App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

[Stonewall]

Thoughtful.

[Yosef10]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.

You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

[AppDawg]

I also went down a rabbit hole last night with the NCAA graduation rates… unfortunately, I think it will be 2 years before we know the true impact as the NCAA releases reports every other year, with NOV 2024 being the latest.

One thing I observed, we cannot just look at the published graduation rates. The devil is in the details. For instance, NCAA claims a 91% graduation rate for D1 all athletes receiving financial aid.

This number is derived by EXCLUDING all transfers OUT of an institution if in good academic standing.

Based on a rolling 4-year basis 2020-2023 the 6-yr graduation rate (students who initially enrolled in 2014-2017), there were 28,653 athletes in goof academic standing that transferred OUT. This same period shows of those, just 10,282 Transferred IN to another D1 Institution. A delta of ~18,000 that are excluded from any graduation calculation. That’s roughly 15% of all scholarship/aid receiving athletes that entered during this period ignored/dismissed to arrive at a 91% success rate.

Here is a link to 2024 report - the #’s I shared above are in the table on the very last page of this report:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/resear ... Trends.pdf

And link to how the rates are calculated with examples.
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/resear ... ulated.pdf

In both, pay close attention to the “footnotes” a lot of assumptions and qualifiers.

My take, a lot of smoke and mirrors within the numbers to make University Presidents and administrators feel good about themselves. In reality, I think the true graduation rate is somewhere between the Federal Graduation Success Rate (conservative calculation) and the much higher NCAA calculated Graduation Success Rate.

[bcoach]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.

You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

So you feel we are rich or even well off in this new climate?

[Saint3333]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.

You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

Academia funds terrible ideas almost as frequently as the government.

[ASUFan4863]

As far as transfer portal, today at midnight is the last day to enter the portal for this winter window. I believe the only exception to that is graduates can enter at any time.

Therefore, whoever hasn’t announced by today or tomorrow (to allow for processing), will likely be on the roster for spring ball.

[AppStFan1]

“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.

You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

Academia funds terrible ideas almost as frequently as the government.

So true. Easy to waste money when they are getting it from tax payers with no consequences to for fiscal responsibility. The more they waste the more they get.

[WASU 93]

Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?

“One last pay day”, isn’t the education supposed to get them a lifetime of pay days? Funny how when things get tuff and fans run for the exit they are bad fans but when things get a little bumpy and players leave they are just great young men trying to better themselves.

You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

The model is changing so fast, that the D1 that schools voted to move up to, isn’t the model they are moving up to.
In theory, they could be moving up to maintain their FCS status when the dust settles.

I wouldn’t classify G5 as small business, I would classify it as Mid-Market.

[bcoach]

You can’t see that college football is clearly big business? I can’t recommend the book The System by Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian enough.

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

Academia funds terrible ideas almost as frequently as the government.

So true. Easy to waste money when they are getting it from tax payers with no consequences to for fiscal responsibility. The more they waste the more they get.

People spending other peoples money.

[Mjohn1988]

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

Academia funds terrible ideas almost as frequently as the government.

So true. Easy to waste money when they are getting it from tax payers with no consequences to for fiscal responsibility. The more they waste the more they get.

People spending other peoples money.

And when the government took over the student loan programs academia was given a blank check to spend at will.

[AppStFan1]

P4 is big business. G5 is a small business and there is a huge difference. Many to most small businesses are just getting by and can't afford the luxuries that big business can. Folks keep throwing around statements about " college football" like it is all the same and it is not. This "universities making billions" off the backs of the players is nonsense when it comes to G5. If it were true, then there would be no need for collectives. You just use the "profits" the department makes and call it a day because, hell there are billions to split up. If you need a go fund me to run your business you actually don't have a business at all.
So, no G5 is not big business. G5 is a struggling small business at best.

If it’s such bad business universities wouldnt keep funding the departments year after year and schools wouldn’t keep moving up to FBS. They’ll always have folks buying the cries of being poor tho.

Academia funds terrible ideas almost as frequently as the government.

So true. Easy to waste money when they are getting it from tax payers with no consequences to for fiscal responsibility. The more they waste the more they get.

People spending other peoples money.

Indeed!

[AppStFan1]

Grant Tucker to Wofford. 4-star recruit according to 247. Another example of the ratings not being accurate. I would take a class of our 2-star standouts Jean-Charles, Jackson, Nick Hampton, Hodges, Noah Hannon, Steven Jones, Peoples, etc over all of our 4-star guys combined.

[Seattleapp]

I find myself caring less by the day. Based on Holiday party conversations over the weekend, it is obvious that many supporters of schools across the region feel the same way.

I think what’s lost on a lot of people is the relationships between the fans and the players. In the past fans got a chance to watch players grow into starting roles. Fans got to a degree, invested in the players. Money and the portal are straining that relationship. I watched the S. Dakota, Montana State game on Saturday and got a perfect example of the fan to player relationship. Montana States QB was a 4 or 5 year guy and those fans love that guy. Seems some think winning alone will be enough to keep fans involved, I’m not so sure.

Couldn’t agree more. I follow the bengals a bit because of ADG. In this day and age he woulda been poached from app asap.

[704App]

Grant Tucker to Wofford. 4-star recruit according to 247. Another example of the ratings not being accurate. I would take a class of our 2-star standouts Jean-Charles, Jackson, Nick Hampton, Hodges, Noah Hannon, Steven Jones, Peoples, etc over all of our 4-star guys combined.

To be fair, wasn't Tucker a 4 star LB but he came to App because we gave him the opportunity to play WR at this level and nobody else would? I don't think he was a 4 star WR... I could be wrong, but all his recruiting tape and mentions is him being a P4 starter on defense.

[AppStFan1]

Grant Tucker to Wofford. 4-star recruit according to 247. Another example of the ratings not being accurate. I would take a class of our 2-star standouts Jean-Charles, Jackson, Nick Hampton, Hodges, Noah Hannon, Steven Jones, Peoples, etc over all of our 4-star guys combined.

To be fair, wasn't Tucker a 4 star LB but he came to App because we gave him the opportunity to play WR at this level and nobody else would? I don't think he was a 4 star WR... I could be wrong, but all his recruiting tape and mentions is him being a P4 starter on defense.

Listed as athlete but 247 said he was a future draft pick.
https://247sports.com/player/grant-tuck ... ol-261091/

[Appy137]

Just saw that Joey A has gone to UCLA
Saw it on 247

[Saint3333]

Good luck Joey.

[ah59396]

Have a feeling he’s gonna ball out there. Good luck to him.

[T-Dog]

Joey's family made the coast-to-coast trip a lot of times. Now they only have to do it half as many times for away games.

[Seattleapp]

Have a feeling he’s gonna ball out there. Good luck to him.

Yeah be thinks the defenses might be a bit tougher. His off the back foot slinging will result in even more turnovers