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We are only technically in the SoCon during this transition year. Shouldn't we at least START putting the SoCon schools in the past? I couldn't care less if they drew a thousand or 30,000 in their home venues as long as we are near overflow at our house. Admittedly, that's just me.
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Okay.JCline0429 wrote:We are only technically in the SoCon during this transition year. Shouldn't we [at least b]start[/b] putting the SoCon in the past and quit comparing ourselves to the SoCon.?
(capacity) Season average; percent capacity
Arkansas State
Liberty Bank Stadium (30,964) 26,398 85.3%
Florida Atlantic
FAU Stadium (30,000) 13,459 44.9%
Florida International
FIU Stadium (23,500) 13,634 58.0%
Louisiana–Lafayette
Cajun Field (31,000) 22,865 73.8%
Louisiana–Monroe
Malone Stadium (30,427) 19,359 63.6%
Middle Tennessee
Johnny "Red" Floyd Stadium (30,788) 7,738 57.6%
North Texas
Apogee Stadium (30,850) 18,927 61.4%
South Alabama
Ladd Peebles Stadium (33,471) 16,793 50.2%
Troy
Veterans Memorial Stadium (30,000) 20,952 69.8%
Western Kentucky
Houchens Industries – L. T. Smith Stadium (22,000) 17,415 79.2%
I know everyone is disappointed but iffy weather, late season, this season. I'll take it.
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Apptiger wrote:Okay.JCline0429 wrote:We are only technically in the SoCon during this transition year. Shouldn't we [at least b]start[/b] putting the SoCon in the past and quit comparing ourselves to the SoCon.?
(capacity) Season average; percent capacity
Arkansas State
Liberty Bank Stadium (30,964) 26,398 85.3%
Florida Atlantic
FAU Stadium (30,000) 13,459 44.9%
Florida International
FIU Stadium (23,500) 13,634 58.0%
Louisiana–Lafayette
Cajun Field (31,000) 22,865 73.8%
Louisiana–Monroe
Malone Stadium (30,427) 19,359 63.6%
Middle Tennessee
Johnny "Red" Floyd Stadium (30,788) 7,738 57.6%
North Texas
Apogee Stadium (30,850) 18,927 61.4%
South Alabama
Ladd Peebles Stadium (33,471) 16,793 50.2%
Troy
Veterans Memorial Stadium (30,000) 20,952 69.8%
Western Kentucky
Houchens Industries – L. T. Smith Stadium (22,000) 17,415 79.2%
I know everyone is disappointed but iffy weather, late season, this season. I'll take it.
Read my edit, I was editing my post while you were writing your post. It's interesting that we have been averaging over our seating capacity the last several years and every single Saturday wasn't beautiful weather. I just hope that all the seats were sold today whether the buyers showed up or not. Going forward, we are going to need every single red cent we can get.
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Amen on the sold. We are going to need as much money as we can muster.
Edit- I am encouraged as we could lead our new in attendance the first year.
Note- Wikipedia was my source so who knows if it is accurate.
Edit- I am encouraged as we could lead our new in attendance the first year.
Note- Wikipedia was my source so who knows if it is accurate.
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During the Sunbelt press conference, Peacock and Cobb promised a Sunbelt move would not be financed on the backs of students or program cuts, correct? We are a big time hot mess.
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Mmm kay.HappyHippie wrote:During the Sunbelt press conference, Peacock and Cobb promised a Sunbelt move would not be financed on the backs of students or program cuts, correct? We are a big time hot mess.
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I was part of the 17,000 or so in attendance today. Keep drinking the kool-aid friend.
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attendance at Georgia Southern was only around 12,000, tickets sold, from what I have read, probably alot less, students were nonexistent, alot of people left early to go watch the Georgia/Florida game. Not good
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Mmm kay.HappyHippie wrote:I was part of the 17,000 or so in attendance today. Keep drinking the kool-aid friend.
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There were not that many butts in seats today but as long as we out drew our JV conference peers we're good, right?ASU-FTW wrote:18,991. Still better than everyone else in the SoCon.
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Yep, attendance @ Paulson was bad. I had figured on 13K before the game ... some of my friends thought I was crazy but w/ the early start time (1pm, short time to tailgate), a good start to the season turning south quickly, competition with the Ga-Fla game and getting curbstomped by you guys last week ... I saw it coming a mile away.
One other factor has been that this year we instituted a ticket pickup policy for the students to assist w/ seating (limited during this year of construction), but the product has been limiting in and of itself. That has caused a few issues as well.
