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[Stonewall]

Clark didn’t seem too concerned in his post game interview. Frankly not concerned at all. Maybe we don’t have $500k. If not we don’t need to be FBS.

[appgrad95&97]

He won three of the last five. Seriously, this is what we signed on for when he was hired. I didn't expect basically two loosing seasons in five. But seriously, there was never a reason to expect much when he was hired. Being an App guy is not a qualification, its a plus, but its not a qualification. I'm sorry it's turning out this way, but there were signs from the beginning

[Pikapp79]

He won three of the last five. Seriously, this is what we signed on for when he was hired. I didn't expect basically two loosing seasons in five. But seriously, there was never a reason to expect much when he was hired. Being an App guy is not a qualification, its a plus, but its not a qualification. I'm sorry it's turning out this way, but there were signs from the beginning

Yep, a lot of us thought this was a lazy hire due to being spooked coaches would come and go. We are getting exactly what we signed up for. The administration may be happy with this until attendance and donations start falling. Expect that next season if the lazy decision still stands.

[8993]

He won three of the last five. Seriously, this is what we signed on for when he was hired. I didn't expect basically two loosing seasons in five. But seriously, there was never a reason to expect much when he was hired. Being an App guy is not a qualification, its a plus, but its not a qualification. I'm sorry it's turning out this way, but there were signs from the beginning

Unfortunately, I think Doug will seeing ‘winning three of the last five’ as enough reason to keep SC for another season. God bless the 2025 staff and players, as we’re in for a rough one.

[ah59396]

He won three of the last five. Seriously, this is what we signed on for when he was hired. I didn't expect basically two loosing seasons in five. But seriously, there was never a reason to expect much when he was hired. Being an App guy is not a qualification, its a plus, but its not a qualification. I'm sorry it's turning out this way, but there were signs from the beginning

Unfortunately, I think Doug will seeing ‘winning three of the last five’ as enough reason to keep SC for another season. God bless the 2025 staff and players, as we’re in for a rough one.

Will be interesting to see how the fanbase reacts if we lose to UNCC in Bank of America Stadium to start next season. Because then we’ve got an FCS team, @ Boise State, and then Oregon State.

Our 2025 season could be over before it starts.

[704App]

FWIW, I was just told by someone I feel is generally in the know that nobody was willing to put up the $500k before the game. The result might have changed that, but the perception for them is they are still looking for the $$$. If nobody/nobodies fork it up, expect Clark to be coach with a change in staff.

[BambooRdApp]

I don’t mind the FG with 20 to go. Hughes hasn’t missed all year. Had to score twice. The other calls were foolish.

I agree. Needed two scores. Get one quick and you know left on the clock before a hail mary...if my fantasy would have played out

[AppBox]

He won three of the last five. Seriously, this is what we signed on for when he was hired. I didn't expect basically two loosing seasons in five. But seriously, there was never a reason to expect much when he was hired. Being an App guy is not a qualification, its a plus, but its not a qualification. I'm sorry it's turning out this way, but there were signs from the beginning

Unfortunately, I think Doug will seeing ‘winning three of the last five’ as enough reason to keep SC for another season. God bless the 2025 staff and players, as we’re in for a rough one.

Had to win 3 of the last 5 to wind up with the 10th best conference record in the Sun Belt.
I guess they could also say he's a top 10 coach.

[MrCraig]

My question for the folks that say there’s not enough money or boosters are happy and/or not willing to pay the buyout: what about the current landscape of college football makes you think we DON’T need to make a change?

The only way admin would be happy is if there was lots of money coming in, and if there’s lots of money coming in, then a $500k buyout shouldn’t be that big of a problem, right?

Do these people not know how any of this works or are the posters on this site liars/ horribly misinformed?

[fjblair]

If they think $500k is prohibitive, wait for the revenue stream to take a big hit due to an apathetic and angry fan base. $500k will look like a bargain.

[spacemonkey]

We could demote him and leave him on staff and bring in a new coach. We don't have to let him go. Maybe that is the plan. Hire an offensive coordinator with the knowledge if successful he will be head coach the next year. We don't pay Clark the 500,000 and we give the coach in waiting a year to get to work on building the next team.

I could be happy with a decision like that.....but for God sake get a coach that understands coaching football. You have to be able to think and create an edge/advantage for the talent your players are lacking.

[AppDub]

We could demote him and leave him on staff and bring in a new coach. We don't have to let him go. Maybe that is the plan. Hire an offensive coordinator with the knowledge if successful he will be head coach the next year. We don't pay Clark the 500,000 and we give the coach in waiting a year to get to work on building the next team.

I could be happy with a decision like that.....but for God sake get a coach that understands coaching football. You have to be able to think and create an edge/advantage for the talent your players are lacking.

Hard to lead a team with split loyalties. I think you either have to fish with the man you have or cut bait.

