Realistic coaching options for 2025...

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Seattleapp » Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:27 pm

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If Taylor Swift was the new coach recruiting and NIL money would not be a problem.
And I would never attend another game.
Me either at $1000.00 a ticket.
The crowd noise when it is nothing but 6 to 40 year old women. Granted they would just be screaming at all times and know nothing of football.
I would modify that to 6 to 70 year old women, and definitely a few men life myself who are dedicated Swifties.
Men?

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:50 pm

I am not personally a fan of Taylor Swift's music, but the number of guys who seem to be triggered by her mere existence is pretty funny.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by T-Dog » Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:10 am

Yall just need to shake it off. There's a lot more swifites into football now. Merch sales tell the picture. And they ask questions. They're not dumb.

If Taylor wants to take a massive paycut to coach App State, God bless her. And I would only judge her based on what her Offensive Coordinator does on 3rd and 8 near midfield.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppKirbstomp » Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:19 am

T-Dog wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:10 am
Yall just need to shake it off. There's a lot more swifites into football now. Merch sales tell the picture. And they ask questions. They're not dumb.

If Taylor wants to take a massive paycut to coach App State, God bless her. And I would only judge her based on what her Offensive Coordinator does on 3rd and 8 near midfield.
The Jason Kelce trip up to Boone makes a lot more sense now…

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:10 am

Just when you thought the discussion couldn’t devolve more.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BeauFoster » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:36 am

Saint3333 wrote:
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Just when you thought the discussion couldn’t devolve more.
Now just imagine how quickly society as a whole could devolve in a crisis. That’s the scary sociological reality.
Give 'em hell!

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:48 am

We don’t have to imagine it happened in 2020.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:50 am

This is to nobody in particular but probably mainly directed to the resident experts who seem to know it all. If I’m a prospective potential coach sell me on App State and convince me to want the job. Relieve my initial concerns about short leashes and the lunch mob mentality that exists here especially after you fired one of your own with a winning record.

Disclaimer- this isn’t a pro Clark slant but rather an impartial question.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:06 am

You already know it all, you just don’t like the answer.

There are more than half a dozen qualified candidates for the position. One will be hired in under a week, possibly Monday. Then they will strive to win championships again, looking forward to supporting them

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Unread post by appstate24 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:11 am

Saint3333 wrote:
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We don’t have to imagine it happened in 2020.
One of the most ridiculous and embarrassing times in human history.

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Unread post by AppinVA » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:19 am

appstate24 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:11 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:48 am
We don’t have to imagine it happened in 2020.
One of the most ridiculous and embarrassing times in human history.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPMMNvYTEyI
Which is why we “have” MIB.
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Unread post by bcoach » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:34 am

Rail Yard Dawgs scored 3 goals last night in less than 1.5 minutes.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:52 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:50 am
This is to nobody in particular but probably mainly directed to the resident experts who seem to know it all. If I’m a prospective potential coach sell me on App State and convince me to want the job. Relieve my initial concerns about short leashes and the lunch mob mentality that exists here especially after you fired one of your own with a winning record.

Disclaimer- this isn’t a pro Clark slant but rather an impartial question.
The "lunch mob" is the scariest part. Nothing worse than fighting a hangry fan for the last sandwich at the food truck.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by KentHogan » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:53 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:50 am
This is to nobody in particular but probably mainly directed to the resident experts who seem to know it all. If I’m a prospective potential coach sell me on App State and convince me to want the job. Relieve my initial concerns about short leashes and the lunch mob mentality that exists here especially after you fired one of your own with a winning record.

Disclaimer- this isn’t a pro Clark slant but rather an impartial question.
First, I would say that 5 years isn’t a short leash. As long as I have watched football, coaches have generally been given 4 years to build their program.

Second, a winning record isn’t our goal. Our goal is higher, conference championships, etc.

Third, whether you’re one of our own or not, you will be expected to meet expectations.

You said the question was for people who claim to know everything. I know nothing.

However, I do want a coach who can win at least one conference title in 5 years and have a program that isn’t getting worse the longer he’s around.

6-6 and 5-6 in two of the last three years isn’t good enough, period. Especially for a coach who took over a program in great shape.

Clark didn’t take over a mess, he took over one of the best G5 programs in the country, and after 5 years, it’s not that any longer.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:08 am

KentHogan wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:53 am
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:50 am
This is to nobody in particular but probably mainly directed to the resident experts who seem to know it all. If I’m a prospective potential coach sell me on App State and convince me to want the job. Relieve my initial concerns about short leashes and the lunch mob mentality that exists here especially after you fired one of your own with a winning record.

Disclaimer- this isn’t a pro Clark slant but rather an impartial question.
First, I would say that 5 years isn’t a short leash. As long as I have watched football, coaches have generally been given 4 years to build their program.

Second, a winning record isn’t our goal. Our goal is higher, conference championships, etc.

Third, whether you’re one of our own or not, you will be expected to meet expectations.

You said the question was for people who claim to know everything. I know nothing.

However, I do want a coach who can win at least one conference title in 5 years and have a program that isn’t getting worse the longer he’s around.

6-6 and 5-6 in two of the last three years isn’t good enough, period. Especially for a coach who took over a program in great shape.

Clark didn’t take over a mess, he took over one of the best G5 programs in the country, and after 5 years, it’s not that any longer.
Then why are we looking at Neal Brown?

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppFan11 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:24 am

We are looking at NB b/c he is a known quantity. He’s coached in the Belt and was successful. He could come right in and let him go to work. If you go the route of P4 coord with no head coach experience, then he’s going to have to learn on the job. Plus Brown is going to be well compensated by WVA, which makes him a good buy… and he’s only 44.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Boonedoc » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:27 am

Brown's success* (1 shared titles in 3 years) was pre SBC expansion. It isn't close to the same league anymore

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:31 am

The SBC is so much harder yet our highest ranked team is #58 is Massey.

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

This year there were some good teams, but no one was great.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppinVA » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:34 am

bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:08 am
KentHogan wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:53 am
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:50 am
This is to nobody in particular but probably mainly directed to the resident experts who seem to know it all. If I’m a prospective potential coach sell me on App State and convince me to want the job. Relieve my initial concerns about short leashes and the lunch mob mentality that exists here especially after you fired one of your own with a winning record.

Disclaimer- this isn’t a pro Clark slant but rather an impartial question.
First, I would say that 5 years isn’t a short leash. As long as I have watched football, coaches have generally been given 4 years to build their program.

Second, a winning record isn’t our goal. Our goal is higher, conference championships, etc.

Third, whether you’re one of our own or not, you will be expected to meet expectations.

You said the question was for people who claim to know everything. I know nothing.

However, I do want a coach who can win at least one conference title in 5 years and have a program that isn’t getting worse the longer he’s around.

6-6 and 5-6 in two of the last three years isn’t good enough, period. Especially for a coach who took over a program in great shape.

Clark didn’t take over a mess, he took over one of the best G5 programs in the country, and after 5 years, it’s not that any longer.
Then why are we looking at Neal Brown?
My preference is not for Brown, but we can’t ignore what he did at a competitive peer in Troy. He rebuilt a program that had slipped to .500 seasons from a string of SBC championships into a title contender. His biggest problem at Troy was that he had us to deal with. Even so, I’m still hoping for Casey Woods, but I do believe Brown can be successful at our level.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppinVA » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:35 am

Boonedoc wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:27 am
Brown's success* (1 shared titles in 3 years) was pre SBC expansion. It isn't close to the same league anymore
He had Troy nationally ranked. He won in the non-conference and had some upsets along the way. You don’t get ranked by just winning your conference games as a G5.
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