Dowell Loggains

[Mjohn1988]

Some folks on this board told us with our issues we would have trouble hiring the equipment manager from a 1AA high school. We just hired the OC from a 9 and 3 SEC program. I’m going to be ok with that for now. With the portal it’s going to be 2 season before we know what we have.

[Pikapp79]

First test coming. How many guys will he pull from little Carolina in the portal who drop down a level? Do they believe in him or not?

[AppYosef!]

I will take credit for being the one to say that neither Loggains or Galloway would be hires that would excite our fans or the team. Since the hire, I have been reading more about him online and I am warming to the hire.

Big question here...will Loggains be a ballcap or a visor guy? The video about him when he was hired at South Carolina shows a little of both...and even neither at times. Oh Lord - what have we done?!

I do like that the was credited as a top 25 recruiter nationally when at Arkansas AND I saw where he was credited with recruiting South Carolina's highly regarded young QB from this season. I am really interested to see who he brings in as his assistants. The way he builds his staff and the caliber of the coaches could go a long way to building optimism and excitement for our fans and players.

[moonshine]

Some folks on this board told us with our issues we would have trouble hiring the equipment manager from a 1AA high school. We just hired the OC from a 9 and 3 SEC program. I’m going to be ok with that for now. With the portal it’s going to be 2 season before we know what we have.

Coach better hit the ground running game 1 in Panthers stadium against UNCC. His seat could be very warm after just 1 game.

Maybe coach can get an NIL deal from Blammo courtesy of Ren & Stimpy.

“What rolls down stairs
Alone or in pairs,
Rolls over your neighbor's dog?
What's great for a snack
and fits on your back?
It's Log, Log, Log!
It's Lo-og, Lo-og,
It's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
It's Lo-og, Lo-og,
It's better than bad, it's good!
Everyone wants a Log!
You're gonna love it, Log!
Come on and get your Log!
Everyone needs a Log (everyone wants a Log)...
You're gonna love it, Log!
Log, from Blammo”

[mtnjax]

Coach better hit the ground running game 1 in Panthers stadium against UNCC. His seat could be very warm after just 1 game.

Better buckle up, he got a 5 year contract. His seat ain’t getting warm until we could afford to relieve him of his duties. I fully
believe that length of contract is also Gillin signaling he himself will be gone by the time it’s over. He ain’t planning on making another hire

[diehardapp18]

After 15-16 hours to think on it, these are my thoughts:

1) Obviously, I hope this works! I can’t say I was turning backflips when I learned of this hire, but obviously I hope he goes down as one of the greatest coaches in program history because what else is the point of being a fan?

2) Loggains…. Compared to the other supposed finalists feels slightly underwhelming. I think that’s a totally reasonable reaction here. I mean looking at his resume he’s been around a lot of losing. Obviously the Gamecocks have had a great season which he certainly has played a part in. But that team is led by their defense and they have an alien at quarterback responsible for making a lot of their plays.

He’s still 44 and relatively new to the college game, however. While some guys haven’t adjusted well to the new era of the sport, some coaches may thrive in it. Apparently he’s a great recruiter so maybe he’s one of those guys. Also, while some of the best assistant coaches in the world just weren’t meant to be head coaches there are also probably some assistants who may just seem mediocre at their jobs that could end up thriving as a head coach.

But it’s wild I sit here and I probably would have preferred Kerwin Bell and I think Charlotte made a much better hire than we did. How do you even argue this on paper?

Again I’m not here throwing a tantrum or anything because we have no clue how anything with turn out. He must have blown Doug away in interviews though. I look forward to hearing what he has to say at the press conference this week.

Hopefully this works out

[Saint3333]

Coach better hit the ground running game 1 in Panthers stadium against UNCC. His seat could be very warm after just 1 game.

Better buckle up, he got a 5 year contract. His seat ain’t getting warm until we could afford to relieve him of his duties. I fully
believe that length of contract is also Gillin signaling he himself will be gone by the time it’s over. He ain’t planning on making another hire

Five years contracts are relatively standard, you may be reading more into this than there is.

[asu2000]

After 15-16 hours to think on it, these are my thoughts:

1) Obviously, I hope this works! I can’t say I was turning backflips when I learned of this hire, but obviously I hope he goes down as one of the greatest coaches in program history because what else is the point of being a fan?

2) Loggains…. Compared to the other supposed finalists feels slightly underwhelming. I think that’s a totally reasonable reaction here. I mean looking at his resume he’s been around a lot of losing. Obviously the Gamecocks have had a great season which he certainly has played a part in. But that team is led by their defense and they have an alien at quarterback responsible for making a lot of their plays.

He’s still 44 and relatively new to the college game, however. While some guys haven’t adjusted well to the new era of the sport, some coaches may thrive in it. Apparently he’s a great recruiter so maybe he’s one of those guys. Also, while some of the best assistant coaches in the world just weren’t meant to be head coaches there are also probably some assistants who may just seem mediocre at their jobs that could end up thriving as a head coach.