[BambooRdApp]

We could demote him and leave him on staff and bring in a new coach. We don't have to let him go. Maybe that is the plan. Hire an offensive coordinator with the knowledge if successful he will be head coach the next year. We don't pay Clark the 500,000 and we give the coach in waiting a year to get to work on building the next team.

I could be happy with a decision like that.....but for God sake get a coach that understands coaching football. You have to be able to think and create an edge/advantage for the talent your players are lacking.

Hard to lead a team with split loyalties. I think you either have to fish with the man you have or cut bait.

When, in history, has a coach been fired and then retained in a demotion on the coaching staff? Genuinely curious. I cannot recall one. I would think it creates potential locker room issues... loyalty to previous coach. ..concerns around undermining new coach...not saying would happen intentionally...but could happen.
If I am the new coach, I would never sign up for that.

[spacemonkey]

Clark works for Doug....I think. If Doug says answer the phones in the ticket office as "head coach", that is what Clark will do.

[AppSt94]

My question for the folks that say there’s not enough money or boosters are happy and/or not willing to pay the buyout: what about the current landscape of college football makes you think we DON’T need to make a change?

The only way admin would be happy is if there was lots of money coming in, and if there’s lots of money coming in, then a $500k buyout shouldn’t be that big of a problem, right?

Do these people not know how any of this works or are the posters on this site liars/ horribly misinformed?

I don’t think that boosters being happy or not is the question. No one is happy with the on field results. There is frustration but that doesn’t equate to moving on. This is a business and those with the pockets deep enough to make a difference will look at it as a business and ask the right folks the right questions. Fans are reacting with their hearts and that’s understandable. But that’s not how this gets resolved and fixed.

[EastHallApp]

We could demote him and leave him on staff and bring in a new coach. We don't have to let him go. Maybe that is the plan. Hire an offensive coordinator with the knowledge if successful he will be head coach the next year. We don't pay Clark the 500,000 and we give the coach in waiting a year to get to work on building the next team.

I could be happy with a decision like that.....but for God sake get a coach that understands coaching football. You have to be able to think and create an edge/advantage for the talent your players are lacking.

Hard to lead a team with split loyalties. I think you either have to fish with the man you have or cut bait.

When, in history, has a coach been fired and then retained in a demotion on the coaching staff? Genuinely curious. I cannot recall one. I would think it creates potential locker room issues... loyalty to previous coach. ..concerns around undermining new coach...not saying would happen intentionally...but could happen.
If I am the new coach, I would never sign up for that.

Yeah that's a fantasy scenario that obviously isn't going to happen here or anywhere else.

[KentHogan]

I don’t think that Clark is going to be fired as I have said before. He may resign, but I don’t think that he will be fired. $500k doesn’t sound like a lot to some of ya’ll but it is and we don’t have it to throw around. I expect some changes going forward and yes those are probably coaches and coordinators. To 95&97’s point, that in and of itself becomes problematic as the attrition of staff over the years has caused some of this. So changing it out again isn’t ideal.

My point is that this is a business decision and you don’t throw $500k around if it doesn’t guarantee a solution.

Well, if we don’t have the financial ability to fire a coach, then I seriously doubt we have the financial ability to compete in today’s game.

If that’s the case, we’re likely doomed to mediocrity no matter the head coach.

Sure, throwing around 500k is serious business, but so is paying Clark to hang around another year considering the current direction of the program and his overall body of work, which I would argue isn’t nearly good enough to justify another year as head coach.

We’re about to find out how serious the Athletic Department, the university and large donors are about winning.

Have a good one!

[AppSt12]

Only a fool could not have seen what clark would do to this program after 2022. He had so many 4-6 year seniors (and far more talented ones than he would go on to recruit) and went 6-6. He is responsible for our first ever bowl loss, only had winning seasons 50% of the time and has 0 conference titles.

Simarly...only a fool would think we can stay competitive in FBS football if we cant afford 500k. If thats the case we might as well throw the dream away and pull an Idaho and go back to fcs and be content with small local football with furman and western carolina.

[PhillyApp1]

Only a fool could not have seen what clark would do to this program after 2022. He had so many 4-6 year seniors (and far more talented ones than he would go on to recruit) and went 6-6. He is responsible for our first ever bowl loss, only had winning seasons 50% of the time and has 0 conference titles.

Simarly...only a fool would think we can stay competitive in FBS football if we cant afford 500k. If thats the case we might as well throw the dream away and pull an Idaho and go back to fcs and be content with small local football with furman and western carolina.

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[MrCraig]

Fun Fact: The lowest payout to a bowl winner is $300k for the Camelia Bowl. If Shawn Clark had won the two bowl games he missed, and won the one bowl game he lost, the athletic department would have more than enough money to pay his buyout. Then again, with three more bowl wins, they might not need to fire him.