"Expect staff changes"

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:30 am

Maddog1956 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:http://footballrumormill.com/2013/10/31 ... ay-oct-31/

Nothing more than that. Not entirely unexpected due to the transition.

So if this is coming out weeks before the season is over, it seems some decisions have already been made.
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
Sorry if this has been beat to death, but I think T-Dog was just posting what he saw, just like everyone else has done and which is kind of the purpose of the MMB. I don't think he was saying "we should" change our coaches.

As I said in another post, I wasn't addressing T-Dog specifically, but other posters were speculating on who was the next to go. how many years they should be given, who had done a good job. I also mentioned speculating. The only reason I posted to T- Dog in the first place was that he was the one who made the first post.
You have to read all my posts in this thread to see where I was coming from and very few have done that.

IGgreer · Unread post by **IGgreer** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:42 am

:::sees thread titled "expect staff changes":::

:::Gets excited:::

:::Remembers Charlie Cobb is still AD and will have a hand in any personnel moves:::

:::Gets sad:::

ASUMountaineer · Unread post by **ASUMountaineer** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:07 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:http://footballrumormill.com/2013/10/31 ... ay-oct-31/

Nothing more than that. Not entirely unexpected due to the transition.

Here's out current coaches.

Scott Satterfield - HFC/playcaller
Nate Woody - Defensive Coordinator
Dwayne Ledford - Co-Offensive Coordinator (running game)/Offensive Line Coach
Frank Ponce - Co-Offensive Coordinator (passing game)/QB Coach
Bryan Brown - Cornerbacks Coach
Chris Foster - Running Backs Coach
Mark Ivey - Outside Linebackers/Special Teams Coach
Dale Jones - Defensive Line Coach
Scot Sloan - Recruiting Coordinator/Secondary Coach
Justin Stepp - Wide Receivers Coach
Kareem Young - Strength and Conditioning Coach

So if this is coming out weeks before the season is over, it seems some decisions have already been made.
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
Is there anyone here that would have any say in those decisions? I don't think they need us to "let" them do anything, as they're the only decision-makers.
Exactly, bit we've had several MMB'ers. past and present who have contacted the PTB in the past advocating the hiring and/or firing various individuals.
One, last Spring or summer, indicated that large donors, like himself, should have input in athletic personnel matters.

Do the large donors have input? I think you're barking up the wrong tree here Cline...

AppinVA · Unread post by **AppinVA** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:54 pm

BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.

Rep point.

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:14 pm

bcoach wrote:Who has been coaching linebackers for the last 5-10 years?

Player development has been a staple of Jones’ tenure at Appalachian State. During his 18 seasons at Appalachian, he has coached 11 all-America defensive linemen and linebackers, including five two-time honorees. He has also mentored 19 all-conference performers that have earned the recognition a total of 31 times while four of his pupils — Josh Jeffries (2002), K.T. Stovall (2003), Jacque Roman (2008) and Jeremy Kimbrough (2012) — have been named the Southern Conference’s Defensive Player of the Year.

Twelve players that Jones has coached at Appalachian State have gone on to play in the National Football League, including four players currently in the NFL: eight-year veteran Jason Hunter (Oakland Raiders), third-year pro D.J. Smith (San Diego Chargers) and rookies Jeremy Kimbrough (Washington Redskins) and Demetrius McCray (Jacksonville Jaguars).

As a team, Appalachian State led the SoCon in interceptions twice (2011 and 2012) and also topped the league in sacks (2011), red-zone defense (2011) and third-down conversion defense (2010) during Jones’ three-year tenure as defensive coordinator.
My point was, why would we want to lose this guy as a position coach?

App91 · Unread post by **App91** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:58 pm

Bcoach not sure that we would, I am not in favor of losing him except to say we do not know what the dynamic is in coaches meetings, remember the new head guy basically demoted him. That can make for an interesting dynamic. I am NOT saying that is the case, just putting a possible reason out there.

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:31 pm

App91 wrote:Bcoach not sure that we would, I am not in favor of losing him except to say we do not know what the dynamic is in coaches meetings, remember the new head guy basically demoted him. That can make for an interesting dynamic. I am NOT saying that is the case, just putting a possible reason out there.

I agree. I hope we can keep him.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:43 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
T-Dog wrote:http://footballrumormill.com/2013/10/31 ... ay-oct-31/

Nothing more than that. Not entirely unexpected due to the transition.

Here's out current coaches.

Scott Satterfield - HFC/playcaller
Nate Woody - Defensive Coordinator
Dwayne Ledford - Co-Offensive Coordinator (running game)/Offensive Line Coach
Frank Ponce - Co-Offensive Coordinator (passing game)/QB Coach
Bryan Brown - Cornerbacks Coach
Chris Foster - Running Backs Coach
Mark Ivey - Outside Linebackers/Special Teams Coach
Dale Jones - Defensive Line Coach
Scot Sloan - Recruiting Coordinator/Secondary Coach
Justin Stepp - Wide Receivers Coach
Kareem Young - Strength and Conditioning Coach

So if this is coming out weeks before the season is over, it seems some decisions have already been made.
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
Is there anyone here that would have any say in those decisions? I don't think they need us to "let" them do anything, as they're the only decision-makers.
Exactly, bit we've had several MMB'ers. past and present who have contacted the PTB in the past advocating the hiring and/or firing various individuals.
One, last Spring or summer, indicated that large donors, like himself, should have input in athletic personnel matters.
Do the large donors have input? I think you're barking up the wrong tree here Cline...

