I like having Brendan and he is a good player but we got some good young guys with a lot of talent that don't have the injury history. If someone else is offering to pay him money then he should take it and we should save those funds. We can't ignore how many times he has suffered serious injury. Some moneyball has to be considered here. The most important ability is availability and we can't pretend that the odds of injury are low. I wish him well and feel like we will be fine at the position.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:02 pmWe live in a world of evaluating your team on a year to year basis with NIL. If 8 is the best player on the field at the position, I want him back. If a young guy is ready and does well, he may be gone after a year anyway. So, you end up in the same spot. College football players know the how the system works. Coach wants to make team better. Team will lose some to portal so some players may get opportunities earlier than expected. On the flip side, coach may land a gem replacement in the portal, so young guy will have competition for playing time or go somewhere else. In today's CFB, coaches and players live year by year. As such, if 8 were to give us best chance to win, I want 8 on the field in 2025...if we have that option....just my opinion as I see current state of affairs.
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Do you know if the agents have money offers and that is why Brendan is hitting the portal or did he just want a change of scenery? If they just bluffed and no offers I guess we will find out based on where he goes.
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I don’t know the specifics. I just know that everyone was excited for 2025 (which includes the coaches), a mere 48 hours ago. Anything beyond that is speculation but the situation points to an agent issue like you mentioned.
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There are a lot of agent issues going on. That is one area App State has never been good with. Who is his agent?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:57 pmI don’t know the specifics. I just know that everyone was excited for 2025 (which includes the coaches), a mere 48 hours ago. Anything beyond that is speculation but the situation points to an agent issue like you mentioned.
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Loyalty…like anyone on this board wouldn’t take a new job for double their salary. Some of y’all make me laugh
I left company A for company B. 3 months later, company C offered me a 20% raise so I went there. 9 months later, company A offered me a 25% raise so I went back (and they’ve taken good care of me since then). But if another respected company approached and offered another 20-25%, I’d be gone.
I’ve been through layoffs, both getting let go and having to let people go. Companies don’t have much, if any, loyalty, why should I?
College football players are now essentially employees. I’m fine with them getting paid what they can get paid. This isn’t the 1960s anymore.
I left company A for company B. 3 months later, company C offered me a 20% raise so I went there. 9 months later, company A offered me a 25% raise so I went back (and they’ve taken good care of me since then). But if another respected company approached and offered another 20-25%, I’d be gone.
I’ve been through layoffs, both getting let go and having to let people go. Companies don’t have much, if any, loyalty, why should I?
College football players are now essentially employees. I’m fine with them getting paid what they can get paid. This isn’t the 1960s anymore.
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Especially after 8 had already been here 6 years!!BeauFoster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:57 pmLoyalty…like anyone on this board wouldn’t take a new job for double their salary. Some of y’all make me laugh
I left company A for company B. 3 months later, company C offered me a 20% raise so I went there. 9 months later, company A offered me a 25% raise so I went back (and they’ve taken good care of me since then). But if another respected company approached and offered another 20-25%, I’d be gone.
I’ve been through layoffs, both getting let go and having to let people go. Companies don’t have much, if any, loyalty, why should I?
College football players are now essentially employees. I’m fine with them getting paid what they can get paid. This isn’t the 1960s anymore.
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I love Harrington but I find it hard to believe any team is offering him money. Seams like a fantastic young man and a heck of a player when he’s healthy but that’s been pretty rare. I wish him the best but I don’t think he’s leaving for money.
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I don't blame BH one bit. The man gave his all for Appalachian State for more years than most. He had NFL desires when he came here and those are basically shot now with his injuries.
If he now has an opportunity to earn money playing the game he can no longer (likely) make money after this season, I can't blame him.
Blame and hate on the system, or lack there of. But belittling a true Mountaineer for getting a paycheck is Ga Southern behavior.
If he now has an opportunity to earn money playing the game he can no longer (likely) make money after this season, I can't blame him.
Blame and hate on the system, or lack there of. But belittling a true Mountaineer for getting a paycheck is Ga Southern behavior.
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That is why I am asking about money offers because that is all that would make sense to me. I figured we would not offer him money but perhaps a team or two is willing to. If he is not leaving for money then not sure what would be the reason but I am fine either way. We have a lot of quality LBs and without the COVID year he would be gone anyway.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:58 pmI love Harrington but I find it hard to believe any team is offering him money. Seams like a fantastic young man and a heck of a player when he’s healthy but that’s been pretty rare. I wish him the best but I don’t think he’s leaving for money.