But it’s wild I sit here and I probably would have preferred Kerwin Bell and I think Charlotte made a much better hire than we did. How do you even argue this on paper?

Again I’m not here throwing a tantrum or anything because we have no clue how anything with turn out. He must have blown Doug away in interviews though. I look forward to hearing what he has to say at the press conference this week.

Hopefully this works out

The Ohio / Charlotte Coach is 59/60 years old - that is not Gillen's operating style - no offense to age, but DG always seems to want somebody with something to prove and have young energy and that wants to make their mark / name - also a coach from Ohio - probably does not translate very well to our recruiting paths in my opinion, too big a learning curve, Drink was at state, knew the south (rules and regs) Dowell has been in the south for a few years now and understands what roads to take. Yes he was on bad NFL teams, but those teams were taking a chance on a young coach in his 30's - somebody has seen something in this guy over time or at each spot - to be honest is an NFL'er going to listen to a 30 year old OC that didn't play in the NFL - either way I hope he shines in the Black and Gold - maybe Doug hit the Gold rich pay dirt and this guy - if we are better than this last season and gripe less about bland play calling and defensive holes, I call that a win and have hope for year 2. Next year we go to Boise and then turn around and Play Oregon State Back in Boone the next week so 1-1 on those games but could be 0-2, hopefully all the rest of our games are Saturday only and not as weird timing wise as it was this year.

"Give Em Hell"

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

He’s been said to be a great recruiter and his ability to sell himself to those interviewing him for the job supports that. His coaching history is concerning, but he’s never been a head coach, so perhaps he’ll be more of a manager and hire great coordinators and position coaches and let them do what they’re hired to do…something his predecessor may have had trouble doing and possibly led to the lack of success. I was disappointed when announced, but looking for things to be optimistic about. Here’s hoping that he does so well, he’s hired away in 2-3 years.

[Mjohn1988]

Coach better hit the ground running game 1 in Panthers stadium against UNCC. His seat could be very warm after just 1 game.

Better buckle up, he got a 5 year contract. His seat ain’t getting warm until we could afford to relieve him of his duties. I fully
believe that length of contract is also Gillin signaling he himself will be gone by the time it’s over. He ain’t planning on making another hire

I hope he’s good enough to be gone before his contract expires.

[diehardapp18]

After 15-16 hours to think on it, these are my thoughts:

1) Obviously, I hope this works! I can’t say I was turning backflips when I learned of this hire, but obviously I hope he goes down as one of the greatest coaches in program history because what else is the point of being a fan?

2) Loggains…. Compared to the other supposed finalists feels slightly underwhelming. I think that’s a totally reasonable reaction here. I mean looking at his resume he’s been around a lot of losing. Obviously the Gamecocks have had a great season which he certainly has played a part in. But that team is led by their defense and they have an alien at quarterback responsible for making a lot of their plays.

He’s still 44 and relatively new to the college game, however. While some guys haven’t adjusted well to the new era of the sport, some coaches may thrive in it. Apparently he’s a great recruiter so maybe he’s one of those guys. Also, while some of the best assistant coaches in the world just weren’t meant to be head coaches there are also probably some assistants who may just seem mediocre at their jobs that could end up thriving as a head coach.

But it’s wild I sit here and I probably would have preferred Kerwin Bell and I think Charlotte made a much better hire than we did. How do you even argue this on paper?

Again I’m not here throwing a tantrum or anything because we have no clue how anything with turn out. He must have blown Doug away in interviews though. I look forward to hearing what he has to say at the press conference this week.

Hopefully this works out

The Ohio / Charlotte Coach is 59/60 years old - that is not Gillen's operating style - no offense to age, but DG always seems to want somebody with something to prove and have young energy and that wants to make their mark / name - also a coach from Ohio - probably does not translate very well to our recruiting paths in my opinion, too big a learning curve, Drink was at state, knew the south (rules and regs) Dowell has been in the south for a few years now and understands what roads to take. Yes he was on bad NFL teams, but those teams were taking a chance on a young coach in his 30's - somebody has seen something in this guy over time or at each spot - to be honest is an NFL'er going to listen to a 30 year old OC that didn't play in the NFL - either way I hope he shines in the Black and Gold - maybe Doug hit the Gold rich pay dirt and this guy - if we are better than this last season and gripe less about bland play calling and defensive holes, I call that a win and have hope for year 2. Next year we go to Boise and then turn around and Play Oregon State Back in Boone the next week so 1-1 on those games but could be 0-2, hopefully all the rest of our games are Saturday only and not as weird timing wise as it was this year.

