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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:02 pm

311neers wrote:
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Oh gosh. Kanye Roberts visited Liberty.
Dagger to the chest.
I’d had a lot of hope for Fumbles, but I wouldn’t call him going to Liberty a dagger.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:07 pm

This is what I don't understand. This started with " the schools are making millions off the backs of the poor players". If that is the case why do we need collectives? Just use all those millions that the schools are making off the backs of the poor players. Problem solved!

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:16 pm

bcoach wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:07 pm
This is what I don't understand. This started with " the schools are making millions off the backs of the poor players". If that is the case why do we need collectives? Just use all those millions that the schools are making off the backs of the poor players. Problem solved!
I could see collectives going by the wayside once the House Settlement takes affect. The collectives lose their allure if the same money can be donated to the school and be tax deductible.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm

AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:01 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
I’m afraid you’re gonna have to find something else to watch. 105 scholarships removes the need, or want, for walk-ons.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by goapps93 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm

AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:27 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am


You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
This is what makes me angry....a semi pro league would not be successful. The money is all generated by the college name. I cannot believe the colleges don't see this. Someone in corporate American has found a way to make the rich richer. It is so wrong. You put the western North Carolina Elks on a jersey and play at Kid Brewer and NO ONE is showing up. Same with the Central North Carolina Hill climbers......NO ONE is showing up. You put a school fool of walk on and Call them AppState and people are coming to the game.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:14 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am


You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
I feel the same way.

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Unread post by spacemonkey » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:41 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:27 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm

I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
This is what makes me angry....a semi pro league would not be successful. The money is all generated by the college name. I cannot believe the colleges don't see this. Someone in corporate American has found a way to make the rich richer. It is so wrong. You put the western North Carolina Elks on a jersey and play at Kid Brewer and NO ONE is showing up. Same with the Central North Carolina Hill climbers......NO ONE is showing up. You put a school full of walk on and Call them AppState and people are coming to the game.

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Unread post by proasu89 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:23 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:01 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enough to hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
I’m afraid you’re gonna have to find something else to watch. 105 scholarships removes the need, or want, for walk-ons.
Some of those who would have been walk-ons likely would now receive a scholarship. Also, any walk-on that sees the field now is recruited as a PWO.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:25 pm

If these guys want to get paid then do away with scholarships and let them pay for college out of their "salary".

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Unread post by KentHogan » Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:37 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:25 pm
If these guys want to get paid then do away with scholarships and let them pay for college out of their "salary".
Exactly.

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Unread post by KentHogan » Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:48 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am


You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
We’re already there.

Think about it, right now we have kids playing at a different school every year. Clearly, they couldn’t care less about the college aspect of it.

They can no longer call themselves a Mountaineer or a Tar Heel or a Bulldog, or whatever.

If this continues, they won’t even have to be students any longer. That lawsuit is just around the corner in my opinion.

So yeah, college athletics is no longer.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:47 pm

KentHogan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:48 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm

I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
We’re already there.

Think about it, right now we have kids playing at a different school every year. Clearly, they couldn’t care less about the college aspect of it.

They can no longer call themselves a Mountaineer or a Tar Heel or a Bulldog, or whatever.

If this continues, they won’t even have to be students any longer. That lawsuit is just around the corner in my opinion.

So yeah, college athletics is no longer.
I absolutly understand and agree with your sentiments. With that said college athletics are alive and very well in DIV lll. Kids are there for the love of the sport. I have a grandchild playing a DIV lll non football sport and they have not asked us for dime one. The kids are happy and having fun. I have gone to the DIV lll nat champ in football 5-6 times and these people, players and fans have a great time.

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Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:59 pm

bcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:47 pm
KentHogan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:48 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm


If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
We’re already there.

Think about it, right now we have kids playing at a different school every year. Clearly, they couldn’t care less about the college aspect of it.

They can no longer call themselves a Mountaineer or a Tar Heel or a Bulldog, or whatever.

If this continues, they won’t even have to be students any longer. That lawsuit is just around the corner in my opinion.

So yeah, college athletics is no longer.
I absolutly understand and agree with your sentiments. With that said college athletics are alive and very well in DIV lll. Kids are there for the love of the sport. I have a grandchild playing a DIV lll non football sport and they have not asked us for dime one. The kids are happy and having fun. I have gone to the DIV lll nat champ in football 5-6 times and these people, players and fans have a great time.
So who’s close that I might go pull for?

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:59 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:47 pm
KentHogan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:48 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm


Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
We’re already there.

Think about it, right now we have kids playing at a different school every year. Clearly, they couldn’t care less about the college aspect of it.

They can no longer call themselves a Mountaineer or a Tar Heel or a Bulldog, or whatever.

If this continues, they won’t even have to be students any longer. That lawsuit is just around the corner in my opinion.

So yeah, college athletics is no longer.
I absolutly understand and agree with your sentiments. With that said college athletics are alive and very well in DIV lll. Kids are there for the love of the sport. I have a grandchild playing a DIV lll non football sport and they have not asked us for dime one. The kids are happy and having fun. I have gone to the DIV lll nat champ in football 5-6 times and these people, players and fans have a great time.
So who’s close that I might go pull for?
Don't know where you are but there should be some place

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDawg » Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:49 pm

KentHogan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:48 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:36 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:23 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm

I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.
Your choice. Noble stance, but I imagine most people will be fine with winning regardless of who wears the jersey.
I’m really torn. I’m not fine with all that’s going on with college football but I’m still a fan of App State. I’m afraid it’s not going to be long before it’s no longer “college” football, if we’re not there already.
We’re already there.

Think about it, right now we have kids playing at a different school every year. Clearly, they couldn’t care less about the college aspect of it.

They can no longer call themselves a Mountaineer or a Tar Heel or a Bulldog, or whatever.

If this continues, they won’t even have to be students any longer. That lawsuit is just around the corner in my opinion.

So yeah, college athletics is no longer.
Totally agree, @kenthogan. I really want to know the graduation rates of those that enter the portal across all sports as well as sport specific.

I read a book earlier this year called “The $hift” that is about youth baseball travel up through college and MLB draft. Very eye opening. There is a very ugly and dark underbelly to all we are seeing and it starts with private equity & youth sports as young as 6 years old.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppState89 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:51 pm

Guess South Florida just forked out some $$$.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:53 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:11 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 am
The system needs to evolve to contracts like coaches or NFL, you sign for a 3 or 4 year period. If you want to leave, new school pays the buyout and pays player more than what you were paying. That would eliminate some of it if the buyouts are enoughto hurt so to speak. Some of the Power schools are just buying talent because they can with the war chest. At least schools that lose players...they get renumeration for time coaching and building players to get to Power level.
Personally, I would like App to consider a lower roster size so as to have more funds per player. Understand the risk with depth, however, we got to figure out ways to compete in the new world with less funds than larger schools.
You want to know what really sux. I walked on at App and it was a great experience. Limited roster size would have taken that experience from me. I hope that never happens.
I think it is fair to say that the days of the walk on as it was in the good old days is probably gone. Too many kids with stars still sitting in the portal that will get attention well before walk on kids. Times change.
If App stops having walk on players I will without a doubt stop watching college sports.

Wait until they start paying walk on’s. It’s coming.

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