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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:27 pm

It surprises me he would have interest in any college job

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Unread post by asu7 » Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:07 pm

I don't think it is even about money for coaches. I think it is how much NIL money the school has. NIL is changing everything as we thought it would.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm

So UNLV got Dan Mullen.

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Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by appfanjj » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:24 pm

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I just can’t get it out of my mind that uncc got a proven winner as a head coach and we couldn’t / didn’t. We will just have to wait and see but I am not looking forward to our first game next year.
Between the two we got a much better guy. Loggains is very relatable to today's players and comes from a MUCH better background. His SEC / NFL experience will be attractive to recruits and I imagine he has a ton more of experience working the portal than the guy from Ohio. Not to mention a broader pool of qualified assistant coaches.
Winning (in) the MAC is really nothing special. Try to change your thinking. We got a proven winner. Maybe not as a head coach but overall he is. Let's let it all play out and we will see. I seriously hope you are not that worried about uncc. We will be just fine. Let's go!!!

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:40 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
This is the same UNLV that lost a QB because of unfulfilled "promises"?

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:48 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:40 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
This is the same UNLV that lost a QB because of unfulfilled "promises"?
I was not in the room on negotiations. I am sure Dan covered those ideas. With that said, these are the initial conversations potential coaches are asking besides salary ranges. NIL is driving the bus..and App is probably not at UNLV level on nil...it is what it is
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:09 pm

UNCC contract details are in

pay: 900k, $1MM starting in 2027
assitant pool $1.8MM
support staff $507k

man i hope Loggins works out for us because I feel like this is very doable for App for a proven winner of 10+ games at a G5 program...

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by ASUTodd » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:11 pm

BallantyneApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:09 pm
UNCC contract details are in

pay: 900k, $1MM starting in 2027
assitant pool $1.8MM
support staff $507k

man i hope Loggins works out for us because I feel like this is very doable for App for a proven winner of 10+ games at a G5 program...
I may have missed it, and I don't seem to see it....but do we have Coach Dlo's contract details and assistant pool numbers?

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:49 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has at least 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by goapps93 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:56 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:49 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
I think the MWC is under the radar and is disrespected due to East Coast bias. I’m just speculating but reports are they are poised to join the PAC 12 restart. I imagine they have beefed up their budget more than we’re capable.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:04 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:49 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
I would think that Parker Search has a pulse of the market and what certain coaches that want back into the club of coaching.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:40 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:48 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:40 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
This is the same UNLV that lost a QB because of unfulfilled "promises"?
I was not in the room on negotiations. I am sure Dan covered those ideas. With that said, these are the initial conversations potential coaches are asking besides salary ranges. NIL is driving the bus..and App is probably not at UNLV level on nil...it is what it is
Bamboo, I am genuinely curious about this. You were one of the most convinced that the East side tower was "fully funded". You even said you had been told that it would be open by the beginning of the 2025 season. How did we go from having the money for close to $100 million dollars stadium expansion, to being relatively financially uncompetitive with the likes of UNLV. I am absolutely not trying to start something, but I really don't understand.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:38 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:40 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:48 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:40 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm


I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
This is the same UNLV that lost a QB because of unfulfilled "promises"?
I was not in the room on negotiations. I am sure Dan covered those ideas. With that said, these are the initial conversations potential coaches are asking besides salary ranges. NIL is driving the bus..and App is probably not at UNLV level on nil...it is what it is
Bamboo, I am genuinely curious about this. You were one of the most convinced that the East side tower was "fully funded". You even said you had been told that it would be open by the beginning of the 2025 season. How did we go from having the money for close to $100 million dollars stadium expansion, to being relatively financially uncompetitive with the likes of UNLV. I am absolutely not trying to start something, but I really don't understand.
Geez Dude, get over the East Tower. Between this and your obsession with telling everyone that Clark was a lazy hire 37,000 times and East Tower, you are stuck on repeat with your broken record commentary.
I do not remember my exact comments saying the east Tower was fully funded. TBH, I do not care what my exact comments were. That was like two years ago.

My commentary on East Side was based upon a phone call with someone from MAF or athletics dept after I inquired when I noted the renderings as I was interested in considering purchasing seats at a club level. I was communicated that they were securing deposits for folks interested and that the East Tower would begin in 2025 I believe to hopefully be available in 2026.
Maybe come up with some more relevant commentary.....or if you do not understand...call the freaking athletics department and get a timeline on the East Tower. The East Tower does not solve NIL issues and competing with UNLV.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:46 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:49 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
Totally agree Mullen would have been quite the coup

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Cincy App » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:18 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:13 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:27 pm
So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
Mullen is replacing Odom at UNLV. Based on an article in a Las Vegas paper, Odom was making 1.75M at UNLV. I'm sure Mullen will be making that or more. Thus, Mullen appears to have been out of our price range.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by mountaineerman » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:50 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:38 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:40 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:48 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:40 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm

This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
This is the same UNLV that lost a QB because of unfulfilled "promises"?
I was not in the room on negotiations. I am sure Dan covered those ideas. With that said, these are the initial conversations potential coaches are asking besides salary ranges. NIL is driving the bus..and App is probably not at UNLV level on nil...it is what it is
Bamboo, I am genuinely curious about this. You were one of the most convinced that the East side tower was "fully funded". You even said you had been told that it would be open by the beginning of the 2025 season. How did we go from having the money for close to $100 million dollars stadium expansion, to being relatively financially uncompetitive with the likes of UNLV. I am absolutely not trying to start something, but I really don't understand.
Geez Dude, get over the East Tower. Between this and your obsession with telling everyone that Clark was a lazy hire 37,000 times and East Tower, you are stuck on repeat with your broken record commentary.
I do not remember my exact comments saying the east Tower was fully funded. TBH, I do not care what my exact comments were. That was like two years ago.

My commentary on East Side was based upon a phone call with someone from MAF or athletics dept after I inquired when I noted the renderings as I was interested in considering purchasing seats at a club level. I was communicated that they were securing deposits for folks interested and that the East Tower would begin in 2025 I believe to hopefully be available in 2026.
Maybe come up with some more relevant commentary.....or if you do not understand...call the freaking athletics department and get a timeline on the East Tower. The East Tower does not solve NIL issues and competing with UNLV.
MHO is screw the east side anything.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:39 pm

I understand that on the face it looks like we could not afford Mullen. My problem is that I am not sure how anyone can know what he was willing to work for WITHOUT inquiring into him directly to him or his people. Since we apparently didn't do this, we will never know for sure. Again, make them turn us down don't just assume we aren't in play.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:50 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:39 pm
I understand that on the face it looks like we could not afford Mullen. My problem is that I am not sure how anyone can know what he was willing to work for WITHOUT inquiring into him directly to him or his people. Since we apparently didn't do this, we will never know for sure. Again, make them turn us down don't just assume we aren't in play.
Probably a lot of convo behind the scene with a lot of guys. At this point doubt our job is super exciting unless you are trying to go forward. Mullen would be taking a big step back.

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