"Expect staff changes"

appmaj · Unread post by **appmaj** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:02 pm

I am not familiar with the source website. How much credibility should be put in to this?

Robert Norton · Unread post by **Robert Norton** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:43 pm

I think Dozier was one of the 2 or 3 that really wanted to go to us but that was back when we waited about 5 games into their sr. season to really start recruiting players. (The old "we are ASU and you will come to us whenever we decide to offer") sickness. The recruits made friends with other recruiters and when they offered before us they took the offer. After '07 we should have beat the bushes and had some of the best O linemen in the country.

Black Saturday · Unread post by **Black Saturday** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:08 pm

moehler wrote:under normal circumstances I would agree that 2 years is enough to evaluate a coach, but this is not a typical situation, before Ledford came, we had basically 3 years of piss poor recruiting and an OL coach who couldn't get along with the players, or the coaching staff, and ran off some pretty good talent, and really didn't develop the talent we had. What I want to see from the remaining 4 games is what we saw in the GS game, if we get that kind of effort and execution from the OL, Ill be satisfied that Ledford is starting to get the results, and building a solid foundation.

Excellent observation!

App91 · Unread post by **App91** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:45 pm

My point in the post was that here was an OL that is draftable that we missed on for whatever reason. They were out there, we just did not get them

T-Dog · Unread post by **T-Dog** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:55 pm

appmaj wrote:I am not familiar with the source website. How much credibility should be put in to this?

They've broken news on our assistant coaches hiring/firings in the past.

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:19 am

App91 wrote:My point in the post was that here was an OL that is draftable that we missed on for whatever reason. They were out there, we just did not get them

91 you make a very good point - we did target some guys who chose to go elsewhere - guys who most probably could have helped us - but that happens to everyone - even Alabama --- unfortunately we don't have quite as long a "list" as the Tide

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:42 am

How horrible!!! The guy went somewhere else for academic reasons. What was he thinking

Then again it might have been that he was thinking

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:44 am

Who has been coaching linebackers for the last 5-10 years?

asutrnr81 · Unread post by **asutrnr81** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:56 am

I hope you guys hold YOSEF to the same high expectations that you do everybody else!....and produce at the level you expect others to produce....and do it with 18-22 year olds.

I am a pretty dang good at what I do today....but 33 years ago at the age of 22 I did not have a clue.

EVERYTHING worth doing well takes time.....Nothing worth while is a hAPPening....if it were, we'd all flip that switch.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:01 am

T-Dog wrote:http://footballrumormill.com/2013/10/31 ... ay-oct-31/

Nothing more than that. Not entirely unexpected due to the transition.

Here's out current coaches.

Scott Satterfield - HFC/playcaller
Nate Woody - Defensive Coordinator
Dwayne Ledford - Co-Offensive Coordinator (running game)/Offensive Line Coach
Frank Ponce - Co-Offensive Coordinator (passing game)/QB Coach
Bryan Brown - Cornerbacks Coach
Chris Foster - Running Backs Coach
Mark Ivey - Outside Linebackers/Special Teams Coach
Dale Jones - Defensive Line Coach
Scot Sloan - Recruiting Coordinator/Secondary Coach
Justin Stepp - Wide Receivers Coach
Kareem Young - Strength and Conditioning Coach

So if this is coming out weeks before the season is over, it seems some decisions have already been made.

Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.

ASUMountaineer · Unread post by **ASUMountaineer** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:07 am

JCline0429 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:http://footballrumormill.com/2013/10/31 ... ay-oct-31/

Nothing more than that. Not entirely unexpected due to the transition.

Here's out current coaches.

Scott Satterfield - HFC/playcaller
Nate Woody - Defensive Coordinator
Dwayne Ledford - Co-Offensive Coordinator (running game)/Offensive Line Coach
Frank Ponce - Co-Offensive Coordinator (passing game)/QB Coach
Bryan Brown - Cornerbacks Coach
Chris Foster - Running Backs Coach
Mark Ivey - Outside Linebackers/Special Teams Coach
Dale Jones - Defensive Line Coach
Scot Sloan - Recruiting Coordinator/Secondary Coach
Justin Stepp - Wide Receivers Coach
Kareem Young - Strength and Conditioning Coach

So if this is coming out weeks before the season is over, it seems some decisions have already been made.
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.

Is there anyone here that would have any say in those decisions? I don't think they need us to "let" them do anything, as they're the only decision-makers.

BeauFoster · Unread post by **BeauFoster** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:13 am

JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.

He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:15 am

BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.

I wan't addressing T-Dog specifically and if you read my entire D post, I mentioned WE.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:17 am

BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.

As to pointless posts, a couple hundred at least saw fit to respond to my "pointless" posts and many even gave rep points.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:19 am

ASUMountaineer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:http://footballrumormill.com/2013/10/31 ... ay-oct-31/

Nothing more than that. Not entirely unexpected due to the transition.

Here's out current coaches.

Scott Satterfield - HFC/playcaller
Nate Woody - Defensive Coordinator
Dwayne Ledford - Co-Offensive Coordinator (running game)/Offensive Line Coach
Frank Ponce - Co-Offensive Coordinator (passing game)/QB Coach
Bryan Brown - Cornerbacks Coach
Chris Foster - Running Backs Coach
Mark Ivey - Outside Linebackers/Special Teams Coach
Dale Jones - Defensive Line Coach
Scot Sloan - Recruiting Coordinator/Secondary Coach
Justin Stepp - Wide Receivers Coach
Kareem Young - Strength and Conditioning Coach

So if this is coming out weeks before the season is over, it seems some decisions have already been made.
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
Is there anyone here that would have any say in those decisions? I don't think they need us to "let" them do anything, as they're the only decision-makers.

Exactly, bit we've had several MMB'ers. past and present who have contacted the PTB in the past advocating the hiring and/or firing various individuals.
One, last Spring or summer, indicated that large donors, like himself, should have input in athletic personnel matters.

Gonzo · Unread post by **Gonzo** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:21 am

JCline0429 wrote:why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.

I think you might be missing the point of message boards in general.

BeauFoster · Unread post by **BeauFoster** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:21 am

JCline0429 wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.
As to pointless posts, a couple hundred at least saw fit to respond to my "pointless" posts and many even gave rep points.

Yet oddly enough, they didn't post about it. How refreshing.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:23 am

BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.
As to pointless posts, a couple hundred at least saw fit to respond to my "pointless" posts and many even gave rep points.
Yet oddly enough, they didn't post about it. How refreshing.

I was talking about in the PAST!!!

Appsolutely · Unread post by **Appsolutely** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:45 am

I have no idea who will be retained or shown the door; I just hope SS makes good decisions on the replacements. One bad hire can have serious consequences...as evidenced by the hiring of McClain as OL coach.

Maddog1956 · Unread post by **Maddog1956** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:02 am

JCline0429 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:http://footballrumormill.com/2013/10/31 ... ay-oct-31/

Nothing more than that. Not entirely unexpected due to the transition.

So if this is coming out weeks before the season is over, it seems some decisions have already been made.
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.

Sorry if this has been beat to death, but I think T-Dog was just posting what he saw, just like everyone else has done and which is kind of the purpose of the MMB. I don't think he was saying "we should" change our coaches.

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