The completely ironic thing is of course we too have the folks coming out proclaiming it to be the end of our program as we know it .. those same folks tend to forget some of the games during our best years where we had 13K in the stands vs. VMI and ETSU.
One other factor has been that this year we instituted a ticket pickup policy for the students to assist w/ seating (limited during this year of construction), but the product has been limiting in and of itself. That has caused a few issues as well.
The completely ironic thing is of course we too have the folks coming out proclaiming it to be the end of our program as we know it .. those same folks tend to forget some of the games during our best years where we had 13K in the stands vs. VMI and ETSU.
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appbio91 wrote:There were not that many butts in seats today but as long as we out drew our JV conference peers we're good, right?ASU-FTW wrote:18,991. Still better than everyone else in the SoCon.
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I'd say 19,000 to watch a 2-7 team playing in cold weather is pretty good. I'm curious as to what the point of all of this is. Its seems the folks that wanted us to stay in FCS can now see first hand what the result is when you don't win every home game in this division. Or is it perhaps that this performance slide occurred BEFORE we moved up and it adversely affected attendance it takes the steam away from the arguments they were storing for next year?
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The point, as I see it, is that neither App or Georgia Southern needed this kind of season as a lead-in to our first FBS season. There was nowhere near 19,000 in KBS today. I've seen similar crowds for playoff games announced in the 14k range. I'd say there might have been 16,000.GoAppsGo92 wrote:appbio91 wrote:There were not that many butts in seats today but as long as we out drew our JV conference peers we're good, right?ASU-FTW wrote:18,991. Still better than everyone else in the SoCon.
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I'd say 19,000 to watch a 2-7 team playing in cold weather is pretty good. I'm curious as to what the point of all of this is. Its seems the folks that wanted us to stay in FCS can now see first hand what the result is when you don't win every home game in this division. Or is it perhaps that this performance slide occurred BEFORE we moved up and it adversely affected attendance it takes the steam away from the arguments they were storing for next year?
I'm not ready to call it a problem yet, but the potential for a problem certainly exists.
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This is actually pretty funny. I have been saying for years in the FBS/FCS debates that were on this board and the former MMB that we live in "the rarest of air" in the FCS. A historic combination of conditions starting with the growing, young alumni base... the decision to have 3:30 kicks, and then, of course the unheard of success starting back in the 2005 season and culminating in the 2007 win at Michigan and the 3rd national championship.
The folks somehow assumed that we'd always be king, and the dynasty lasted for a long time until about 2010, when the slide began. FCS football is a product that draws 10k every Saturday... Proven. Fact. We lived above that average for 20 years, and way, way above it for the last 8 years. 30k to watch App play Mars Hill? Come on. When it came to FCS attendance... to say we are an anomaly would be an understatement... we are a freak show.
It's natural for fans to find better things to do than drive 2-3 hours each way to watch a 2-7 team especially in a division that averages less than 10k at a ball game... but we somehow think it is a crisis. And to think that some would use this argument to somehow question the wisdom of the decision to move to FBS football just seems utterly jaded and spiteful. Our course is set gentlemen. Seeing it for what it is steals away the argument for next year, I know, but I have a lot more faith than some that this program will respond well as we progress, and the fans will too.
The folks somehow assumed that we'd always be king, and the dynasty lasted for a long time until about 2010, when the slide began. FCS football is a product that draws 10k every Saturday... Proven. Fact. We lived above that average for 20 years, and way, way above it for the last 8 years. 30k to watch App play Mars Hill? Come on. When it came to FCS attendance... to say we are an anomaly would be an understatement... we are a freak show.
It's natural for fans to find better things to do than drive 2-3 hours each way to watch a 2-7 team especially in a division that averages less than 10k at a ball game... but we somehow think it is a crisis. And to think that some would use this argument to somehow question the wisdom of the decision to move to FBS football just seems utterly jaded and spiteful. Our course is set gentlemen. Seeing it for what it is steals away the argument for next year, I know, but I have a lot more faith than some that this program will respond well as we progress, and the fans will too.
