Dual Fandom?

SpeedkingATL · Unread post by **SpeedkingATL** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:16 am

Gonzo wrote:I assume the few of you that don't follow App hoops because "they don't give you much reason to follow them," are going to be absent from KBS for the rest of the season.

What a joke.

That quote was about my parents not myself. I follow the hoop program quite closely and hope that with the move to the SB we will see some improvement in the recruits we can attract and thus make a step up. I was at App during the Maravich years and if I could support the program then, I can certainly support it now.

Appftw · Unread post by **Appftw** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:43 am

MAD Doctor wrote:I don't care what other's situations or loyalties are, but if you are at APP, or on our MMB, etc...you should have the tact and common sense to keep those other teams to yourself. I might watch an Alabama-LSU game in my living room, and find myself pulling for one or the other, but I won't wear their colors or claim to be a "fan."
Both myself and my son are proud App alums, but I certainly welcome all the many others who didn't attend here to enjoy the experience with us. Our support and love for ASU unites us. The more the merrier.
But if you have bought into the Herbstreit/ESPN hype and you somehow believe that unless you are a fan of a "Power Conference" program, then you are somehow missing something, go to Wal-Mart and help yourself. Just don't come into our house wearing it or talking it.

We are APP STATE- The only North Carolina university to win an NCAA Football Championship, at ANY level.

This times 100000000000000.

This is the Mountaineer Message Board. We have a fan base and overall school pride that many universities would KILL for. And yet for some alumni, in the shadow of the ACC, that's not good enough. Dual fanship is a perfectly acceptable practice in itself, but borders on bad taste when you feel the need to advertise it on here and it doesn't reflect well on our fan base. Just my opinion.

I'm a recent graduate (May '12), and throughout my years at Appalachian, I was given incredulous looks from some fellow students after being asked who "my team" was, as if my answer of "App" wasn't satisfactory. The culture is definitely changing, but I almost get the sense that some don't want it to and prefer App to play second fiddle.

Gonzo · Unread post by **Gonzo** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:37 am

SpeedkingATL wrote:
Gonzo wrote:I assume the few of you that don't follow App hoops because "they don't give you much reason to follow them," are going to be absent from KBS for the rest of the season.

What a joke.
That quote was about my parents not myself. I follow the hoop program quite closely and hope that with the move to the SB we will see some improvement in the recruits we can attract and thus make a step up. I was at App during the Maravich years and if I could support the program then, I can certainly support it now.

I wasn't trying to call you out specifically. It's just an all-too-common excuse and it's explicitly fair weather. It was not too long ago that we had a solid squad and an electric atmosphere in the Holmes Dome. Sims sinking threes from Yosef's beard was one of the many highlights of my undergraduate career.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:10 pm

SpeedkingATL wrote:
Gonzo wrote:I assume the few of you that don't follow App hoops because "they don't give you much reason to follow them," are going to be absent from KBS for the rest of the season.

What a joke.
That quote was about my parents not myself. I follow the hoop program quite closely and hope that with the move to the SB we will see some improvement in the recruits we can attract and thus make a step up. I was at App during the Maravich years and if I could support the program then, I can certainly support it now.

One thing I will say about say about Maravich is, even though we had some bad years, he recruited the only player we had as a coach in the NBA. His name slips my mind, but I'm sure many on here can remember his name.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:11 pm

Gonzo wrote:
SpeedkingATL wrote:
Gonzo wrote:I assume the few of you that don't follow App hoops because "they don't give you much reason to follow them," are going to be absent from KBS for the rest of the season.

What a joke.
That quote was about my parents not myself. I follow the hoop program quite closely and hope that with the move to the SB we will see some improvement in the recruits we can attract and thus make a step up. I was at App during the Maravich years and if I could support the program then, I can certainly support it now.
I wasn't trying to call you out specifically. It's just an all-too-common excuse and it's explicitly fair weather. It was not too long ago that we had a solid squad and an electric atmosphere in the Holmes Dome. Sims sinking threes from Yosef's beard was one of the many highlights of my undergraduate career.

