The cancer on this program is

[appgrad95&97]

Doug Gillin

[appfanz]

No way.

[AppStateMtneer]

Bad take

[Yosefus]

I don't think there is a cancer. Just a whole bunch of folks wanting the alumni and one of biggest fans of the program to be successful. It has failed to the point of embarrassment. Gillen is going to follow the directions of the big donors just like any other AD to keep a job. Gillen isn't a cancer and Clark isn't the answer. My fear is even at G5 level our limitations will be the players we can afford to hire in NIL. That may actually be the cancer that is killing us.

[Bootsy]

It takes money to make money. And we don't have it.

[appgrad95&97]

I wasn't the first person to question the Clark hire in 2019, I was the ONLY person to do it. I'm telling y'all now, Doug did a great job, but now he is the problem. Say what you want. I've taken shit for my takes before.

[311neers]

Vandy just beat Bama. It can be done. Just not with a boneheaded head coach

[311neers]

I wasn't the first person to question the Clark hire in 2019, I was the ONLY person to do it. I'm telling y'all now, Doug did a great job, but now he is the problem. Say what you want. I've taken shit for my takes before.

You were not the only one…but good call.

[mountaineerman]

Everything is on the table at this point.

[BallantyneApp]

I won’t believe gillin is the problem or part of the problem unless he doubles down after this season

[mountaineerman]

This is a totally different team than App has seen in I can remember. Sad.

[appfanz]

Didn’t he hire Drink too? Was that a bad hire?

[Yosefus]

I won’t believe gillin is the problem or part of the problem unless he doubles down after this season

If Clark is head coach again next season, absolutely there will be a bunch of problems.

[Bootsy]

SO...

MAC-SBC Challenge kicks off November 4th with App hosting (the OtHer) Miami at Holmes.

[Mjohn1988]

I don't think there is a cancer. Just a whole bunch of folks wanting the alumni and one of biggest fans of the program to be successful. It has failed to the point of embarrassment. Gillen is going to follow the directions of the big donors just like any other AD to keep a job. Gillen isn't a cancer and Clark isn't the answer. My fear is even at G5 level our limitations will be the players we can afford to hire in NIL. That may actually be the cancer that is killing us.

You have to remember that we are playing peer programs. So NIL isn’t the issue when USA and Marshall beat up on us. I wouldn’t have said this a few weeks ago but I think we are making too much out of the whole NIL thing. NIL will create an even greater gap between the P4 and the G5 but it shouldn’t hurt us against Sun Belt teams.

I don’t think we have a “cancer”. Just a really good guy who isn’t working out as a head coach.

[BallantyneApp]

I don't think there is a cancer. Just a whole bunch of folks wanting the alumni and one of biggest fans of the program to be successful. It has failed to the point of embarrassment. Gillen is going to follow the directions of the big donors just like any other AD to keep a job. Gillen isn't a cancer and Clark isn't the answer. My fear is even at G5 level our limitations will be the players we can afford to hire in NIL. That may actually be the cancer that is killing us.

You have to remember that we are playing peer programs. So NIL isn’t the issue when USA and Marshall beat up on us. I wouldn’t have said this a few weeks ago but I think we are making too much out of the whole NIL thing. NIL will create an even greater gap between the P4 and the G5 but it shouldn’t hurt us against Sun Belt teams.

I don’t think we have a “cancer”. Just a really good guy who isn’t working out as a head coach.

Nice level headed post. It’s just not worked out.

The people that think that Marshall or south Alabama have some nil slush fund are completely wrong.

[Yosefus]

I don't think there is a cancer. Just a whole bunch of folks wanting the alumni and one of biggest fans of the program to be successful. It has failed to the point of embarrassment. Gillen is going to follow the directions of the big donors just like any other AD to keep a job. Gillen isn't a cancer and Clark isn't the answer. My fear is even at G5 level our limitations will be the players we can afford to hire in NIL. That may actually be the cancer that is killing us.

You have to remember that we are playing peer programs. So NIL isn’t the issue when USA and Marshall beat up on us. I wouldn’t have said this a few weeks ago but I think we are making too much out of the whole NIL thing. NIL will create an even greater gap between the P4 and the G5 but it shouldn’t hurt us against Sun Belt teams.

I don’t think we have a “cancer”. Just a really good guy who isn’t working out as a head coach.

Nice level headed post. It’s just not worked out.

The people that think that Marshall or south Alabama have some nil slush fund are completely wrong.

I agree with you both. Marshall is same boat as us, they aren't good either. I was thinking more JMU, Boise or even a TxSt coming from nowhere on the NIL part. There are G5 that will be showing up as we backslide due to lack of $$.

[kornegaylw]

I don't believe Gillin or money is the problem. Gillin has proven he can identify talent and we have something incredibly marketable and attractive on the mountain.

Id also say Clark isn't 100% the issue either...He has had to battle against poor recruiting from Drink, COVID and an expectation to succeed with returning talent since 2020. That returning talent has been increasingly supplemented with transfers. Building a team with transfers rather than the traditional way is risky. What we've seen this year is a product of all of this.

I believe we need expect our team to be built from the ground up, the Appalachian way, with players and coaches that want to be on the mountain. There is no team in the Sun Belt that has the total package like us and there's no reason we can be that way soon.

Good structures are built in strong foundations. We need to focus on the foundation right now.

[BallantyneApp]

I don't believe Gillin or money is the problem. Gillin has proven he can identify talent and we have something incredibly marketable and attractive on the mountain.

Id also say Clark isn't 100% the issue either...He has had to battle against poor recruiting from Drink, COVID and an expectation to succeed with returning talent since 2020. That returning talent has been increasingly supplemented with transfers. Building a team with transfers rather than the traditional way is risky. What we've seen this year is a product of all of this.

I believe we need expect our team to be built from the ground up, the Appalachian way, with players and coaches that want to be on the mountain. There is no team in the Sun Belt that has the total package like us and there's no reason we can be that way soon.

Good structures are built in strong foundations. We need to focus on the foundation right now.

It’s going to have to be a hybrid approach with the portal. We can’t afford to completely build the traditional way because our developing talent will be sniped by P4 teams. We have to develop some of our talent and bring in some of the talent in order to make a complete team. It’s not easy.

[kornegaylw]

I don't think there is a cancer. Just a whole bunch of folks wanting the alumni and one of biggest fans of the program to be successful. It has failed to the point of embarrassment. Gillen is going to follow the directions of the big donors just like any other AD to keep a job. Gillen isn't a cancer and Clark isn't the answer. My fear is even at G5 level our limitations will be the players we can afford to hire in NIL. That may actually be the cancer that is killing us.

You have to remember that we are playing peer programs. So NIL isn’t the issue when USA and Marshall beat up on us. I wouldn’t have said this a few weeks ago but I think we are making too much out of the whole NIL thing. NIL will create an even greater gap between the P4 and the G5 but it shouldn’t hurt us against Sun Belt teams.

I don’t think we have a “cancer”. Just a really good guy who isn’t working out as a head coach.

Nice level headed post. It’s just not worked out.

The people that think that Marshall or south Alabama have some nil slush fund are completely wrong.

I agree with you both. Marshall is same boat as us, they aren't good either. I was thinking more JMU, Boise or even a TxSt coming from nowhere on the NIL part. There are G5 that will be showing up as we backslide due to lack of $$.

JMU and TxSt are not bigger NIL hitters than us.