Realistic coaching options for 2025...

[ASUTodd]

Still white smoke coming from the steam plant tower I assume?

[MrCraig]

I’m hearing from reliable sources that Connor Coker is the pivotal figure in this search. His EQ manager skills go beyond our capabilities and understanding.

I have no idea what any of that means

That's because it goes beyond our capabilities.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

[EastHallApp]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

[yosef69]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

Your last paragraph sounds nice in a vacuum but anyone with an ounce of intelligence or curiosity can look at the trends, look at his record with his own recruits, look at his .500 sun belt record, look at the ending of the Georgia southern game, etc and see that it needed to be done.

Head coaching candidates would not be as willfully ignorant as that last paragraph.

[t4pizza]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

[yosef69]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

I don’t believe it for a second. Everyone could see the slide and it was getting worse.

If it is true, DG is doing an awful job explaining to candidates why the opening exists.

[t4pizza]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

I don’t believe it for a second. Everyone could see the slide and it was getting worse.

If it is true, DG is doing an awful job explaining to candidates why the opening exists.

I haven't said he didn't deserve to be fired, sadly he did. But I think some coaches can and will be scared off by that. Again, not the coaches we want or need to lead our program.

[ericsaid]

Some ETSU guy on the Sun Belt board is hearing it's Neal Brown and that it will be announced tomorrow.

Ironic, because I wanted Tre Lamb, that an ETSU person would suggest it's Brown. I think Brown could at least retain Hopper, Donald, and Collins.

[ASUFan4863]

Hopper is gone gone from what everyone has said. He’s getting paid and we can’t match that.

[RaleighApp27609]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

Your last paragraph sounds nice in a vacuum but anyone with an ounce of intelligence or curiosity can look at the trends, look at his record with his own recruits, look at his .500 sun belt record, look at the ending of the Georgia southern game, etc and see that it needed to be done.

Head coaching candidates would not be as willfully ignorant as that last paragraph.

Thank you for calling this out. It feels like a small minority needs this reminder.

[appstatealum]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

What a comment. I'm just going to believe you are being emotional and sharing your personal feelings. CFB is a results driven business and noone can argue that Clark didn't fumble the bag. Any coach that wouldn't want to come here because we fired a coach who was sliding down the mountain into mediocrity is no coach I want leading the program, and frankly, I'd question their ability to lead a McDonalds fryer line if that's their mindset.

[ericsaid]

Hopper is gone gone from what everyone has said. He’s getting paid and we can’t match that.

It could be matched, it just won't be. People with money not willing to do what is done at the big schools.

I have still not heard what the kickback is to private donors to college athletics. Like, what do you get in exchange? Is it a hobby? Where is the ROI?

I learned something the other day when looking in on corruption in the U.S.. We live in an oligarchical society and that is ignored. Laws have been made that effectively legalizes corruption, so those in charge can say "look, I'm not breaking any bribery laws". What we are witnessing is legalized, and institutionalized oligarchical behavior that borders on criminal, and no one will address it.

Why? These are public institutions, funded by public monies. They are state universities. These are not corporations. These are not LLC's.

All financial donations to a program should be open for public consumption when it involves a public university, period. Failure to do so should be a crime by both the University and the donating individual.

[ericsaid]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

What a comment. I'm just going to believe you are being emotional and sharing your personal feelings. CFB is a results driven business and noone can argue that Clark didn't fumble the bag. Any coach that wouldn't want to come here because we fired a coach who was sliding down the mountain into mediocrity is no coach I want leading the program, and frankly, I'd question their ability to lead a McDonalds fryer line if that's their mindset.

I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it. He will be gone by the next time there is an opening and I would hate to sit here three years from now and go "I told you so".

That's exactly what I'll be doing though so I may as well add this to my profile. Texas State hired GJ Kinne and it worked out for them, quickly. App is starting from a much higher point of reference than Texas State was.

If DG hasn't already hired Brown, hire Lamb.

[yosef69]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

What a comment. I'm just going to believe you are being emotional and sharing your personal feelings. CFB is a results driven business and noone can argue that Clark didn't fumble the bag. Any coach that wouldn't want to come here because we fired a coach who was sliding down the mountain into mediocrity is no coach I want leading the program, and frankly, I'd question their ability to lead a McDonalds fryer line if that's their mindset.

I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it. He will be gone by the next time there is an opening and I would hate to sit here three years from now and go "I told you so".

That's exactly what I'll be doing though so I may as well add this to my profile. Texas State hired GJ Kinne and it worked out for them, quickly. App is starting from a much higher point of reference than Texas State was.

If DG hasn't already hired Brown, hire Lamb.

Holy shit, we get it. You want Tre Lamb. Are you dating him or something?

[AppSt94]

With the acknowledgment up front that I have zero firsthand knowledge of any of this, I am going to say that I do not believe any top-tier candidates declined to pursue our job because they think it wasn't fair to fire Clark.

Why would you think that? I mean most schools would be very very happy with what we have had under Clark (NOT saying we should be at all because that is not our standard) and all football coaches KNOW how hard it is to win football games. So why be surprised that some coaches would stay away from an opportunity if they see that even and alum will get fired if he doesn't win at a very high level? It makes complete sense to me. That being said, I don't want a coach that is afraid of maintaining our standard.

Agree. Adding that uprooting your family to come here knowing the leash might be short is a red flag.

[Saint3333]

How does a poster make a potential coach about themselves? Strange.

[ericsaid]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

What a comment. I'm just going to believe you are being emotional and sharing your personal feelings. CFB is a results driven business and noone can argue that Clark didn't fumble the bag. Any coach that wouldn't want to come here because we fired a coach who was sliding down the mountain into mediocrity is no coach I want leading the program, and frankly, I'd question their ability to lead a McDonalds fryer line if that's their mindset.

I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it. He will be gone by the next time there is an opening and I would hate to sit here three years from now and go "I told you so".

That's exactly what I'll be doing though so I may as well add this to my profile. Texas State hired GJ Kinne and it worked out for them, quickly. App is starting from a much higher point of reference than Texas State was.

If DG hasn't already hired Brown, hire Lamb.

Holy shit, we get it. You want Tre Lamb. Are you dating him or something?

Could be. If he had a better job. You never know man. Keep your options open.

No one here is actively discussing options. You all are doing what APP STATE FANS DO BEST...get pissy with each other. You are continuing that sentiment here.

Now PAY THE MAN.

[ericsaid]

How does a poster make a potential coach about themselves? Strange.

By my count, there are about 19 here doing that by taking information that they glean from behind a paywall, and bring it over here just to gloat about that they know something. It's almost as if their Dad didn't give them enough pats on the head when they were a child.

[AppSt94]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

What a comment. I'm just going to believe you are being emotional and sharing your personal feelings. CFB is a results driven business and noone can argue that Clark didn't fumble the bag. Any coach that wouldn't want to come here because we fired a coach who was sliding down the mountain into mediocrity is no coach I want leading the program, and frankly, I'd question their ability to lead a McDonalds fryer line if that's their mindset.

I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it. He will be gone by the next time there is an opening and I would hate to sit here three years from now and go "I told you so".

That's exactly what I'll be doing though so I may as well add this to my profile. Texas State hired GJ Kinne and it worked out for them, quickly. App is starting from a much higher point of reference than Texas State was.

If DG hasn't already hired Brown, hire Lamb.

Holy shit, we get it. You want Tre Lamb. Are you dating him or something?

Maybe Tre covets Baldwin Gillis and he wants to get the band back together.