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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by AppGrad20 » Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:44 pm

Coach Kerns was just interviewed on the radio. Incredibly defeated tone and talked about how draining the past 18 months has been on him. It’s a new era of college sports. Hope he’s able to take some time off before recruiting starts back up.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:49 pm

Well , that was bad. Good company the past few days but the team just fell flat . Thank you to the Huntleys for sharing their son with us. They are great people and he is a fine young man. I will miss them. I’ll have more to say about a lot of things going on with Athletics and the University but not tonight.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by ncman071 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:19 am

I love kerns but got to find some type of offensive system

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:33 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:10 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:08 pm
On to next year. Hope the portal is kind to us
The complete lack of any sort of offensive gameplan at the end of games is a much bigger concern. Kerns standing around and hoping Tate can win a bunch of one on ones is not a winning formula.
If you do not have good players, it doesn't matter what the coach does. Without Huntley or Tate, we are bottom of the SBC...and maybe vice versa to some degree...
IMO, we were a strong and quick point guard that could finish around the rim from winning the SBC...and I am not referring to a particular player no longer with program...just a general statement ...It would move Tate to the 2 position and changes dynamic on offense and better D on perimeter..
I may be wrong, however, Kerns style of play does appear attractive to portal players that want to play sn up tempo offense However, I am a Kerns fan overall.
As a couch potato coach, my larger issue last night was that there were several to many possessions that 2 appeared to be guarding their 4 (best shooter) and he shot over him on various occasions. I would have liked to see a better D person on 4. He had scored like 23 the night before.
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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by DenverOfTheEast » Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:09 am

hapapp wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:25 pm
WBB ends the season on an 8 game losing streak and MBB ends on a four game losing streak. We’ve not had a lot of success in the tourney (3-6) outside of ‘21.
Great job DG --- hiring NOT 1 But 2 coaches from a place called Presbyterian -- it's all on Doug, when baseball stinks and softball always stinks and then when Charlotte beats the brakes off our Football team in game 1 you all will finally maybe wake up and see through the cloudy BS.

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Unread post by agentpaul001 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:17 am

Which players are able to return next year? Does Jalil Beaubrun still have a year of eligibility?

Losing Huntley & Tate is a big blow but hopefully we have less turnover this season.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:49 am

DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:09 am
hapapp wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:25 pm
WBB ends the season on an 8 game losing streak and MBB ends on a four game losing streak. We’ve not had a lot of success in the tourney (3-6) outside of ‘21.
Great job DG --- hiring NOT 1 But 2 coaches from a place called Presbyterian -- it's all on Doug, when baseball stinks and softball always stinks and then when Charlotte beats the brakes off our Football team in game 1 you all will finally maybe wake up and see through the cloudy BS.
As usual on the wrong side of issues.


Both teams exceeded their talent level through mid-January/mid-Feb and then ran out of steam.


Both are excellent coaches.

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Unread post by MAD Doctor » Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:51 am

Burdened by what could have been.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by AppContrarian » Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:14 am

What other team in the Sun Belt has made the NCAA tournament, the NIT and won a regular season title since Kerns has been at App State? It’s really perplexing how many people on here seem to be trying to make the argument that one of the most successful stretches of basketball in program history has actually been an epic failure.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by QueencityApp » Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:22 am

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Let’s hope the three ball is alive and kicking in Pensacola. Keep FT’s above 70% and others besides Tate/Huntley to score some points. I like our chances tonight but not so sure on the -8.5 spread.
Well FT’s were good and others scored but just not enough. 20 total points for us in the second half sheesh!

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by appst89 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:25 am

DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:09 am
hapapp wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:25 pm
WBB ends the season on an 8 game losing streak and MBB ends on a four game losing streak. We’ve not had a lot of success in the tourney (3-6) outside of ‘21.
Great job DG --- hiring NOT 1 But 2 coaches from a place called Presbyterian -- it's all on Doug, when baseball stinks and softball always stinks and then when Charlotte beats the brakes off our Football team in game 1 you all will finally maybe wake up and see through the cloudy BS.
And you can revel in App’s failure, which is all you have ever wanted to do. Troll.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:07 am

It is a screwed up bracket. Would appreciate something more close to normal, something easier to follow, something not spread out over an entire week.

We are not the only team that fails to run a good play at the end of games. Duke doesn’t, neither does UNC, Arkansas, and many others. lol at the last close game Kansas played. But those schools have talent and say “give it to the best guy and clearout” but the percentages are bad there and it’s ugly. I’d say half the teams in the country have no good designs near the end of game. Maybe Purdue, Virginia comes to mind. Sometimes Clemson. I don’t watch the west coast.