"Give Em Hell"

I agree. Albin would not have made sense for us. But for Charlotte that’s a home run. They need someone that can just make them respectable and consistently win 7/8 games a year. Albin is as good of an option as any to get them to that level. Like today I’m saying they probably get an A for their hire, I certainly wouldn’t give us one.

[subwayjimmy]

Gonna drop some random info here that I think is good for context re: Dowell "Kenny" Loggains

- For a dude who is only 44, he does have a ton of coaching experience. It's really tough to determine how a guy who has never been a HC will fare. It's a different role. Plenty of terrific coordinators have wound up as crummy HCs, and vice versa.

- In 2023, he helped orchestrate really solid seasons from Spencer Rattler and Xavier Leggette. In 2024, he brought in Raheim Sanders from Arkansas who had a pretty good year. SC's O-line has struggled the last 2 years.

- As others have mentioned, they ran the ball a lot this year. However, 2 of their 3 starting WRs were underclassmen and they have one of the best rushing QBs in the country. In 2023, Rattler had the 2nd most attempts among SEC QBs. He re-tooled the entire offense from [basically] an air-raid playbook in 2023 to a read-option offense in 2024. And had success. That's not easy.

- Beamer has called Loggains an "elite recruiter". The offensive staff recruited pretty well for 2024, bringing a bunch of top 50 nationally ranked players (positionally) and the top end of the 2025 class looks solid. If he can peel off some of Beamer's staff, that would be huge. They've signed a bunch of really good o-line recruits, which has been an position of weakness for them.

- Sellers has credited Loggains and assistant Mike Shula for much of his development this year.

[Stonewall]

The guy from Ohio wanted nothing to do with high expectations. Championship expectations. Our guy demands them.

[ASUTodd]

The guy from Ohio wanted nothing to do with high expectations. Championship expectations. Our guy demands them.

I'll be curious to see details of Loggains contract.

[ASUTodd]

Ok, let's look at some positives...
Has NFL connections
Has SEC connections
According to Stonewall this guy has a drive and something to prove
Great recruiter
Has guided and molded two SC QBs that stood out.
Appears to want his QBs to run. Joey could have really benefites from that mindset.
Another positive is he is coming from a program that understands grudge matches with in-state foes. He will see the need to beat in-state rivals and he will understand how big the GASouth game is.
So while this wasn't my first pick it's who we got. I'm done griping about and looking forward to what he can do. So with that.... Welcome to the Rock, Coach Loggains.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Looking forward to making the 12 team playoff next year!!!

[hapapp]

The guy from Ohio wanted nothing to do with high expectations. Championship expectations. Our guy demands them.

I'm not unhappy with our selection but to suggest a guy who just won a championship doesn't have championship expectations is unfair.

[diehardapp18]

The guy from Ohio wanted nothing to do with high expectations. Championship expectations. Our guy demands them.

I'm not unhappy with our selection but to suggest a guy who just won a championship doesn't have championship expectations is unfair.

Yeah I never once implied Albin should have been the guy or even been in contention here. But thank you for calling out the hypocrisy of that comment lol.

My point from the start thought was looking at Charlotte and their current situation then looking at our current situation I simply think Charlotte made the better hire.

[ASUPATCH]

Lets put Dowells' NFL time into some perspective by digging a bit deeper into perhaps why he struggled at the NFL level. I think anyone would agree the QB, particularly in the NFL, is what makes an offense really go. Very few folks in the history of the NFL have ever looked good with subpar QB play. This is even more true over the last 20-30 years with the advances in the passing game. It hard to win with incompetent QB and even harder when you don't have a defense to carry you. On the teams he was OC for the defenses averaged 21st in the NFL with one season in the top 10. Hard to fault the guy for what he had to work with. I think most would agree the best he got to work with in that stretch for more than 5 gave was probably Ryan freaking Tannehill.

Dowell's NFL stops as OC and his starters:

Titans 2012 record 6-10
Jake Locker 11
37 year old Matt Hasselbeck 5
32nd ranked defense

Titans 2013 record 7-9
Ryan Fitzpatrick 9
Jake Locker 7
16th ranked defense


Bears 2016 record 3-13
Matt Barkley 6
Brian Hoyer 5
Jay Cutler 5
24th ranked defense

Bears 2017 record 5-11
Mitchell Trubisky 12
Mike Glennon 4
9th ranked defense

Dolphins 2018 record 7-9
Ryan Tannehill 11
Brock Osweiler 5
27th ranked defense

Jets 2019 record 7-9
Sam Darnold 13
Luke Falk 2
Trevor Siemian 1
16th ranked defense

Jets 2020 record 2-14
Sam Darnold 12
Joe Flacco 4
26th ranked defense

[ASUPATCH]

More important to me than Coach Dowells play calling or record in the NFL is who he get to call plays for at the QB position next year. That should be priority 1 for Coach Dowell. Finding his guy and helping him flourish.