A VERY large donor was the one who influenced Charlie Cobb to fire Houston Fancher and install a UNC-Chapel Hill grad....Jason Capel. Remember?

asu66 · Unread post by **asu66** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:54 pm

A VERY large donor was the one who influenced Charlie Cobb to fire Houston Fancher and install a UNC-Chapel Hill grad...bird-dogging the return of a certain BUZZZZZZ...closely followed by..Jason Capel. Remember?

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:01 pm

asu66 wrote:A VERY large donor was the one who influenced Charlie Cobb to fire Houston Fancher and install a UNC-Chapel Hill grad...bird-dogging the return of a certain BUZZZZZZ...closely followed by..Jason Capel. Remember?

My point is the high roller succeeded in his diabolical scheme much to our detriment. Thus far.

FWIW, Last I checked, Fancher was on Buzz's staff at UNC by the Sea along with Eddie Biedenbach or am I misremembering?.

Black Saturday · Unread post by **Black Saturday** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:10 pm

Appsolutely wrote:I have no idea who will be retained or shown the door; I just hope SS makes good decisions on the replacements. One bad hire can have serious consequences...as evidenced by the hiring of McClain as OL coach.

You are leaving other bad hires out. C'mon!

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:21 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Appsolutely wrote:I have no idea who will be retained or shown the door; I just hope SS makes good decisions on the replacements. One bad hire can have serious consequences...as evidenced by the hiring of McClain as OL coach.
You are leaving other bad hires out. C'mon!

Just curious. Could you name names?

Kgfish · Unread post by **Kgfish** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:17 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
firemoose wrote:
Kgfish wrote:Thought we lost him because he wanted to study engineering and Furman has a partnership with Clemson.
That's the same thing I was told. Who really knows but it would not be the first recruit we've lost because we didn't have the program they wanted but we've also gotten several for the same reasons. Cuts both ways.
and I also believe he wanted to stay closer to home ---

Dozier was one of 4 OL we offered in 2009. The others were a guy from Florida who told the staff he didn't like cold weather, signed with Bethune Cookman, one from Pennsylvania who said he wanted to stay close to home wound up going to an Ivy League school and Storm Moore who we offered on the Monday before signing day.

App91 · Unread post by **App91** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:05 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:
Appsolutely wrote:I have no idea who will be retained or shown the door; I just hope SS makes good decisions on the replacements. One bad hire can have serious consequences...as evidenced by the hiring of McClain as OL coach.
You are leaving other bad hires out. C'mon!

Just curious. Could you name names?

Little Mo comes to mind. Putting Brad Glenn on the playcalling committee was another

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:10 pm

App91 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:
Appsolutely wrote:I have no idea who will be retained or shown the door; I just hope SS makes good decisions on the replacements. One bad hire can have serious consequences...as evidenced by the hiring of McClain as OL coach.
You are leaving other bad hires out. C'mon!

Just curious. Could you name names?
Little Mo comes to mind. Putting Brad Glenn on the playcalling committee was another

After watching the play calling this year I have a tendency to kind of back off on the old committee as it does not look much different.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:00 pm

AppinVA wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.
Rep point.

If I was posting rep points to YOU two, you wouldn't say that. You will deny it, but what's new about that? I just like to show appreciation for posts which I consider valid? Just opinion like 99% of posts on this message board.

AppinVA · Unread post by **AppinVA** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:05 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.
Rep point.

If I was posting rep points to YOU two, you wouldn't say that. You will deny it, but what's new about that? I just like to show appreciation for posts which I consider valid? Just opinion like 99% of posts on this message board.

We must have lost. Cline's posting again.

JCline0429 · Unread post by **JCline0429** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:11 pm

AppinVA wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.
Rep point.

If I was posting rep points to YOU two, you wouldn't say that. You will deny it, but what's new about that? I just like to show appreciation for posts which I consider valid? Just opinion like 99% of posts on this message board.
We must have lost. Cline's posting again.

Duh. I post whether we win or lose and when some idiot calls me out.

ASUMountaineer · Unread post by **ASUMountaineer** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:41 am

JCline0429 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Just a suggestion, T-Dog, why don't we wait to see how the season plays out before we start advocating and speculating on specific personnel changes as some in this thread have done. So many on here seem to trust our A.D. to the ultimate, so let's let him and our Head Coach make those decisions. Again, merely a suggestion.
Is there anyone here that would have any say in those decisions? I don't think they need us to "let" them do anything, as they're the only decision-makers.
Exactly, bit we've had several MMB'ers. past and present who have contacted the PTB in the past advocating the hiring and/or firing various individuals.
One, last Spring or summer, indicated that large donors, like himself, should have input in athletic personnel matters.
Do the large donors have input? I think you're barking up the wrong tree here Cline...
A VERY large donor was the one who influenced Charlie Cobb to fire Houston Fancher and install a UNC-Chapel Hill grad....Jason Capel. Remember?

Oh, we're talking basketball now. My bad...

ASUMountaineer · Unread post by **ASUMountaineer** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:42 am

JCline0429 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:
He saw something on a website and posted it here. It's relevant to App football, and a thousand time better use of space than your countless "rep point" posts that add absolutely nothing.
Rep point.

If I was posting rep points to YOU two, you wouldn't say that. You will deny it, but what's new about that? I just like to show appreciation for posts which I consider valid? Just opinion like 99% of posts on this message board.
We must have lost. Cline's posting again.
Duh. I post whether we win or lose and when some idiot calls me out.

Calling names is juvenile and not very nice.

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