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I’ll say it again, love the guy. If I had to guess I would say he was getting a little something from us last year and that went away and he’s trying to see if anyone else will offer.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:22 pmThat is why I am asking about money offers because that is all that would make sense to me. I figured we would not offer him money but perhaps a team or two is willing to. If he is not leaving for money then not sure what would be the reason but I am fine either way. We have a lot of quality LBs and without the COVID year he would be gone anyway.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:58 pmI love Harrington but I find it hard to believe any team is offering him money. Seams like a fantastic young man and a heck of a player when he’s healthy but that’s been pretty rare. I wish him the best but I don’t think he’s leaving for money.
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I could see that and I don't blame him. He has a degree and has been here a long time and we have young guys ready to go so I think this would be ideal move for both sides if he wants to get paid. If he wants to return without getting paid I would take him but I feel like either way it would be fine for us. We either have a locker room leader and someone to teach younger guys or we see even more of some future standouts ready for their time.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:06 amI’ll say it again, love the guy. If I had to guess I would say he was getting a little something from us last year and that went away and he’s trying to see if anyone else will offer.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:22 pmThat is why I am asking about money offers because that is all that would make sense to me. I figured we would not offer him money but perhaps a team or two is willing to. If he is not leaving for money then not sure what would be the reason but I am fine either way. We have a lot of quality LBs and without the COVID year he would be gone anyway.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:58 pmI love Harrington but I find it hard to believe any team is offering him money. Seams like a fantastic young man and a heck of a player when he’s healthy but that’s been pretty rare. I wish him the best but I don’t think he’s leaving for money.
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At this point we would not have a leader. All we would have is a guy who thinks he is stuck here. Time to leave and this time for real.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:49 amI could see that and I don't blame him. He has a degree and has been here a long time and we have young guys ready to go so I think this would be ideal move for both sides if he wants to get paid. If he wants to return without getting paid I would take him but I feel like either way it would be fine for us. We either have a locker room leader and someone to teach younger guys or we see even more of some future standouts ready for their time.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:06 amI’ll say it again, love the guy. If I had to guess I would say he was getting a little something from us last year and that went away and he’s trying to see if anyone else will offer.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:22 pmThat is why I am asking about money offers because that is all that would make sense to me. I figured we would not offer him money but perhaps a team or two is willing to. If he is not leaving for money then not sure what would be the reason but I am fine either way. We have a lot of quality LBs and without the COVID year he would be gone anyway.
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Let me change the situation a little. It takes me 3 years to train you so that you are productive. So, I say I'll pay you $x but we understand that the first two years I'm losing money with the expectation of making it back in year 4. I'm committed to being loyal to you for 3 as long as you diligently work towards the goal of a year 4. Should there be loyalty ...whether it's contracted or not?BeauFoster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:57 pmLoyalty…like anyone on this board wouldn’t take a new job for double their salary. Some of y’all make me laugh
I left company A for company B. 3 months later, company C offered me a 20% raise so I went there. 9 months later, company A offered me a 25% raise so I went back (and they’ve taken good care of me since then). But if another respected company approached and offered another 20-25%, I’d be gone.
I’ve been through layoffs, both getting let go and having to let people go. Companies don’t have much, if any, loyalty, why should I?
College football players are now essentially employees. I’m fine with them getting paid what they can get paid. This isn’t the 1960s anymore.
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Fair point. What if the trainer invested in training the employee left before training was complete? A new trainer is assigned and wants every thing that was learned, to be unlearned and start over. Loyalty is a buzzword in a free market economy.mike87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:26 amLet me change the situation a little. It takes me 3 years to train you so that you are productive. So, I say I'll pay you $x but we understand that the first two years I'm losing money with the expectation of making it back in year 4. I'm committed to being loyal to you for 3 as long as you diligently work towards the goal of a year 4. Should there be loyalty ...whether it's contracted or not?BeauFoster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:57 pmLoyalty…like anyone on this board wouldn’t take a new job for double their salary. Some of y’all make me laugh
I left company A for company B. 3 months later, company C offered me a 20% raise so I went there. 9 months later, company A offered me a 25% raise so I went back (and they’ve taken good care of me since then). But if another respected company approached and offered another 20-25%, I’d be gone.
I’ve been through layoffs, both getting let go and having to let people go. Companies don’t have much, if any, loyalty, why should I?
College football players are now essentially employees. I’m fine with them getting paid what they can get paid. This isn’t the 1960s anymore.