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What's really funny is trying to spin this into some sort of FCS debate. This has absolutely nothing to do with FCS or FBS. We are going to FBS and we needed a good start to that transition. There are a ton of FBS programs around the country that draw less than 15,000 per game. There is also a nationwide trend of declining attendance. Proven. Fact. To have a season like this that gives people a reason, whatever it is, to get used to not coming to games is not the foundation we needed to lay. You're creating strawmen to try to avoid the fact that this COULD become a problem. As I said, I'm not ready to call it a problem yet, but to ignore the possibility is to have your head in the sand.GoAppsGo92 wrote:This is actually pretty funny. I have been saying for years in the FBS/FCS debates that were on this board and the former MMB that we live in "the rarest of air" in the FCS. A historic combination of conditions starting with the growing, young alumni base... the decision to have 3:30 kicks, and then, of course the unheard of success starting back in the 2005 season and culminating in the 2007 win at Michigan and the 3rd national championship.
The folks somehow assumed that we'd always be king, and the dynasty lasted for a long time until about 2010, when the slide began. FCS football is a product that draws 10k every Saturday... Proven. Fact. We lived above that average for 20 years, and way, way above it for the last 8 years. 30k to watch App play Mars Hill? Come on. When it came to FCS attendance... to say we are an anomaly would be an understatement... we are a freak show.
It's natural for fans to find better things to do than drive 2-3 hours each way to watch a 2-7 team especially in a division that averages less than 10k at a ball game... but we somehow think it is a crisis. And to think that some would use this argument to somehow question the wisdom of the decision to move to FBS football just seems utterly jaded and spiteful. Our course is set gentlemen. Seeing it for what it is steals away the argument for next year, I know, but I have a lot more faith than some that this program will respond well as we progress, and the fans will too.
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It has to do with wins and losses. No spin here. You can say there are a ton of FBS schools with 15k averages and I will give you that, but I can also show you tons of FCS teams that average 3k or less... last time I checked, that's a 12k difference worst to worst. I'm not saying that there COULD be an attendance problem, I saying that what we are seeing is totally normal given the performance on the field... not a crisis. I find it funny... the attempt to worry about "the foundation we need to lay for our transition" as if there is any linkage. If we win, they come, if we don't, they don't... but I'd rather have 15k in 1-11 season than 3k wouldn't you? We came back to earth at the right time, in my opinion. Plenty of stuff to work on the rest of the year and during the off-season that will have a renewed sense of urgency as we enter our first year as an FBS team.appst89 wrote:What's really funny is trying to spin this into some sort of FCS debate. This has absolutely nothing to do with FCS or FBS. We are going to FBS and we needed a good start to that transition. There are a ton of FBS programs around the country that draw less than 15,000 per game. There is also a nationwide trend of declining attendance. Proven. Fact. To have a season like this that gives people a reason, whatever it is, to get used to not coming to games is not the foundation we needed to lay. You're creating strawmen to try to avoid the fact that this COULD become a problem. As I said, I'm not ready to call it a problem yet, but to ignore the possibility is to have your head in the sand.GoAppsGo92 wrote:This is actually pretty funny. I have been saying for years in the FBS/FCS debates that were on this board and the former MMB that we live in "the rarest of air" in the FCS. A historic combination of conditions starting with the growing, young alumni base... the decision to have 3:30 kicks, and then, of course the unheard of success starting back in the 2005 season and culminating in the 2007 win at Michigan and the 3rd national championship.
The folks somehow assumed that we'd always be king, and the dynasty lasted for a long time until about 2010, when the slide began. FCS football is a product that draws 10k every Saturday... Proven. Fact. We lived above that average for 20 years, and way, way above it for the last 8 years. 30k to watch App play Mars Hill? Come on. When it came to FCS attendance... to say we are an anomaly would be an understatement... we are a freak show.
It's natural for fans to find better things to do than drive 2-3 hours each way to watch a 2-7 team especially in a division that averages less than 10k at a ball game... but we somehow think it is a crisis. And to think that some would use this argument to somehow question the wisdom of the decision to move to FBS football just seems utterly jaded and spiteful. Our course is set gentlemen. Seeing it for what it is steals away the argument for next year, I know, but I have a lot more faith than some that this program will respond well as we progress, and the fans will too.
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GoAppsGo92 wrote:appbio91 wrote:There were not that many butts in seats today but as long as we out drew our JV conference peers we're good, right?ASU-FTW wrote:18,991. Still better than everyone else in the SoCon.
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I'd say 19,000 to watch a 2-7 team playing in cold weather is pretty good. I'm curious as to what the point of all of this is. Its seems the folks that wanted us to stay in FCS can now see first hand what the result is when you don't win every home game in this division. Or is it perhaps that this performance slide occurred BEFORE we moved up and it adversely affected attendance it takes the steam away from the arguments they were storing for next year?
Obviously If we go 2-7 in the Belt it will have similar results. However, I don't expect us to do hat
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