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Re: @ULL

Unread post by appbio91 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:30 pm

These sunbelt officials are awful, watching Southern/Marshall, they just mad a game changing mistake.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by RaleighApp27609 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:32 pm

311neers wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:29 pm
Does Gillin (or the account) actually respond to emails? About to send my 4th of the season.
He responded to an inquiry I had earlier this year.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:32 pm

ah59396 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:22 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:12 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:43 pm
I miss Taylor Lamb and Satt calling plays.
Remember all the people talking about what Taylor couldn't do? The one thing he did do was play smart, and that turned into a lot of wins.
I was one of those people. Always used to complain about his limited ability to throw a deep ball.

Absolutely the smartest qb I’ve ever seen play for us though. Consistently made good decisions and that is an incredibly underrated skill. And by god the man won football games. Great player and leader.
I will respectfully disagree....the Sunbelt is a better conference and App St. is not as good. Not sure Taylor would survive with this Oline. If joey and Kanye had that OL, we would not be talking about Taylor.
My observation is that Ponce play calling in totality is not helping us either. 14 had his best game of the season. ..and at times still did not feed him. 3rd and 8 is not the time to go long ....2 and 2 or 3 is the time. I get we need to go down field from time to time. However, it is never set up prior to the play. We had 3 drives killed due to his play calling (not including drives with TOs)...just my opinion..
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Re: @ULL

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:33 pm

RaleighApp27609 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:32 pm
311neers wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:29 pm
Does Gillin (or the account) actually respond to emails? About to send my 4th of the season.
He responded to an inquiry I had earlier this year.
Haha that’s good news, but this is no inquiry!

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:47 pm

Our defense is why we are losing but our offense is what concerns me. It is a horrible design. It is low percentage "hope" plays. We have zero chance with this offense. It is so predictable or it is a pass off Joey's back foot to a hot dog.

Zero coaching. It is sad. I hope we win a couple and make it to a bowl. I think we have the talent but just a joke of a game plan.

It is as if the coaches are scared of the players.

Our offensive plays have 5 players trying to block 8 defenders. 4 out wide with keaiden in motion amd then run with defensive ends crashing tackling from behind. It is not going to work.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by boonetown1 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:38 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:32 pm
ah59396 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:22 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:12 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:43 pm
I miss Taylor Lamb and Satt calling plays.
Remember all the people talking about what Taylor couldn't do? The one thing he did do was play smart, and that turned into a lot of wins.
I was one of those people. Always used to complain about his limited ability to throw a deep ball.

Absolutely the smartest qb I’ve ever seen play for us though. Consistently made good decisions and that is an incredibly underrated skill. And by god the man won football games. Great player and leader.
I will respectfully disagree....the Sunbelt is a better conference and App St. is not as good. Not sure Taylor would survive with this Oline. If joey and Kanye had that OL, we would not be talking about Taylor.
My observation is that Ponce play calling in totality is not helping us either. 14 had his best game of the season. ..and at times still did not feed him. 3rd and 8 is not the time to go long ....2 and 2 or 3 is the time. I get we need to go down field from time to time. However, it is never set up prior to the play. We had 3 drives killed due to his play calling (not including drives with TOs)...just my opinion..
I would honestly like to know the offensive playcalling structure. Is it all ponce? Does anyone else influence pre/in game calls or personnel adjustments?

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:48 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
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At least Stink is getting their a$$ kicked at the moment
That did not age well🤣🤣🤣
Damn, stink pulled it out
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Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:34 am

This is not what many want to hear, but I believe this was the most effort we've seen from the team in a month.
It's clear that most of these kids play really hard and they want to win. And it was also great to see some younger guys get snaps on defense.

And it's easy to say "Joey is regressing," but why is he struggling? Rarely is one reason to blame for a player's struggles. Is the scheme too complex? Is he being asked to conform to a pocket passer role when that doesn't play to his strengths? Does he feel too much responsibility to help the team win, which leads to bad decisions? Is it that preseason hype was way too high and now he feels responsible to live up to it? Maybe he's a 21-22 year old kid who has the weight of the world on him right now.