The Cremins years were great, too.

hapapp · Unread post by **hapapp** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:52 pm

Alvin Gentry. I believe he was David Thompson's cousin.

NWA49 · Unread post by **NWA49** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:39 pm

Gonzo wrote:and (B) because UNC is the oppressive mothership that stockpiles disproportionate amounts of UNC System money, actively quells the growth of every other UNC System member, gets away with any and every NCAA violation known to man, and yields some of the most arrogant alumni in the country.

Something you and I can agree on! Their alumni aren't even the worst part of it. All of their walmart fans that will happily say "we" and tout Chapel Hill academics and they didn't even go there! My hatred of the mothership trumps all others and it goes from their athletic teams all the way to their quiz bowl teams. I dislike dual fans in general (unless it is because kids go to other school I guess) - but I really don't understand anyone who goes to or graduated from a UNC system school that is a fan of Chapel Hill.

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:48 pm

NWA49 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:and (B) because UNC is the oppressive mothership that stockpiles disproportionate amounts of UNC System money, actively quells the growth of every other UNC System member, gets away with any and every NCAA violation known to man, and yields some of the most arrogant alumni in the country.
Something you and I can agree on! Their alumni aren't even the worst part of it. All of their walmart fans that will happily say "we" and tout Chapel Hill academics and they didn't even go there! My hatred of the mothership trumps all others and it goes from their athletic teams all the way to their quiz bowl teams. I dislike dual fans in general (unless it is because kids go to other school I guess) - but I really don't understand anyone who goes to or graduated from a UNC system school that is a fan of Chapel Hill.

Many ECU students/grads are really tarhole fans - just couldn't get accepted

DaphneUrquhart · Unread post by **DaphneUrquhart** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:01 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:"No, I'm not a Nick Saban fan. I'm an Alabama fan."

Come on Daphne --- Saban is a great West BY GOD Virginian!!! -

Still wouldn't buy a used car from the guy ... maybe because he used to coach at LSU

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:51 pm

DaphneUrquhart wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:"No, I'm not a Nick Saban fan. I'm an Alabama fan."

Come on Daphne --- Saban is a great West BY GOD Virginian!!! -
Still wouldn't buy a used car from the guy ... maybe because he used to coach at LSU

But he did end up ROLL TIDE!!! - Maybe you can overlook his previous mistakes

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:06 pm

I have no problem with a "Don't ask, Don't tell" approach to other school loyalties. However, I do think that it is a reasonable request for those with hate and contempt for other schools to be just as silent. There is no need for a bunch of malicious rhetoric towards one school just because you don't like them and there certainly is no need for name-calling because someone doesn't think the way you do. This is, for all intent and purposes, an opinion board where adults can discuss topics and occasionally agree to disagree. If you are not mature enough to conduct yourself thusly then this is not for you.

Finally, I would like to apologize for my behavior last night in the Price Dismissed thread. If I offended anyone then I am truly sorry. I find it inappropriate for someone to either misinterpret my post or unable to comprehend it and then have the gall to call I or anyone else names simply because they don't like our opinions.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:09 pm

Gonzo wrote: People don't take too kindly to UNC talk on the MMB (A) Because it's disrespectful to Appalachian to talk about other schools on OUR message board; and (B) because UNC is the oppressive mothership that stockpiles disproportionate amounts of UNC System money, actively quells the growth of every other UNC System member, gets away with any and every NCAA violation known to man, and yields some of the most arrogant alumni in the country.

I would imagine that point (B) can be expressed throughout any state by those that did not attend the state's flagship school.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:13 pm

AppSt94 wrote:I have no problem with a "Don't ask, Don't tell" approach to other school loyalties. However, I do think that it is a reasonable request for those with hate and contempt for other schools to be just as silent. There is no need for a bunch of malicious rhetoric towards one school just because you don't like them and there certainly is no need for name-calling because someone doesn't think the way you do. This is, for all intent and purposes, an opinion board where adults can discuss topics and occasionally agree to disagree. If you are not mature enough to conduct yourself thusly then this is not for you.

