Realistic coaching options for 2025...

[BeauFoster]

There may be no realistic coaching options for 2025, considering the treatment of one of our own...

Some would argue he gave us poor treatment for destroying the Ferrari

He didn’t destroy it, but he sure slacked off on maintenance and maybe hit a mailbox or two with it

[VNova]

There may be no realistic coaching options for 2025, considering the treatment of one of our own...

Plenty of universities have fired an alum that wasn’t performing to its standard. Northwestern, Boise, and New Mexico did it last year. Fresno and Ball State did so this year. It’s not uncommon for a university to fire “one of their own.”

[T-Dog]

This isn't a Ruffin situation like I've seen some ECU fans hope it is for App. That AD at the time was slimy, didn't hold up their end of the contract and pissed off the entire coaching brotherhood in how he handled it.

I doubt Satt and Drink would encourage candidates if App State treated Clark wrong.

[ncman071]

how can anyone think clark was mistreated....this is a business where he was awarded a head job bascially his dream job and he did it for 5 years...he'll land on his feet...he's not going to the poor house anytime soon.

[AppDub]

Casey Woods is in the mix... comes highly recommended from Drink -- Satt recommended Neal Brown.

One P5 coordinator after digging into told his agent no thanks.

Either a fall back guy (Brown) -- Brown is awaiting what goes on at WKU.
A first timer (Woods)
OR a 1-AA move up the chain guys

This search will eventually pivot in another direction.

When you Fire an alum that was 40-24 isn't going to get you the top tier guys -- pecking order on who will want this job will fall down the train.

What a comment. I'm just going to believe you are being emotional and sharing your personal feelings. CFB is a results driven business and noone can argue that Clark didn't fumble the bag. Any coach that wouldn't want to come here because we fired a coach who was sliding down the mountain into mediocrity is no coach I want leading the program, and frankly, I'd question their ability to lead a McDonalds fryer line if that's their mindset.

I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it. He will be gone by the next time there is an opening and I would hate to sit here three years from now and go "I told you so".

That's exactly what I'll be doing though so I may as well add this to my profile. Texas State hired GJ Kinne and it worked out for them, quickly. App is starting from a much higher point of reference than Texas State was.

If DG hasn't already hired Brown, hire Lamb.

I'm sold now. You are 34 and he is 33. What more proof does one need?

You got that backwards. Lamb is 34. Eric is "Tre Tre"

(I believe Lamb is actually 35)

Tre tre, Cray cray, whatever.

[311neers]

There may be no realistic coaching options for 2025, considering the treatment of one of our own...

Where is Clark rumored to go?

Alabama OL coach.

[EastHallApp]

This isn't a Ruffin situation like I've seen some ECU fans hope it is for App. That AD at the time was slimy, didn't hold up their end of the contract and pissed off the entire coaching brotherhood in how he handled it.

I doubt Satt and Drink would encourage candidates if App State treated Clark wrong.

People always bring up McNeil like firing him was some disastrous mistake. Firing McNeil wasn't the mistake; hiring Scotty Montgomery to replace him was. Houston seemed like a good hire at the time, certainly improved the program for a while, but it ultimately didn't work out.

If we make a bad hire, then yeah, we're in for a rough ride. If we make a good hire, we'll win. But the status quo wasn't working.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Why did they fire Ruffin McNeil because they were good with him? If it was just because the administration didn’t like him, then yes, it was a mistake.

[ericsaid]

What a comment. I'm just going to believe you are being emotional and sharing your personal feelings. CFB is a results driven business and noone can argue that Clark didn't fumble the bag. Any coach that wouldn't want to come here because we fired a coach who was sliding down the mountain into mediocrity is no coach I want leading the program, and frankly, I'd question their ability to lead a McDonalds fryer line if that's their mindset.

I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it. He will be gone by the next time there is an opening and I would hate to sit here three years from now and go "I told you so".

That's exactly what I'll be doing though so I may as well add this to my profile. Texas State hired GJ Kinne and it worked out for them, quickly. App is starting from a much higher point of reference than Texas State was.

If DG hasn't already hired Brown, hire Lamb.

I'm sold now. You are 34 and he is 33. What more proof does one need?

You got that backwards. Lamb is 34. Eric is "Tre Tre"

(I believe Lamb is actually 35)

Tre tre, Cray cray, whatever.

App had their greatest success under coaches who were playing callers. Tre Lamb took Gardner-Webb to the FCS playoffs. He made a 1 win team a 7 win team in one year, coming close to 8 by what should have been a win over NDSU, scoring more points on them than Colorado scored. Played several FBS teams to one score games with Gardner-Webb. Recruited multiple All-Americans to Gardner-Webb, and managed to keep them at Gardner-Webb.


He took a couple dozen GWU players with him to ETSU which says a lot about how his players feel about him, while also being very successful.


You can look at his record all you want, but you have to look at where he was. Gardner-Webb was 5-6 in 2016, 1-10 in 2017, 3-8 in 2018, 3-9 in 2019, in 2020 he came in and went 2-2. 4-7 in 2021, 7-6 in 2022 with a playoff win (I believe), and 7-5 in 2023, and 4-8 in their first year without him in 2024.

He took ETSU from 1 win to 7 wins in one off-season.

Maybe I’m not old enough to say “I just want someone with more experience” but when someone has “it”, they have it. And he has it, as does the Lb family. If it were me, I’d give him a shot.

It’s not me though, so it doesn’t matter.

[Saint3333]

There may be no realistic coaching options for 2025, considering the treatment of one of our own...

