NC State series in danger?

[BallantyneApp]

They are talking about Notre Dame coming to the rock or us going to Notre Dame.

Is this the same speculation 94 alluded to? That seems too good to be true.

It isn’t ND. Lol.

LOL there is a Mt Everest amount of difference between a middling P5 like UNC or NCSU and Notre Dame.

They are never going to any G5 for any reason with the exception of Navy. Notre Dame, more than most cares about its traditions. Thats even goign away as most of the Annapolis games are moved to neutral site facilities (but still controlled by the AAC tv contract).

And personally I doubt Notre Dame is in a big hurry to schedule Marshalls big brother after getting punked by the herd.

[ericsaid]

what a bunch of babies. They've been dodging app for almost 20 years. They're non-conference schedule has been a joke under Doren so it's not shocking they'd back out of this one. Thankfully, we're not the only program in the state that's going to get left behind. They won't get an invite to the P2.

For a long time there was no upside to NCSU playing App...they weren't good enough to sacrifice a potential win in the hunt for bowl eligibility...also the optics of a loss when they weren't that great would not have been good for Doren.

Now that they've improved some and we aren't what we were in 2019 I think it's a safer game for them.

It's also what the fans for both schools want! For God's sake give the people what they want!

How is App not who they were in 2019? I understand the record argument but SOS has gone from something like 120th to the 70's or 60's. App is probably as good as 2019, but competition is much, much better. Losing in OT to UNC who had the 3rd overall pick in the NFL Draft isn't something small.

[Bootsy]

With the ACC threatening to self-destruct, I think the Pack has bigger things to worry about than honoring their deal with App.

[kornegaylw]

what a bunch of babies. They've been dodging app for almost 20 years. They're non-conference schedule has been a joke under Doren so it's not shocking they'd back out of this one. Thankfully, we're not the only program in the state that's going to get left behind. They won't get an invite to the P2.

For a long time there was no upside to NCSU playing App...they weren't good enough to sacrifice a potential win in the hunt for bowl eligibility...also the optics of a loss when they weren't that great would not have been good for Doren.

Now that they've improved some and we aren't what we were in 2019 I think it's a safer game for them.

It's also what the fans for both schools want! For God's sake give the people what they want!

How is App not who they were in 2019? I understand the record argument but SOS has gone from something like 120th to the 70's or 60's. App is probably as good as 2019, but competition is much, much better. Losing in OT to UNC who had the 3rd overall pick in the NFL Draft isn't something small.

Good question...we very well could be as good as the 2019 team in 2024. In raw talent and physical attributes I could agree the 2024 team is as good if not better at certain positions then the 2019 team. The 2019 team had proven onfield leadership and success and there were no holes in all 3 phases of the game. From my perspective...which is all the way from Texas so take it as you will....the 2024 team has question marks about leadership (Serious quetsion...Who is/are the leader/s on Defense & Offense?), retooled OL/DLs, new DBs & young LBs. All of these areas could be non-factors come 31Aug2024 but until that time I need to see it to believe it.

If the 2024 team goes 10-1 in a similarly dominate fashion as the 2019 team did then I will whole heartedly agree with you. Untill that time the best team that suited up in the Black and Gold is the 2019 group for me.

[Saint3333]

Who are we spinning as the better home and home compared to NC State? It's going to be step "down" once you consider all the intangible that type of game brings.

[kornegaylw]

Who are we spinning as the better home and home compared to NC State? It's going to be step "down" once you consider all the intangible that type of game brings.

Obviously NC State is who everyone wants...but since you asked the question who would you like to see that wouldn't be a "step down" but would also be a tantilizing matchup for both teams?

Here's my list...G5: ECU, Memphis, Boise St, Wyoming - P5: Duke, GT, Louisville, WF, Cincy, UCF, UK, Missouri, Tenn, Vandy, Maryland,

[Saint3333]

Other than UTk all of those would be a step down from NC State. But I'd take a home and home with any of them as a consolation.

