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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:26 pm

If they are coming simply for the money , they can go elsewhere. If they are coming to become part of something I cherish, and have helped build over decades, welcome aboard.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDawg » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:27 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Like so many other things in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.
For the top players in the portal it is about $$$. The large majority though, likely playing time or something else.

On3 has annual portal stats… overall count of players that enter the portal, # that transfer, # that withdraw and # that never land any where.

Not counting current year, but prior 3 years something like 3,000 total players entered annually. Of those, ~1,000 / year never landed anywhere.

As someone else pointed out, only a select few of our players that enter move to p4 - Noel/McLeod come to mind. The overwhelming majority land in a lesser G5 or FCS school. Hard time believing those moves are for the almighty dollar.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by appdaze » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:29 pm

Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:21 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Like so many otherthings in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.
I’m not mad at them. As a matter of fact don’t blame them. Also don’t blame any fan for packing it in and not financially supporting the new model. No one should come down on a player or former fan for deciding the best path for them. The new model is a disaster for fans of mid to lower tier programs and a payday for players.
100% correct. I've stated on here I'm pretty sure my money will be heading strictly to the academic side. I'm blasting the "fans" going after these young men. Its getting absurd.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:35 pm

If a guy is first team , it’s likely money. Certainly not all , but the vast majority are looking to cash out short term. I will be interested to see the graduation rates going forward. Sacrificing the future is generally not a great strategy.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Appst86 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:29 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:21 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Like so many otherthings in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.
I’m not mad at them. As a matter of fact don’t blame them. Also don’t blame any fan for packing it in and not financially supporting the new model. No one should come down on a player or former fan for deciding the best path for them. The new model is a disaster for fans of mid to lower tier programs and a payday for players.
100% correct. I've stated on here I'm pretty sure my money will be heading strictly to the academic side. I'm blasting the "fans" going after these young men. Its getting absurd.
I wasn't "going after" or "shitting" on anyone. If my son were in the same situation, I might advise him to leave but I am certain I would not advise him to send a self-promoting "thank you" tweet as he is walking out the door.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:48 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Then don't ask me to pay you while you are here. Just go. Don't need any phoney notes.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by appdaze » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:51 pm

Appst86 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:29 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:21 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Like so many otherthings in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.
I’m not mad at them. As a matter of fact don’t blame them. Also don’t blame any fan for packing it in and not financially supporting the new model. No one should come down on a player or former fan for deciding the best path for them. The new model is a disaster for fans of mid to lower tier programs and a payday for players.
100% correct. I've stated on here I'm pretty sure my money will be heading strictly to the academic side. I'm blasting the "fans" going after these young men. Its getting absurd.
I wasn't "going after" or "shitting" on anyone. If my son were in the same situation, I might advise him to leave but I am certain I would not advise him to send a self-promoting "thank you" tweet as he is walking out the door.
Thanking your employer for employing you is not a bad thing. Would you rather they tell you to F off? Seriously. Nothing wrong with thanking your now previous team on your way out the door. Some of y'all are so petty. They are being courteous and professional by thanking us. get over yourselves.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by appdaze » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:54 pm

bcoach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:48 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Then don't ask me to pay you while you are here. Just go. Don't need any phoney notes.
Then don't expect people to put their bodies on the line for your entertainment. Just fold the team now.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:20 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:54 pm
bcoach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:48 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Then don't ask me to pay you while you are here. Just go. Don't need any phoney notes.
Then don't expect people to put their bodies on the line for your entertainment. Just fold the team now.
That might be the best idea. It’s going to collapse anyway.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:22 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:54 pm
bcoach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:48 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Then don't ask me to pay you while you are here. Just go. Don't need any phoney notes.
Then don't expect people to put their bodies on the line for your entertainment. Just fold the team now.
Oh my.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by MrCraig » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:24 pm

AppDawg wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:27 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Like so many other things in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.
For the top players in the portal it is about $$$. The large majority though, likely playing time or something else.