You mean giving someone a chance to skip being a coordinator and first chance as a HC, and give them five years to see if they can take a back to back to back to back conference champion and win? That treatment?


Revisionist history will be the only record that shows Clark wasn’t given an opportunity to succeed.

Time to move on.

[AppDub]

I don't even care. I want Tre Lamb. He's 34, I'm 33. He get's it, I get it. He will be gone by the next time there is an opening and I would hate to sit here three years from now and go "I told you so".

That's exactly what I'll be doing though so I may as well add this to my profile. Texas State hired GJ Kinne and it worked out for them, quickly. App is starting from a much higher point of reference than Texas State was.

If DG hasn't already hired Brown, hire Lamb.

I'm sold now. You are 34 and he is 33. What more proof does one need?

You got that backwards. Lamb is 34. Eric is "Tre Tre"

(I believe Lamb is actually 35)

Tre tre, Cray cray, whatever.

App had their greatest success under coaches who were playing callers. Tre Lamb took Gardner-Webb to the FCS playoffs. He made a 1 win team a 7 win team in one year, coming close to 8 by what should have been a win over NDSU, scoring more points on them than Colorado scored. Played several FBS teams to one score games with Gardner-Webb. Recruited multiple All-Americans to Gardner-Webb, and managed to keep them at Gardner-Webb.


He took a couple dozen GWU players with him to ETSU which says a lot about how his players feel about him, while also being very successful.


You can look at his record all you want, but you have to look at where he was. Gardner-Webb was 5-6 in 2016, 1-10 in 2017, 3-8 in 2018, 3-9 in 2019, in 2020 he came in and went 2-2. 4-7 in 2021, 7-6 in 2022 with a playoff win (I believe), and 7-5 in 2023, and 4-8 in their first year without him in 2024.

He took ETSU from 1 win to 7 wins in one off-season.

Maybe I’m not old enough to say “I just want someone with more experience” but when someone has “it”, they have it. And he has it, as does the Lb family. If it were me, I’d give him a shot.

It’s not me though, so it doesn’t matter.

Love your passion and consistency.

[Yosef10]

Maybe. Maybe not.

I know you’re a bit tied in here, so I appreciate the comment. If it is to happen, I do think it would be the exception more so than the rule. In fact, and I shared this elsewhere, a podcast I listen to (and it’s a reputable one) even said that App could be the outlier case in regards to P4 coordinators ignoring the G5 head coaching gigs these days. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Yosef10]

This isn't a Ruffin situation like I've seen some ECU fans hope it is for App. That AD at the time was slimy, didn't hold up their end of the contract and pissed off the entire coaching brotherhood in how he handled it.

I doubt Satt and Drink would encourage candidates if App State treated Clark wrong.

People always bring up McNeil like firing him was some disastrous mistake. Firing McNeil wasn't the mistake; hiring Scotty Montgomery to replace him was. Houston seemed like a good hire at the time, certainly improved the program for a while, but it ultimately didn't work out.

If we make a bad hire, then yeah, we're in for a rough ride. If we make a good hire, we'll win. But the status quo wasn't working.

I don’t know, Ruffin had one 5-7 year with a 3rd string QB - and the behind the scenes was ugly. I would say that’s why they ended up with Scotty Montgomery.

[mountaineerman]

So we’re all in agreement that DG had a list for sometime. We all agree Neil wasn’t on that list. Now he is . That just doesn’t sit well me for some odd reason. I’m a big no to Brown.

[diehardapp18]

So we’re all in agreement that DG had a list for sometime. We all agree Neil wasn’t on that list. Now he is . That just doesn’t sit well me for some odd reason. I’m a big no to Brown.

Makes perfect sense to me. Have to adjust as the market changes

[Stonewall]

Brown wasn’t on the list , until he was let go. Others weren’t on the original list I suppose but have , I believe contacted us and gotten on the list.I am almost certain of that. Also I believe an agent could contact us tonight and we could be interviewing someone else tomorrow .

[yosef69]

So we’re all in agreement that DG had a list for sometime. We all agree Neil wasn’t on that list. Now he is . That just doesn’t sit well me for some odd reason. I’m a big no to Brown.

How could he be on the list? He was a sitting p4 coach. Of course we couldn’t get him until he was no longer with WVU.

[mountaineerman]

So we’re all in agreement that DG had a list for sometime. We all agree Neil wasn’t on that list. Now he is . That just doesn’t sit well me for some odd reason. I’m a big no to Brown.

How could he be on the list? He was a sitting p4 coach. Of course we couldn’t get him until he was no longer with WVU.

Its a lateral move IMO

[EastHallApp]

So we’re all in agreement that DG had a list for sometime. We all agree Neil wasn’t on that list. Now he is . That just doesn’t sit well me for some odd reason. I’m a big no to Brown.

How could he be on the list? He was a sitting p4 coach. Of course we couldn’t get him until he was no longer with WVU.

Its a lateral move IMO

[yosef69]

So we’re all in agreement that DG had a list for sometime. We all agree Neil wasn’t on that list. Now he is . That just doesn’t sit well me for some odd reason. I’m a big no to Brown.

How could he be on the list? He was a sitting p4 coach. Of course we couldn’t get him until he was no longer with WVU.

Its a lateral move IMO

Let’s see.

One is a guy who won so much he was hired for 4 million dollars a year by a p4 school (a bottom feeder)

One got bitch slapped by the likes of coastal Carolina, south Alabama. Never won a conference championship and missed two bowl games.

Do you know what lateral means?