This is a very good point. I like having some people with a NFL background as long as they have been in college a while and understand what this level is like as well. Success at one level does not guarantee it at another level. I agree with you that Nunn struggled for sure and we need people who can recruit. We also need people who can get QB and OL evals right because we have struggled with that lately. Hopefully DL is going to make changes in recruiting by the summer as well.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:17 amBe cautious of these NFL back to college hires, Robert Nunn was one that didn't work out under #TeamClark, Dale Jones wanted to hire him, they were friends from years ago.
Nunn was always focused on getting back into the NFL, wanted his retirement pension, needed 1 year. He struggled with college recruiting and mentoring time with college players. In the pros everyone shows up to work and does their job and goes on about their way, college is 24/7 365.
I think the NFL knows this and puts hiring freezes on a lot of these 10-15 year coaches to avoid that pension payments.
The new staff salary pool will be something to see, what is DG giving CDL to work with, obviously way more than the previous coaches had.
Should be interesting.
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If you are throwing into triple coverage, someone was open.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:20 pmHe had a down year but I think we are going to find out if it was really on him or possibly coaching or what. Even if he blows it up at UCLA it does not take away the struggles at App but for him he is lucky to get this extra year to make those corrections.NewApp wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:10 pmAppState89 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:21 amPortal Out:
Jack Hollifield - Tulane
Anderson Castle - Duke
Makia Jackson - Indiana
Joey Aguliar - UCLA
Nate Johnson - Mizzu
Thomas Shrader - South Florida
Santana Hopper - Tulane ???????
Grant Tucker - Wofford ??????
Well, maybe we won't hear any more forum criticism of Joey.
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All 4 were open...just 3 of them were on the other team.bcoach wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:08 amIf you are throwing into triple coverage, someone was open.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:20 pmHe had a down year but I think we are going to find out if it was really on him or possibly coaching or what. Even if he blows it up at UCLA it does not take away the struggles at App but for him he is lucky to get this extra year to make those corrections.NewApp wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:10 pmAppState89 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:21 amPortal Out:
Jack Hollifield - Tulane
Anderson Castle - Duke
Makia Jackson - Indiana
Joey Aguliar - UCLA
Nate Johnson - Mizzu
Thomas Shrader - South Florida
Santana Hopper - Tulane ???????
Grant Tucker - Wofford ??????
Well, maybe we won't hear any more forum criticism of Joey.
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There was definitely someone open.bcoach wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:08 amIf you are throwing into triple coverage, someone was open.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:20 pmHe had a down year but I think we are going to find out if it was really on him or possibly coaching or what. Even if he blows it up at UCLA it does not take away the struggles at App but for him he is lucky to get this extra year to make those corrections.NewApp wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:10 pmAppState89 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:21 amPortal Out:
Jack Hollifield - Tulane
Anderson Castle - Duke
Makia Jackson - Indiana
Joey Aguliar - UCLA
Nate Johnson - Mizzu
Thomas Shrader - South Florida
Santana Hopper - Tulane ???????
Grant Tucker - Wofford ??????
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Negotiations . Back and forth . New entries into the mix. A lot of work being done.
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Damn folks, any chance you can bail on the anti Joey stuff? Why keep hashing it over and over? Do you have to make the comment to show you were right and everyone else was wrong? The kid did a lot of good things for us. Not always good decisions, but how many QB’s do you see in a year do better? A few?
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You have Coach DLo with NFL experience. Dj Smith with NFL experience. Now Curtis Fuller with NFL experience. I don't think we have ever had a coaching staff with this much NFL experience. I know that doesn't always translate to college but all these guys have coached college as well..... I think DG and App State may have went all in on this round of coaching. We might reach heights we have never reached before. When DLo was first announced I wasn't convinced but now I just can't believe the NFL coaching talent we have.
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It’s great Joey could go back West and finish his career. Add in the bag don’t see how you can fault him. We are a training program for the big boys. Might as well accept it.