On3 has annual portal stats… overall count of players that enter the portal, # that transfer, # that withdraw and # that never land any where.

Not counting current year, but prior 3 years something like 3,000 total players entered annually. Of those, ~1,000 / year never landed anywhere.

As someone else pointed out, only a select few of our players that enter move to p4 - Noel/McLeod come to mind. The overwhelming majority land in a lesser G5 or FCS school. Hard time believing those moves are for the almighty dollar.
So, why all the fuss? Why has almost every thread on this site devolved into how "the game has changed" and "they've ruined college football," when most of these players aren't making mega bucks and most of them are just scrubbing out when they enter "the portal"?

I've said it before, most of this stuff doesn't bother me that much. The game really hasn't changed THAT much, it's all just above the table and out in the open. However, I know that isn't a popular opinion.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by DoesntEvenGoHere » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:28 pm

No chance this guy is in the portal because he has no idea who his position coach is, who the d coordinator will be, etc? We just jump to "Go on, get out! Your just chasing money!!!"

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDawg » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:30 pm

Read this elsewhere… and I kinda like it. Do away with the scholarship.

Pay all 415 athletes $50,000 annually (full cost of attendance) and make it up to the player can choose how to spend. $50k is a number provided by our Athletic Dept. Upon entering into this agreement, Provide the caveats:
  • Players are responsible for paying Tuition, Room & Board, Food, etc.
  • Must be in good standing with the University academically and financially to play.
Make them even more accountable and take opportunity to teach additional life skills and true value being provided to them above and beyond any other student.

Bring the value of an education back
Into the discussion.

This is kinda like a High Deductible Medical Plan… gives the consumer greater visibility into the true cost of medical services being provided.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:47 pm

Bringing the value of the educational opportunity afforded, however it’s done , to the forefront of the discussion, resonates here.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:12 pm

The system in its current form is designed to eat itself. Once the schools get involved with in house NIL, the lawyers will line up for gender equity in the distribution of NIL. The playing field is going to get leveled across tiers and that creates parity. No way the Texas’ and Ohio States’ of college football are going to settle for 8-4 seasons.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:14 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by appdaze » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:21 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:14 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.
I guess you don't bother reading everything as I don't criticize fans for leaving. I'm criticizing those going after these young men for trying to find a pay day. I've already stated my own monetary position. I do believe fans are very spoiled at this point and are lashing out at the wrong people. It's like if the price of burgers go up then you go beat up the teenager at the cash register and tell them they are the problem and they should stop being so greedy to require burger prices to be higher. Then if those same workers leave for a better paying job you call them greedy pieces of shit and they should just piss off.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by goapps93 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:24 pm

Are our transfers rallying get a pay day by transferring to Tulane and other G5 schools?
WE ARE YOSEF!

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by appdaze » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:32 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:24 pm
Are our transfers rallying get a pay day by transferring to Tulane and other G5 schools?
I don't think a lot of them do honestly, but that doesn't mean that many many many will try. Remember the NBA draft when they let highschoolers join? A lot of 17-18 year olds wanted their futures thinking they were nba ready and then couldn't play college ball and busted out completely. I think a lot of portal is that outside of those transferring for family/personal reasons.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:47 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:21 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:14 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.
I guess you don't bother reading everything as I don't criticize fans for leaving. I'm criticizing those going after these young men for trying to find a pay day. I've already stated my own monetary position. I do believe fans are very spoiled at this point and are lashing out at the wrong people. It's like if the price of burgers go up then you go beat up the teenager at the cash register and tell them they are the problem and they should stop being so greedy to require burger prices to be higher. Then if those same workers leave for a better paying job you call them greedy pieces of shit and they should just piss off.
Fair enough and maybe you don’t read everything I post. At this point I actually blame the universities for getting involved in NIL and taking transfers they shouldn’t. But don’t post some heartfelt BS while you leave. And by the way, these guys already got a pay day, it’s called a free education and I chip in for that pay day.

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