Finally, I would like to apologize for my behavior last night in the Price Dismissed thread. If I offended anyone then I am truly sorry. I find it inappropriate for someone to either misinterpret my post or unable to comprehend it and then have the gall to call I or anyone else names simply because they don't like our opinions.

" I find it inappropriate for someone to either misinterpret my post or unable to comprehend it and then have the gall to call I or anyone else names simply because they don't like our opinions."

It happens all the time on here, unfortunately, and when someone complains about it, they are called a whiner.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:19 pm

moehler wrote:Ever since I graduated from App, I have only pulled for the Mountaineers, I could careless about any other schools, but I really don't have a problem with someone graduating for App having more loyality to another school. A lot of grads are raised in a family that pulled for another school, ie: Carolina, and its in their blood to pull for that school. The only time I ever really got pissed was a couple of years ago, the people running the intermerial basketball at App, postponed the games one night, because Carolina was playing Duke, and they felt it was more important to let the students watch the Carolina/Duke game rather then doing their job, opening the gym and playing the games. They even went public and said they did the right thing. Never heard anything else about it, but I would like to believe that someone got their asses chewed out, and told if they did it again, they could go find a job in Chapel Hill.

I can understand what your saying about the intramural fiasco, but your post proves my point about the biased hatred on this board for Carolina. I am sure that this was unitentional but you mentioned that the games were cancelled so students can watch the UNC/DUKE game. Yet your final sentence only mentions Chapel Hill. There were two schools playing that night but many of the haters on here would lay blame solely on one institution (which wasn't even involved in the decision). We don't know if the person making the decision was a Carolina fan, Duke fan, or a non fan who couldn't find enough kids to ref the game. I'm not making excuses for the decision because it was absolutely the wrong thing to do, but people only see the angles that they are comfortable with complaining about. If this situation were to happen anywhere else with schools other than Carolina involved, the conversation would have gone alot differently on here.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:22 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
AppSt94 wrote:I have no problem with a "Don't ask, Don't tell" approach to other school loyalties. However, I do think that it is a reasonable request for those with hate and contempt for other schools to be just as silent. There is no need for a bunch of malicious rhetoric towards one school just because you don't like them and there certainly is no need for name-calling because someone doesn't think the way you do. This is, for all intent and purposes, an opinion board where adults can discuss topics and occasionally agree to disagree. If you are not mature enough to conduct yourself thusly then this is not for you.

Finally, I would like to apologize for my behavior last night in the Price Dismissed thread. If I offended anyone then I am truly sorry. I find it inappropriate for someone to either misinterpret my post or unable to comprehend it and then have the gall to call I or anyone else names simply because they don't like our opinions.
" I find it inappropriate for someone to either misinterpret my post or unable to comprehend it and then have the gall to call I or anyone else names simply because they don't like our opinions."

It happens all the time on here, unfortunately, and when someone complains about it, they are called a whiner.

I disagree with you and Gonzo a large majority of the time. I don't often reply, but I know that I can engage either of you in a debate that will be handled with civility without name calling.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:28 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
AppSt94 wrote:I have no problem with a "Don't ask, Don't tell" approach to other school loyalties. However, I do think that it is a reasonable request for those with hate and contempt for other schools to be just as silent. There is no need for a bunch of malicious rhetoric towards one school just because you don't like them and there certainly is no need for name-calling because someone doesn't think the way you do. This is, for all intent and purposes, an opinion board where adults can discuss topics and occasionally agree to disagree. If you are not mature enough to conduct yourself thusly then this is not for you.

