App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

[AppDawg]

His comment was to development and not recruiting. Those are two different things. Those guys didn’t come to campus ready to be NFL players. They were developed by the former staff.

So who’s going to the NFL from the 20, 21 or even the 22 classes? Did the last staff “develop” any NFL players from those classes? Point being all the marinade in the world can’t turn a flank steak into a fillet mignon.

Why is it important to produce NFL talent? Isn’t it the position among the group that wins and losses are what matter? Yes you want and need good players and you can have good players that aren’t NFL caliber. Patrick Mahomes is one of the best QBs in the NFL today and his teams at Texas Tech were mid.

Here is a question for those of you that think that Shawn had destroyed or was on the way to destroying the program. He hasn’t produced the results that Satt did which is true. And we can sit here and go back and forth from now until the end of time with “what ifs.” It isn’t going to change anyone’s opinion one way or another. Is it possible that Satt caught lightening in a bottle with the collection of talent from 2017-2019 that he benefited from?
He was 51-24 here at App but is a paultry 33-40 at big boy schools. Jerry Moore won three Nattys with pretty much the same nucleus of talent. Once that talent started to move on, the titles went away.

Time will tell whether this change was a good decision or not.

I’m not at all about beating up on Shawn Clark. I have simply been saying for the last 3 years that we have had a major drop off in talent. I don’t even thinks it’s an arguable point. With that I’ll be done talking about it.

Comparing it to what he inherited, I would tend to agree. I just don’t feel like an expectation of consistency in recruiting at that level is fair as that talent as a group could be seen as a generational group. Much like the group from 2004-2008. Have a good day.

I believe I am the one that brought Satt up several pages back. The more and more I think about it, it is a very relevant comparison and I stand by it. Satt led us through the transition from FCS to FBS. Along with this came adding 22 scholarships.

It would have been very easy for him to top load the roster with Junior and Senior transfers (yes, despite lack of portal transfers could still occur)… sit out in 2013/‘14 and ready to go in ‘14 or ‘15.

Instead he added through HS recruiting. He played and developed young players.

Fast forward to now COVID, extra years, etc… we found ourselves in a similar position of needing to replace almost a full class. Instead of using the portal to supplement and develop/play younger players… we relied heavy on portal and the result was a top heavy roster of outsiders. Bringing in upperclassmen transfers signals to the underclassmen I need to go elsewhere.

Another factor, we are not playing with leads allowing underclassmen the opportunity to play meaningful snaps. When was the last time we have seen a back-up QB play? Seems like forever ago.

The optimal time to “reset”, was when the hennigan/hannon class exhausted all of their eligibility.

It’s a tangled mess.

[bcoach]

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

Due to our lack of talent.

I thought we had a wealth of talent and should have won the confrence and on to a ny6.

Where was the wealth of talent? Who are the studs? Team full of ok guys with a handful of good players.

Exactly! But I just kept hearing about this talent and no not just from the staff. We never had the horses to run this race. As far as NFL yep they were developed onder SC. The reason it didn't continue is they couldn't nrecruit worth a crap. I am sure though we will argue about that for the next 6 months.

[BallantyneApp]

Former Appalachian State QB Joey Aguilar tells ESPN he plans to set a visit next week to UCLA. He’s also heard from Cal, UCF, Washington State, Ole Miss, Charlotte, Coastal Carolina, Miami OH and WKU. UCLA is his only visit in the works.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out and whether he gets a Power school offer with a legitimate chance to start

Charlotte must have someone forking up some money down there. They already landed loftis. TBH, kind of jealous the route they chose to go.

Uncc I think has the north wood ravin guy funding them. Biffs buddies are all gone. Hearing from a school and considering them are 2 different things. I would bet 99% Joey doesn’t go there.

Agreed on their coaching route. Based on their pool/coaching funds we could have offered Albin the same or even a little more.

[Mjohn1988]

Jack Hollifield to Tulane.

Is that 3 different schools in 3 years….what a joke college football has become

[BambooRdApp]

Jack Hollifield to Tulane.

Is that 3 different schools in 3 years….what a joke college football has become

Is that 2 players to Tulane?
Former Troy coach picking off our players

[hapapp]

Jack Hollifield to Tulane.

Is that 3 different schools in 3 years….what a joke college football has become

I understand for six figures.

[Bootsy]

Jack Hollifield to Tulane.

Is that 3 different schools in 3 years….what a joke college football has become

Is that 2 players to Tulane?
Former Troy coach picking off our players

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It does make Sumrall’s choices easier, and there’s less ambiguity…given his experience facing App during his tenure at Troy.

[biggie]

Jason Chambers to the portal.

[Appst86]

Perhaps it's me getting old and more crotchety, but these players transferring out and sending the "thank you" tweet is analogous to splitting with the wife and sending a mushy letter to the in-laws. At best, it falls on deaf ears; but more likely, just pisses them off. Totally unnecessary; if you're going to leave, just leave.

[DoesntEvenGoHere]

Maybe he doesn't want to leave but doesn't feel comfortable with his current situation. So maybe he is apologetic towards the fans. It's not like he signed up in the Portal day 1..

[Stonewall]

That’s touching. Warm and fuzzy.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Who?

[Mjohn1988]

I like the “ lock down” corner part…that’s funny

[AppinVA]

Jason Chambers to the portal.

Nice incorrect use of a semicolon.

[appdaze]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

[Mjohn1988]

This is what will kill this whole thing…..many of us are finding it very hard to like these young men…not saying it’s right, just that it is

[Pikapp79]

I like the “ lock down” corner part…that’s funny

We grade on a curve.

[Pikapp79]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

Ok, then why send a dime to Yosef Club? Works both ways.

[MrCraig]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

Like so many other things in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.

[Pikapp79]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

Like so many otherthings in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.

I’m not mad at them. As a matter of fact don’t blame them. Also don’t blame any fan for packing it in and not financially supporting the new model. No one should come down on a player or former fan for deciding the best path for them. The new model is a disaster for fans of mid to lower tier programs and a payday for players.