Grabbing at straws but we could also benefit. Let’s say a good player is recruited by ACC program but feels he might be buried on the depth chart for a few years. Come to a program like App and excel and the bag comes quicker and its larger.
Grabbing at straws but we could also benefit. Let’s say a good player is recruited by ACC program but feels he might be buried on the depth chart for a few years. Come to a program like App and excel and the bag comes quicker and its larger.
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Could, but they would really want to get playing time over money since it seems most backups at P4 schools are getting more NIL money than our starters.
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Depends on the dough. If you excel and then transfer the payout is bigger than buried on a depth chart. Just trying to dream of any scenario where we stay halfway relevant. Agree not likely.
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We have 4 that have announced and I would bet a couple more announce by the end of the weekend.
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This is Appalachian's attempt to counter the other NFL college coach in the state.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:38 pmYou have Coach DLo with NFL experience. Dj Smith with NFL experience. Now Curtis Fuller with NFL experience. I don't think we have ever had a coaching staff with this much NFL experience. I know that doesn't always translate to college but all these guys have coached college as well..... I think DG and App State may have went all in on this round of coaching. We might reach heights we have never reached before. When DLo was first announced I wasn't convinced but now I just can't believe the NFL coaching talent we have.
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Gillin recently said having 39 transfers, as the 2024 team did, was too many. So I would wager we see more high school kids signing.
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How many rings do they have?AppWyo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:15 pmThis is Appalachian's attempt to counter the other NFL college coach in the state.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:38 pmYou have Coach DLo with NFL experience. Dj Smith with NFL experience. Now Curtis Fuller with NFL experience. I don't think we have ever had a coaching staff with this much NFL experience. I know that doesn't always translate to college but all these guys have coached college as well..... I think DG and App State may have went all in on this round of coaching. We might reach heights we have never reached before. When DLo was first announced I wasn't convinced but now I just can't believe the NFL coaching talent we have.
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Assuming you mean Belichick, it won' even be close when he is done. He has much more money to play with and his name alone puts the Holes ahead in the game. Not to mention he's bringing with him and NFL GM. Highly doubt App is trying to counter anything he does. Working on two different levels.AppWyo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:15 pmThis is Appalachian's attempt to counter the other NFL college coach in the state.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:38 pmYou have Coach DLo with NFL experience. Dj Smith with NFL experience. Now Curtis Fuller with NFL experience. I don't think we have ever had a coaching staff with this much NFL experience. I know that doesn't always translate to college but all these guys have coached college as well..... I think DG and App State may have went all in on this round of coaching. We might reach heights we have never reached before. When DLo was first announced I wasn't convinced but now I just can't believe the NFL coaching talent we have.
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Agreed. My hope , as a fan, is for App. St. to be good enough to be the G5 rep in the playoff from time to time as long as G5 has an opportunity. The every year hope is to win the SBC regular season and championship.AppDub wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:08 amAssuming you mean Belichick, it won' even be close when he is done. He has much more money to play with and his name alone puts the Holes ahead in the game. Not to mention he's bringing with him and NFL GM. Highly doubt App is trying to counter anything he does. Working on two different levels.AppWyo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:15 pmThis is Appalachian's attempt to counter the other NFL college coach in the state.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:38 pmYou have Coach DLo with NFL experience. Dj Smith with NFL experience. Now Curtis Fuller with NFL experience. I don't think we have ever had a coaching staff with this much NFL experience. I know that doesn't always translate to college but all these guys have coached college as well..... I think DG and App State may have went all in on this round of coaching. We might reach heights we have never reached before. When DLo was first announced I wasn't convinced but now I just can't believe the NFL coaching talent we have.
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With all due respect to Gillin, not sure I care that much about what he thinks about the number of transfers…. Jerry Jones. What’s his coaching record?? Just need to continue to raise more NIL and $$$$.