App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

[goapps93]

Scholarships and scholarly pursuits no longer have any value. Will you all keep giving to Yosef to provide scholarships? I feel like it's a punch in the gut to those who donate to provide scholarships.

[Mjohn1988]

Check out this guy's NIL request......

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/12F3qG31SFf/

Any university would have to be a fool to do this kind of crap. Three words from me, kiss my ass!!!

[Stonewall]

Again , it’s not just us. People I know throughout the southeast are sharing the same thoughts. SEC , ACC alums down to the SOCON . My question is , who is earnestly working on a solution?

[AppStFan1]

Again , it’s not just us. People I know throughout the southeast are sharing the same thoughts. SEC , ACC alums down to the SOCON . My question is , who is earnestly working on a solution?

If we don't see some legislation proposed by the end of 2025 I will start to think we have some folks getting paid off not to have a fix. Like how politicians incite war because they use foreign aid packages to money launder and get rich. When there is chaos allowed someone is always getting rich off it.

[biggie]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

[AppWyo]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

[spacemonkey]

As soon as I heard "private equity" was getting involved I knew it was over. The part I don't get is who in the school systems are getting paid. Someone will have to stand up. It will have to be a Notre Dame and Standford type school that starts their own league for a chance to save it. IF THEY (Notre Dame and Standford) DO>>>I WILL MAKE THE MOST PHONE CALLS EVER TO OUR ADMIN TO JOIN THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

[AppDawg]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

The folly in that thinking is the assumption $$$ will continue to flow in via ticket sales/donations.

We have seen this movie before with NASCAR in the early 2000’s… now where are they? Struggling for viewership and removing 10’s of thousands of stands from every track.

[AppWyo]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

The folly in that thinking is the assumption $$$ will continue to flow in via ticket sales/donations.

We have seen this movie before with NASCAR in the early 2000’s… now where are they? Struggling for viewership and removing 10’s of thousands of stands from every track.

What NASCAR did is they forgot about their fans that got them there. It was really because the France Family would not give Bruton Smith any races for his tracks, so he bought racetracks that the France Family did not own and take those tracks' races for his tracks.

[TheMoody1]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

Then players need to be contract employees just like coaches.

[AppWyo]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

Then players need to be contract employees just like coaches.

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

[AppDawg]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

The folly in that thinking is the assumption $$$ will continue to flow in via ticket sales/donations.

We have seen this movie before with NASCAR in the early 2000’s… now where are they? Struggling for viewership and removing 10’s of thousands of stands from every track.

What NASCAR did is they forgot about their fans that got them there. It was really because the France Family would not give Bruton Smith any races for his tracks, so he bought racetracks that the France Family did not own and take those tracks' races for his tracks.

BINGO! Forgot about their fans.

The Players and lack of oversight/governance is the college athletics Bruton Smith. “All about me”

Thank you for reiterating my point for me.

[TheMoody1]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

Then players need to be contract employees just like coaches.

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

[Saint3333]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

That’s one opinion.

[bcoach]

Always was, always will be......a bad idea.

[bcoach]

Scholarships and scholarly pursuits no longer have any value. Will you all keep giving to Yosef to provide scholarships? I feel like it's a punch in the gut to those who donate to provide scholarships.

I have been thinking about that. We have been donating to Yosef for many years to provide scholarships. Now the players are telling me that it is not enough to provide them with the free education that my kids didn't get. I paid two full tuitions and all the other expenses for my kids but that is not enough. I have to also pay yours plus a paycheck. The longer I think about this the more I take exception to being given that ultimatum. Pay me or I leave. Maybe I just really don't care if you leave. Maybe in my eyes (and I know I am in the minority) you are just not as important as you think you are.
I know I am going to get a lot of pushback on here and that is fine. I respect that, but this is how I am feeling.

[Bootsy]

Scholarships and scholarly pursuits no longer have any value. Will you all keep giving to Yosef to provide scholarships? I feel like it's a punch in the gut to those who donate to provide scholarships.

I have been thinking about that. We have been donating to Yosef for many years to provide scholarships. Now the players are telling me that it is not enough to provide them with the free education that my kids didn't get. I paid two full tuitions and all the other expenses for my kids but that is not enough. I have to also pay yours plus a paycheck. The longer I think about this the more I take exception to being given that ultimatum. Pay me or I leave. Maybe I just really don't care if you leave. Maybe in my eyes (and I know I am in the minority) you are just not as important as you think you are.
I know I am going to get a lot of pushback on here and that is fine. I respect that, but this is how I am feeling.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion; there aren’t any right/wrong answers when it comes to how people should feel about NIL.

[AtlAppMan]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

Then players need to be contract employees just like coaches.

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

Let’s be crystal clear, when a coach leaves early he is not breaking his contract, they are merely executing an option within the contract that both parties agreed to. Don’t start one sided on your opinion Wyoming. The problem now is we have athletes that are “operating” somewhere between amateur and employees which can’t work. THAT is the problem. So either turn them into employees with legal contracts or put them back in the amateur box. You can’t have it both ways. At this point I can’t see them putting genie back in bottle.

The problem with employee status will then become “What the hell are universities doing running a separate business in the form of a professional sports team?” Are they there to educate students or run a for profit sports organization? Talk about getting way off the reservation of their purpose statement. They are losing their way.

[WASU 93]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

The folly in that thinking is the assumption $$$ will continue to flow in via ticket sales/donations.

We have seen this movie before with NASCAR in the early 2000’s… now where are they? Struggling for viewership and removing 10’s of thousands of stands from every track.

What NASCAR did is they forgot about their fans that got them there. It was really because the France Family would not give Bruton Smith any races for his tracks, so he bought racetracks that the France Family did not own and take those tracks' races for his tracks.

They still thrived through that era. But, they took their eye of the ball and valued markets over their core fans and thumbed their nose at tradition. (and Sponsorships and $$$ were driving that boat). Everyone was able to be fat and happy, because the TV contracts provided plenty of revenue.
Then, their passion to try to compete with the NFL led to a playoff system that further distanced the core fans. Revenue sharing (charters) kicked in and the owners pushed to reduced costs + NASCAR saw an opportunity to standardize parts through a single vendor (per part), which also benefitted their interests.
They were successful at attracting the casual fan during their boom, but eventually that casual fan moved on to the next shiny object. Markets and marketing were more important than the on-track product and eventually attendance and viewership plummeted. Plus, networks took the product to secondary cable networks and now, streaming services (trying to force subscriptions), which meant that all of the races couldn't be consumed by the core fan *unless they wanted to open their wallets).
Plus, they moved start times purely at the discretion of the TV networks, which often now results in rain outs or shortened races which could have been run the full distance, had they started at the traditional 1:00 pm.
Fortune 500 companies invested their marketing revenue in other sports/opportunities, the fans went away, the new car isn't competitive unless the tires are dialed in perfect, the playoff system doesn't draw fans, there are bad start times and they now find themselves in a lawsuit due to Charter negotiations that they tried to force down the owners throat (charges of being a monopoly in a legal battle against Team Michael Jordan). Then, there's the in race officiating issues....

Basically, a series of bad mistakes by a leadership group that can't get out of their own way and refuses to acknowledge it's issues.

Trying to do this on the fan's backs will be a mistake.

[AppSt94]

Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

Then players need to be contract employees just like coaches.

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

Sure but the problem that you run into is that would require the player to sign a multi year deal. What happens if a player isn't working out and we the program wants to free up a roster spot. Then who pays that buyout?