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I trust your math. We will either have to cut double digit walk ons or not bring in more transfers after spring. Cutting seems more likely. I believe we have to be at 105 max
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Thanks for pulling this together, T. It will be interesting to see how many players roll out after spring practice. Let’s hope the kids do their best and meet expectations, since the spring TP pickings are usually pretty thin.
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I hope Coach DLo and his team can light a fire under Stroman. No more half way doing anymore.
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I think Dalton is a good kid and really hope he steps up this season. The inconsistency in drive/execution we’ve seen from him in the past won’t fly with this new staff.
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We don't have to be at 105. That will be the new max when they expand rosters but a lot of schools are short of 85 every year now. Would the extra money spent be worth just having another 20 players that don't see the field?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:26 pmI trust your math. We will either have to cut double digit walk ons or not bring in more transfers after spring. Cutting seems more likely. I believe we have to be at 105 max
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We won’t get 105 scholarship kids but we will get around 85 as normal. Right now we have about 75ish with 30+ walk ons. Some walk ons will be cut for scholarship guys.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:56 pmWe don't have to be at 105. That will be the new max when they expand rosters but a lot of schools are short of 85 every year now. Would the extra money spent be worth just having another 20 players that don't see the field?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:26 pmI trust your math. We will either have to cut double digit walk ons or not bring in more transfers after spring. Cutting seems more likely. I believe we have to be at 105 max
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I imagine some of the guys on my list won't be there in a week due to regular walk on attrition.
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I will be curious to see how many of those walk-ons we decide to keep if the 105 limit is made official before the season.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:16 pmWe won’t get 105 scholarship kids but we will get around 85 as normal. Right now we have about 75ish with 30+ walk ons. Some walk ons will be cut for scholarship guys.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:56 pmWe don't have to be at 105. That will be the new max when they expand rosters but a lot of schools are short of 85 every year now. Would the extra money spent be worth just having another 20 players that don't see the field?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:26 pmI trust your math. We will either have to cut double digit walk ons or not bring in more transfers after spring. Cutting seems more likely. I believe we have to be at 105 max
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We should actually have more walk-ons, because there will be more opportunities for them to actually receive a scholarship then in the past. We did not have a shortage of walk-ons when we moved up from the FCS 63 to the FBS 85.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:23 pmI will be curious to see how many of those walk-ons we decide to keep if the 105 limit is made official before the season.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:16 pmWe won’t get 105 scholarship kids but we will get around 85 as normal. Right now we have about 75ish with 30+ walk ons. Some walk ons will be cut for scholarship guys.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:56 pmWe don't have to be at 105. That will be the new max when they expand rosters but a lot of schools are short of 85 every year now. Would the extra money spent be worth just having another 20 players that don't see the field?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:26 pmI trust your math. We will either have to cut double digit walk ons or not bring in more transfers after spring. Cutting seems more likely. I believe we have to be at 105 max
The problem now is to have the scholarships fully funded.
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As opposed to bad faith lying such as "we came out of Clemson healthy" which erodes trust between a fanbase and a coach.
It doesn't have to be specific injuries. But a little bit of transparency would be an overall benefit and cost exactly zero wins.
I hope the Sun Belt starts mandating injury reports like the SEC and MAC did.
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Just my opinion, i hope we do not reveal injuries unless mandated. The coaches obligation is to win games not to give fans all access. If winning, fans will more than likely rally behind the coach. A coach has no responsibility to the fans to provide injury updates.if we have an NFL level talent that is dominating the league to the likes we have never had before, why would I reveal any information on injuries to help them gameplan... whether direct or indirectly. I will figure it out at kick-off and let opposing team as well. Really adds no value to me as a fan to know before a game. For gambling, that is a risk s gambler takes when placing a bet
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College football should mandate some level of reporting on injuries. But that regulation is far behind the regulation needed in other areas of CFB.
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Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:21 amAs opposed to bad faith lying such as "we came out of Clemson healthy" which erodes trust between a fanbase and a coach.
It doesn't have to be specific injuries. But a little bit of transparency would be an overall benefit and cost exactly zero wins.
I hope the Sun Belt starts mandating injury reports like the SEC and MAC did.
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I agree Monday is the day for health updates, other than " he is fine"AppSt94 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 amOverall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:21 amAs opposed to bad faith lying such as "we came out of Clemson healthy" which erodes trust between a fanbase and a coach.
It doesn't have to be specific injuries. But a little bit of transparency would be an overall benefit and cost exactly zero wins.
I hope the Sun Belt starts mandating injury reports like the SEC and MAC did.
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Perhaps the solution is for there to be an agreement between App media folks and the coach to not even ask the question about injuries. Don’t ask and there doesn’t need to be any answer at all. It’s a no win by the coach. Either lie, be evasive or give an answer that you are unsure about given the timing. If a key player gets carted off with an obvious serious injury we can all probably surmise the situation.
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So the trouble with reporting injuries is that if I am a coach I am going to lie about them to benefit me but you can't overlook the fact that gamblers will pressure them to lie to benefit them. Most people who want this want it because of gambling but they don't think about the issues that coaches and players deal with because of gambling. Players are getting death threats over gambling. A coach could literally list everyone as probable or questionable and make up an injury. There is no way to regulate and guarantee that injuries are 100% accurate without violating HIPAA i would think.
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That would help but a smart coach says no comment or only states if a player is out for the year or possibly a significant amount of time. Some head coaches will never talk about an injury while others will note that it was upper body or lower body and say if a player is out for the upcoming game or out for the season. The only people who really NEED to know about their injuries are the player, coaches, and NFL teams.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:34 amPerhaps the solution is for there to be an agreement between App media folks and the coach to not even ask the question about injuries. Don’t ask and there doesn’t need to be any answer at all. It’s a no win by the coach. Either lie, be evasive or give an answer that you are unsure about given the timing. If a key player gets carted off with an obvious serious injury we can all probably surmise the situation.
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Solid get; he brings a wealth of experience and prestige to the program, not to mention his potential impact on our QB room and ability to support DLO in his first gig as HC.