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If someone quits or gets fired it's always the result of a failure. If the employer isn't holding up his end the employee should move on. The player could be underperforming in practice too and get cut. No issues with that.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:33 amFair point. What if the trainer invested in training the employee left before training was complete? A new trainer is assigned and wants every thing that was learned, to be unlearned and start over. Loyalty is a buzzword in a free market economy.mike87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:26 amLet me change the situation a little. It takes me 3 years to train you so that you are productive. So, I say I'll pay you $x but we understand that the first two years I'm losing money with the expectation of making it back in year 4. I'm committed to being loyal to you for 3 as long as you diligently work towards the goal of a year 4. Should there be loyalty ...whether it's contracted or not?BeauFoster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:57 pmLoyalty…like anyone on this board wouldn’t take a new job for double their salary. Some of y’all make me laugh
I left company A for company B. 3 months later, company C offered me a 20% raise so I went there. 9 months later, company A offered me a 25% raise so I went back (and they’ve taken good care of me since then). But if another respected company approached and offered another 20-25%, I’d be gone.
I’ve been through layoffs, both getting let go and having to let people go. Companies don’t have much, if any, loyalty, why should I?
College football players are now essentially employees. I’m fine with them getting paid what they can get paid. This isn’t the 1960s anymore.
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I have never believed in being a "company man" but I do believe in relationships. People you can trust.The relationship should be evaluated not the "company name". Especially when management has changed.
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Not what I meant. Substitute employer for AD/Head Coach. Trainer for position coach and employee for player. Coaches, particularly position coaches work on one year deals. Coach A recruits to preference in length. He spends 2 years training “coaching” the player to get him ready for playing time. After year two, Coach A leaves for a better job and his replacement, call him Coach B prefers twitch over length. Suddenly, the players loyalty to the program and commitment to the training is for not.mike87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:38 amIf someone quits or gets fired it's always the result of a failure. If the employer isn't holding up his end the employee should move on. The player could be underperforming in practice too and get cut. No issues with that.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:33 amFair point. What if the trainer invested in training the employee left before training was complete? A new trainer is assigned and wants every thing that was learned, to be unlearned and start over. Loyalty is a buzzword in a free market economy.mike87 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:26 amLet me change the situation a little. It takes me 3 years to train you so that you are productive. So, I say I'll pay you $x but we understand that the first two years I'm losing money with the expectation of making it back in year 4. I'm committed to being loyal to you for 3 as long as you diligently work towards the goal of a year 4. Should there be loyalty ...whether it's contracted or not?BeauFoster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:57 pmLoyalty…like anyone on this board wouldn’t take a new job for double their salary. Some of y’all make me laugh
I left company A for company B. 3 months later, company C offered me a 20% raise so I went there. 9 months later, company A offered me a 25% raise so I went back (and they’ve taken good care of me since then). But if another respected company approached and offered another 20-25%, I’d be gone.
I’ve been through layoffs, both getting let go and having to let people go. Companies don’t have much, if any, loyalty, why should I?
College football players are now essentially employees. I’m fine with them getting paid what they can get paid. This isn’t the 1960s anymore.
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He has shown to be good in past but I do agree with you that it is time to leave. Once a player says he wants to enter the portal I think we should move on and not take them back. You are either all in or you are out in my mind.bcoach wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:58 amAt this point we would not have a leader. All we would have is a guy who thinks he is stuck here. Time to leave and this time for real.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:49 amI could see that and I don't blame him. He has a degree and has been here a long time and we have young guys ready to go so I think this would be ideal move for both sides if he wants to get paid. If he wants to return without getting paid I would take him but I feel like either way it would be fine for us. We either have a locker room leader and someone to teach younger guys or we see even more of some future standouts ready for their time.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:06 amI’ll say it again, love the guy. If I had to guess I would say he was getting a little something from us last year and that went away and he’s trying to see if anyone else will offer.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:22 pmThat is why I am asking about money offers because that is all that would make sense to me. I figured we would not offer him money but perhaps a team or two is willing to. If he is not leaving for money then not sure what would be the reason but I am fine either way. We have a lot of quality LBs and without the COVID year he would be gone anyway.
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Hmmm, we would not have Kanye back just as an example
That is not the playing field in today's CFB..one (the school) cannot take it personally that a player enters the portal. It is no different than free agency. Free agents can sign with existing teams. No reason to take it personally with a mentality that a school will not take a player back. If the player, no matter the position, is the best player fur your team, you take them back if they want to come back....under the assumption they have been good teammates, student, in the community, etc.
The goal is to win games and win championships. I do not want to pass on a player that can help get to that goal...
That is not the playing field in today's CFB..one (the school) cannot take it personally that a player enters the portal. It is no different than free agency. Free agents can sign with existing teams. No reason to take it personally with a mentality that a school will not take a player back. If the player, no matter the position, is the best player fur your team, you take them back if they want to come back....under the assumption they have been good teammates, student, in the community, etc.
The goal is to win games and win championships. I do not want to pass on a player that can help get to that goal...
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