Finally, I would like to apologize for my behavior last night in the Price Dismissed thread. If I offended anyone then I am truly sorry. I find it inappropriate for someone to either misinterpret my post or unable to comprehend it and then have the gall to call I or anyone else names simply because they don't like our opinions.
" I find it inappropriate for someone to either misinterpret my post or unable to comprehend it and then have the gall to call I or anyone else names simply because they don't like our opinions."

It happens all the time on here, unfortunately, and when someone complains about it, they are called a whiner.
I disagree with you and Gonzo a large majority of the time. I don't often reply, but I know that I can engage either of you in a debate that will be handled with civility without name calling.

Thank, 94.

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:01 pm

Let me give one example and I think it encompasses why some have ill-feelings for UNC-Chapel Hill ---
When our daughter was a high school senior (and had already been accepted at APP) she was invited for an in-house at UNC-CH - she wasn't all that thrilled about going but her mother convinced her it always helps to view other "situations" - There was a group of about 40/50 parents and perspective students. One of the first questions asked the group was "who has been accepted at other colleges in NC?" - from that point forward the 2 "hosts" pretty much ignored those and concentrated on the "foreign exchange students" - Finally in a group session one father continued to try to ask some questions only to be ignored or put-off. Finally he stood up and said something to the effect of "Many of us have traveled from different parts of this state to be here today only to basically ignored by you two UNC employees - We pay your salaries and I am glad our daughter will not be attending here - We are leaving, anyone else want to join us?" --- At least 20 people walked out at that point including my wife (who has a Doctoral Degree in Education) and our daughter ( a proud APP grad) --- There is an arrogance there that they are better ---
Look, Duke is a better school - UNC-CH is NOT!!!

Appftw · Unread post by **Appftw** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:04 pm

AppSt94 wrote:I have no problem with a "Don't ask, Don't tell" approach to other school loyalties. However, I do think that it is a reasonable request for those with hate and contempt for other schools to be just as silent.

First of all, no one said anything with "hate and contempt" in the Price thread. You're taking internet fan postings entirely too seriously. Fans talk junk. It's what we do. The internet was made for snarky comments to be disseminated to the public.

We're not the only fan base that abhors the Holes. I have no ill will towards them personally (I even dated one regrettably), but they're an easy target with their massive bandwagon. Of course, I envy their support, and in my mind the only way we can hope to get to their current level someday is if fans like you stop splitting your loyalties and being strangely self-conscious about pulling for App above all others. Something tells me you wouldn't get to this level of butthurt if someone disparaged Gardner-Webb or UNC Asheville. Let it go, dude. UNC sucks.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:20 pm

Appftw wrote:
AppSt94 wrote:I have no problem with a "Don't ask, Don't tell" approach to other school loyalties. However, I do think that it is a reasonable request for those with hate and contempt for other schools to be just as silent.
First of all, no one said anything with "hate and contempt" in the Price thread. You're taking internet fan postings entirely too seriously. Fans talk junk. It's what we do. The internet was made for snarky comments to be disseminated to the public.

We're not the only fan base that abhors the Holes. I have no ill will towards them personally (I even dated one regrettably), but they're an easy target with their massive bandwagon. Of course, I envy their support, and in my mind the only way we can hope to get to their current level someday is if fans like you stop splitting your loyalties and being strangely self-conscious about pulling for App above all others. Something tells me you wouldn't get to this level of butthurt if someone disparaged Gardner-Webb or UNC Asheville. Let it go, dude. UNC sucks.

Do I know you? Do you know me? What did I say that that led you to believe that I split my loyalties? I put nothing above or equal to ASU when it comes to my fandom. My problem is with people like you. One day you will learn that others have opinions that differ from you and you will be wise enough to listen before you react. I understand that fans talk junk but you made it personal by calling me and AppGrad douchebags. That crosses the line.

Appftw · Unread post by **Appftw** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:41 pm

AppSt94 wrote: Do I know you? Do you know me? What did I say that that led you to believe that I split my loyalties?

The post in question (which got deleted because you had a hissy fit all over that thread too), never included any names. You outed yourself.

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