I'm not giving him an out. And I'm not trying to polish a turd. But having played and coached the game, I'm saying there can be multiple reasons why he's having a tough season.
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Re: @ULL

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:38 am

UNCConcord is 3-3.
EasyU is 3-3.
Neers 2-4.

That hurts to look at.

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Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:46 am

Bootsy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:34 am
This isn't going to make many people feel better, but I do believe this is the most effort we've seen from the team in a month.
We win the game if not for TOs
Seems we made some adjustments on D. ...or some of it may have been due to less mobile QB.
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Re: @ULL

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:23 am

Bootsy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:34 am
This is not what many want to hear, but I believe this was the most effort we've seen from the team in a month.
It's clear that most of these kids play really hard and they want to win. And it was also great to see some younger guys get snaps on defense.

And it's easy to say "Joey is regressing," but why is he struggling? Rarely is one reason to blame for a player's struggles. Is the scheme too complex? Is he being asked to conform to a pocket passer role when that doesn't play to his strengths? Does he feel too much responsibility to help the team win, which leads to bad decisions? Is it that preseason hype was way too high and now he feels responsible to live up to it? Maybe he's a 21-22 year old kid who has the weight of the world on him right now.

I'm not giving him an out. And I'm not trying to polish a turd. But having played and coached the game, I'm saying there can be multiple reasons why he's having a tough season.
Best effort all season to be honest. And we still lost to a not great ull team.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:28 am

Where was that effort @ Clemson, first quarter of ECU, all game at home versus USA and Marshall.

Season starts in September not when our backs are against the wall.

Our issues have gone from effort to situational decision making by our QB and play calling/clock mgmt.

The results unfortunately however are the same, we just give the viewer hope to watch beyond halftime.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:29 am

That ULL team was probably 7th best we’ve played against them.

8-0 pre Clark
0-4 post Clark.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:33 am

Very nice gesture from ULL playing our fight song last night. But not a nice gesture by beating us.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by Appmountaineers19 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:35 am

One thing that I’ve observed over the last couple years and maybe it’s been addressed. Why doesn’t the offense ever run pre-snap motion? I see it once or twice a game and they’re successful. But for 95% of the time they’re in a base concept that is very predictable. Using motion is the ultimate cheat code. That’s just my two cents. I just didn’t know if anybody had any insight.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by Yosefus » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:01 am

Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:35 am
One thing that I’ve observed over the last couple years and maybe it’s been addressed. Why doesn’t the offense ever run pre-snap motion? I see it once or twice a game and they’re successful. But for 95% of the time they’re in a base concept that is very predictable. Using motion is the ultimate cheat code. That’s just my two cents. I just didn’t know if anybody had any insight.
Maybe our coaches aren't smart enough to figure that out. They could possibly see this post but I'm doubting they can read very well.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:07 am

Watching replay. 4 makes really bad decisions. Beyond the TOs. Certainly poor line play is a factor but I’m about over the hype.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:10 am

Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:35 am
One thing that I’ve observed over the last couple years and maybe it’s been addressed. Why doesn’t the offense ever run pre-snap motion? I see it once or twice a game and they’re successful. But for 95% of the time they’re in a base concept that is very predictable. Using motion is the ultimate cheat code. That’s just my two cents. I just didn’t know if anybody had any insight.
It really is wild why we don’t do it. Most NFL and high level college teams motion well above 50% of the time. Watch any big football school on Saturdays.
Our system is essentially 4 wide- RPO slants, seams or in breaking dig routes. And the occasional incomplete throwaway fade to Stroman.

Also, where is the pistol? At least motion the back out of that.

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Re: @ULL

Unread post by NewApp » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:13 am

He's toast.
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Re: @ULL

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:15 am

NewApp wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:13 am
He's toast.
If you are referring to Joey, and are serious, we may have finally agreed on something.

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