, and I don't think App should hire him, but even his worst years with GA State they've had an identity, a swagger, and a nastiness about them.

I want to see anybody get mad. I want to see an O lineman push somebody out of bounds and through the bench. I watched one of our guys get curb stomped by 2 CCU guys on a kick off and not a single App guy came to help. I watch our O line become nothing more than spectators on several plays. I watch it take 5 or 6 guys to bring down CCUs backs, time after time. Forget about the coaching staff for now. Do we have any players who can’t stand losing? Any guys who really want to compete? Do we have any true leaders out on the field? We have always had those guys. I don’t see them now.

This ^
I watched the players reactions as well. It looks like we have a lot of individuals that get excited when they do something special, but not their teammates. The long pass play we had late in the game was a good example. The nearest receiver didn’t even get excited for his teammate. That’s not just on the players, you have to instill togetherness and being a team. It’s a different mentality today, it’s a “me” society. I don’t envy any coaches today trying to bring a team together. I do envy their contracts though. Lol

I haven’t recently heard or seen evidence of that “tradition, toughness, together” mantra that Clark tried when he got the job. A more fitting mantra would be “rebound (from a loss or nail biter win), rinse, repeat”.

[RaleighApp27609]

When is the last time App played a true complete game? Texas A&M?

[WataugaMan]

Bowl eligible is still possible, maybe. Go App.

I don't believe 6-6, and the Myrtle Beach Bowl with the team that just beat us in the stands is going to do it. 7-5 regular season with a bowl win (8-5) is still there, however, that would mean App would have to win 4 out of the last 6. Hope I'm wrong, but, I just don't see that happening.

[ASUTodd]

Peter Principle.

[WASU 93]

If that was Coastal in 2020, 2021 or 2022 they win by two-plus scores.

Thankfully, McCall can no longer run. If we had to deal with that option last night, they would have hit 750 yards. I honestly don't know how they totaled nearly 600 yards (with no turnovers other than the two failed 4th down conversions) and only scored 27 points.

They used motion and misdirection masterfully in the second half and that's where our defense really failed. We didn't adjust to it. They motioned a back out in the flat and instead of covering him, we blitzed off that side of the field. They motioned a receiver into the backfield, handed him the ball and he took off for positive yards. They motioned players across the field against our zone and we had two defensive backs to cover three receivers. And, they used motion to overload one side of the zone and gashed us with the tight end up the seam. Add in McCall's tuck it to the line of scrimmage and then heave it deep.....

Again, I don't have a clue how they only scored 13 points on at least 400 yards of offense AFTER the first two scoring drives.