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Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:09 am

I believe teams today are poorly coached, in general. Or maybe what Bobby Knight said, “Basketball is an over-coached but under-taught game.”

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Unread post by Seattleapp » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:38 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:33 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:10 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:08 pm
On to next year. Hope the portal is kind to us
The complete lack of any sort of offensive gameplan at the end of games is a much bigger concern. Kerns standing around and hoping Tate can win a bunch of one on ones is not a winning formula.
If you do not have good players, it doesn't matter what the coach does. Without Huntley or Tate, we are bottom of the SBC...and maybe vice versa to some degree...
IMO, we were a strong and quick point guard that could finish around the rim from winning the SBC...and I am not referring to a particular player no longer with program...just a general statement ...It would move Tate to the 2 position and changes dynamic on offense and better D on perimeter..
I may be wrong, however, Kerns style of play does appear attractive to portal players that want to play sn up tempo offense However, I am a Kerns fan overall.
As a couch potato coach, my larger issue last night was that there were several to many possessions that 2 appeared to be guarding their 4 (best shooter) and he shot over him on various occasions. I would have liked to see a better D person on 4. He had scored like 23 the night before.
Having a player like Huntley and a player like Tate is enough to develop around. Maybe not enough win the conference but enough to be at the top. There was talent around them. I just was disheartened to watch how the season ended. It’s up to the coaching staff to put his guys in the best position to succeed. The first half of yesterday’s game was pretty successful because other guys were involved. The second half was more if the same. No offensive flow and Tate gunning. 2-12 from the floor, 0-6 from 3 is impossible to overcome. He also has zero assists and 3 turnovers. That’s awful. So at some point kerns has to be the one to tell him to quit shooting and involve his teammates in other ways. Drive and dish. Be a decoy etc. But He didn’t do that at all over the last 3 weeks of the season and you saw what happened.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:40 am

The Arena is still a dump. Parking is good. Maybe 1,000 people at the game. We had opportunities get control a couple of times but just didn’t. Muttlieb played well , CJ too but that was about it. It’s clear that if you stop Tate you stop App. Teams figured that out. A couple of their guys have improved significantly since January. Difference makers. I really thought they would run out of gas. I was wrong. They deserved the win. Changed my flights from Tuesday to later today so I’m heading home this afternoon. Will ponder the state of the program but the reality is a year by year rebuild, like everyone else. Difficult for me to adapt but that’s the way it is.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by hapapp » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:52 am

AppContrarian wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:14 am
What other team in the Sun Belt has made the NCAA tournament, the NIT and won a regular season title since Kerns has been at App State? It’s really perplexing how many people on here seem to be trying to make the argument that one of the most successful stretches of basketball in program history has actually been an epic failure.
Of course, the standards for success for App basketball aren't exactly that high. That's not meant as a slam at Kerns because he has provided the program with a level of stability that has been missing for much of our modern basketball history. As for our post season participation, aside from our '21 SBC tourney run, we are something on the order of 3-10 in post season tournaments under Kerns.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by ncman071 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:32 am

Kerns took a program that didn't have a winning season in a freaking decade ..and has built a winning program. I don't get the absurd takes on this coach by some members here. He has not had a losing season

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by proasu89 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:46 am

ncman071 wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:32 am
Kerns took a program that didn't have a winning season in a freaking decade ..and has built a winning program. I don't get the absurd takes on this coach by some members here. He has not had a losing season
You are not wrong. However, the fade at the end of the season has us looking at the glaring struggles on offense. Coaches get paid well in the grand scheme of things so absurd takes come with the job…whether deserved or not.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:14 pm

Kerns is a good coach. Kerns has flaws. Those two are not mutually exclusive.

I don’t think we can do much better than Kerns but I just wish he had an effective offensive philosophy.

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Re: MBB, SBC tournament vs Old Dominion, Fri 3/7 8:30pm

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:26 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:14 pm
Kerns is a good coach. Kerns has flaws. Those two are not mutually exclusive.

I don’t think we can do much better than Kerns but I just wish he had an effective offensive philosophy.
I think he knows that it’s hard to get the best talent at App so we’ve got to slow it down and keep games close with solid defense. Limit other teams possessions and have a shot at the end. Just didn’t go our way late down the stretch. We were a player away on offense from being a 20 win team IMO, just didn’t have the umph this year on the roster outside of a couple guys.

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