[AppinVA]

I’m sure Oregon State and Washington State have to fill out schedules.

[spacemonkey]

I would like to see San Diego St. because I need a reason to go to San Diego.

[AppSt94]

I would like to see San Diego St. because I need a reason to go to San Diego.

I’d be down for a trip to San Diego?

[AppSt94]

Other than UTk all of those would be a step down from NC State. But I'd take a home and home with any of them as a consolation.

Interesting that you think that. State hasn’t been historically better than any of those teams except for Vandy.

[kornegaylw]

Other than UTk all of those would be a step down from NC State. But I'd take a home and home with any of them as a consolation.

lol dude you are sour grapes

And who is UTk?

[Stonewall]

I’m sure Oregon State and Washington State have to fill out schedules.

You know what ? You are correct. And there is a difference between losing NC State and moving the date.

[Saint3333]

Other than UTk all of those would be a step down from NC State. But I'd take a home and home with any of them as a consolation.

lol dude you are sour grapes

And who is UTk?

No it’s an accurate statement.

[Saint3333]

Other than UTk all of those would be a step down from NC State. But I'd take a home and home with any of them as a consolation.

Interesting that you think that. State hasn’t been historically better than any of those teams except for Vandy.

You are confusing SOS with an inclusive look at the impact games have off the field.

[AppSt94]

Other than UTk all of those would be a step down from NC State. But I'd take a home and home with any of them as a consolation.

Interesting that you think that. State hasn’t been historically better than any of those teams except for Vandy.

You are confusing SOS with an inclusive look at the impact games have off the field.

I’m not confusing anything. I just found your opinion odd. You are entitled to it of course. What impact would a game with NC State, or UTk have that others would not?

[Saint3333]

Your comment is in regards to strength of opponent which would in fact be confusing the underlying sentiment what scheduling certain games means to the program.

Your question is rhetorical, similar to why would we be excited to schedule an in-state power program?

[AppSt94]

Your comment is in regards to strength of opponent which would in fact be confusing the underlying sentiment what scheduling certain games means to the program.

Your question is rhetorical, similar to why would we be excited to schedule an in-state power program?

Per usual, you are wrong in your assumption. My comment wasn’t anything other than asking why those other schools are a step down in your opinion. We aren’t replacing State with anyone. We are moving the scheduled game and replacing that previously scheduled game with a game with another opponent. Now, if you feel like we aren’t ever going to see them come up the mountain, then that is a different conversation that is based on assumption. As of now, we still have a Home and Home with State as well and an announcement of a game to replace the one moved in 2025. I’m sure that whatever the announcement, you will most undoubtedly find a reason to grouse.

[T-Dog]

Before 94 and Saint have the best sex ever together, are we under a Cryptic Adam Witten Tweet Watch (a week or two) or a Cryptic Adam Witten Tweet Warning (that day)?

[Saint3333]

Your comment is in regards to strength of opponent which would in fact be confusing the underlying sentiment what scheduling certain games means to the program.

Your question is rhetorical, similar to why would we be excited to schedule an in-state power program?

Per usual, you are wrong in your assumption. My comment wasn’t anything other than asking why those other schools are a step down in your opinion. We aren’t replacing State with anyone. We are moving the scheduled game and replacing that previously scheduled game with a game with another opponent. Now, if you feel like we aren’t ever going to see them come up the mountain, then that is a different conversation that is based on assumption. As of now, we still have a Home and Home with State as well and an announcement of a game to replace the one moved in 2025. I’m sure that whatever the announcement, you will most undoubtedly find a reason to grouse.

You attempted to say NC State wasn’t a better game than those listed in a one for one trade under the misguided concept of the only thing that matters is SOS. Now come back with a much more logical statement that moving the game back and replacing with a quality opponent is a nice consolation.

That game in 2025 will be a step down from hosting NC State, an educated assumption no doubt.

Can’t wait to play State in Raleigh first and them back out of the postponed home game in a couple of years. Straight out of the uSC playbook.

Hope I’m wrong.