Let's talk about Clark

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by yikas1 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:23 pm

Time after time every chance to win. Screw up after screw up. Defense breakdown over and over game after game. Not bad luck. Crappy undisciplined coaching. Sorry sorry coaching.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:24 pm

Even when it was 4th and 10, I knew we would find a way to blow it. It’s what we do.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:24 pm

I really hate this for the kids because we have some guys with both heart and talent. I hope we can hold on to these guys for 2004.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by yosef69 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:25 pm

If Shawn Clark loves app state as much as he says he would resign and forgo his buyout.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by app_gorilla » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:26 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:24 pm
I really hate this for the kids because we have some guys with both heart and talent. I hope we can hold on to these guys for 2004.
Seriously, Furman and UTC are going to be tough to beat in the SoCon.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by AppStateMtneer » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:26 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:25 pm
If Shawn Clark loves app state as much as he says he would resign and forgo his buyout.
That’s an interesting discussion topic there

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:29 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:25 pm
If Shawn Clark loves app state as much as he says he would resign and forgo his buyout.
I love App State as much as anyone, but you can claw that $1MM from my cold dead fingers. Clark has a family to support and WE signed the deal. Pay the man his buyout money and let’s get back tp it.

It’s going to suck enough. Clark is one of us. It’s like firing your brother.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by yosef69 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:30 pm

BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:29 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:25 pm
If Shawn Clark loves app state as much as he says he would resign and forgo his buyout.
I love App State as much as anyone, but you can claw that $1MM from my cold dead fingers. Clark has a family to support and WE signed the deal. Pay the man his buyout money and let’s get back tp it.

It’s going to suck enough. Clark is one of us. It’s like firing your brother.
Hey man, I wouldn’t do it either. Mostly sarcasm.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:30 pm

BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:29 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:25 pm
If Shawn Clark loves app state as much as he says he would resign and forgo his buyout.
I love App State as much as anyone, but you can claw that $1MM from my cold dead fingers. Clark has a family to support and WE signed the deal. Pay the man his buyout money and let’s get back tp it.

It’s going to suck enough. Clark is one of us. It’s like firing your brother.
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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by asu7 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:33 pm

Clark was the best option at the time of Drink’s departure. However, he has proved he can’t be head guy. I don’t think any of us hate him we just want him gone as HC. Heck he’s a great oline coach.
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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by yosef69 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:34 pm

I honestly think we need to rip the $1million bandaid off. How do you keep players from transferring with what is clearly a lame duck coach?

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:35 pm

asu7 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:33 pm
Clark was the best option at the time of Drink’s departure. However, he has proved he can’t be head guy. I don’t think any of us hate him we just want him gone as HC. Heck he’s a great oline coach.
Due to egos it won't happen but I would still love for him to stick around as OL coach for the next head coach. Shawn is a really good line coach but just not head coach material.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by asu7 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:36 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:34 pm
I honestly think we need to rip the $1million bandaid off. How do you keep players from transferring with what is clearly a lame duck coach?
This. Unfortunately with the portal and NIL money you have to act fast now. Heck you have to recruit your own team each year.
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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by yosef69 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:37 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:35 pm
asu7 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:33 pm
Clark was the best option at the time of Drink’s departure. However, he has proved he can’t be head guy. I don’t think any of us hate him we just want him gone as HC. Heck he’s a great oline coach.
Due to egos it won't happen but I would still love for him to stick around as OL coach for the next head coach. Shawn is a really good line coach but just not head coach material.
Can’t happen. There would be a loyalty problem in the locker room

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:37 pm

asu7 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:33 pm
Clark was the best option at the time of Drink’s departure. However, he has proved he can’t be head guy. I don’t think any of us hate him we just want him gone as HC. Heck he’s a great oline coach.
Really?!?
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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by T-Dog » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:38 pm

If Clark is fired, it will suck. Because it's an admission of failure. There's no celebration in that. Even when App fired Capel, Jones and Fox, it didn't feel good in the end. It's sad and depressing, even if it's the right thing to do.

Just keep that in mind. No need for celebrations.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:39 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:38 pm
If Clark is fired, it will suck. Because it's an admission of failure. There's no celebration in that. Even when App fired Capel, Jones and Fox, it didn't feel good in the end. It's sad and depressing, even if it's the right thing to do.

Just keep that in mind. No need for celebrations.
I'm not celebrating.... It sucks because we all know it means that next year will be another "off" year.... but dude couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag with both ends open and a search warrant.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by Yosefus » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:41 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:38 pm
If Clark is fired, it will suck. Because it's an admission of failure. There's no celebration in that. Even when App fired Capel, Jones and Fox, it didn't feel good in the end. It's sad and depressing, even if it's the right thing to do.

Just keep that in mind. No need for celebrations.
I agree 100%.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:42 pm

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:37 pm
asu7 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:33 pm
Clark was the best option at the time of Drink’s departure. However, he has proved he can’t be head guy. I don’t think any of us hate him we just want him gone as HC. Heck he’s a great oline coach.
Really?!?
Agreed. There was ZERO competition for him in 2019, and ZERO 3.5 years later. He had no experience, and DG and the administration panicked and made a poor choice. DG doubled down and got him paid after performing well with other coaches’ players. Honestly DG deserves a ton of heat if he waits until 12/2 to make a decision, because he struck out hard here.

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Re: Let's talk about Clark

Unread post by CharlotteApp05 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:43 pm

Agree not a time for celebrations for firing someone. But literally the day the next guy is hired you better celebrate and sell the hell out of it because that rebuild has to start quick and positive.

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