NIL and future of NCAACF

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:48 pm

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I'm still pulling for App State football and In still watching. I won't be giving a bunch of money though. I don't long for the days of FCS. I also don't long for the days of playing in some random bowl. I never want to go back to playing Wofford, Citadel, or Samford..... Things change and we adapt. Eventually this will all get sorted out.
Agree with this as well.
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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Pisgahman1 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:12 am

Saw Arkansas is going to pass state tax free nil money.
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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:44 am

Pisgahman1 wrote:
Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:12 am
Saw Arkansas is going to pass state tax free nil money.
Stupidity

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:18 am

Pisgahman1 wrote:
Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:12 am
Saw Arkansas is going to pass state tax free nil money.
I hope the citizens who have to pay their taxes appreciate that.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:51 pm

bcoach wrote:
Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:18 am
Pisgahman1 wrote:
Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:12 am
Saw Arkansas is going to pass state tax free nil money.
I hope the citizens who have to pay their taxes appreciate that.
That’s going to go over like a fart in church.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:58 pm

Spellman is portaling again.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by KentHogan » Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:03 pm

So, this is related to the NIL mess.

I have always enjoyed watching college softball, but haven’t watched too much lately.

I decided this weekend to watch a few games including App and some nationally ranked teams.

There wasn’t a single mention of NIL, the portal, transfers, etc. They did talk about 4th year seniors, yes they still exist.

It was refreshing to actually watch a college sport with student athletes.

I’m sure NIL has touched softball to some extent, but not in a major way it appears.

Btw, the pitcher for Tennessee, Karlyn Pickens, is spectacular.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:22 pm

KentHogan wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:03 pm
So, this is related to the NIL mess.

I have always enjoyed watching college softball, but haven’t watched too much lately.

I decided this weekend to watch a few games including App and some nationally ranked teams.

There wasn’t a single mention of NIL, the portal, transfers, etc. They did talk about 4th year seniors, yes they still exist.

It was refreshing to actually watch a college sport with student athletes.

I’m sure NIL has touched softball to some extent, but not in a major way it appears.

Btw, the pitcher for Tennessee, Karlyn Pickens, is spectacular.
You see a lot more of the good aspects of NIL and the portal in the lower profile sports.

I have mentioned my teen daughters' looming colliegate field hockey careers here before, and in a sport like field hockey most of the changes I would consider to be positive. Running in those circles of former/current/future college players and their parents, what I hear is only about how nice it is that so and so girl was able to transfer from a school she hated to one where she was happy, or how she was able to get a few bucks and free gear posing for pictures with an Osaka brand hockey stick. And that is about.

The only way these changes seem to be affecting these sports is vague concerns/fears about football money no longer going to fund a broader athletic department offerings, tgough that still seems to be theoretical at this point.

The purer "love of the sport" types do still exist in lower profile sports, or at lower competition levels. That is what frustrates me about all this so much. In principle, theseare good and needed changes, but the obvious and predictable abuse is maddening, and the real 1000s ofcollege student athletes are being lost in the debate over a few, high profile professional minor league football teams.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:31 pm

AppfaninCAALand wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:22 pm
KentHogan wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:03 pm
So, this is related to the NIL mess.

I have always enjoyed watching college softball, but haven’t watched too much lately.

I decided this weekend to watch a few games including App and some nationally ranked teams.

There wasn’t a single mention of NIL, the portal, transfers, etc. They did talk about 4th year seniors, yes they still exist.

It was refreshing to actually watch a college sport with student athletes.

I’m sure NIL has touched softball to some extent, but not in a major way it appears.

Btw, the pitcher for Tennessee, Karlyn Pickens, is spectacular.
You see a lot more of the good aspects of NIL and the portal in the lower profile sports.

I have mentioned my teen daughters' looming colliegate field hockey careers here before, and in a sport like field hockey most of the changes I would consider to be positive. Running in those circles of former/current/future college players and their parents, what I hear is only about how nice it is that so and so girl was able to transfer from a school she hated to one where she was happy, or how she was able to get a few bucks and free gear posing for pictures with an Osaka brand hockey stick. And that is about.

The only way these changes seem to be affecting these sports is vague concerns/fears about football money no longer going to fund a broader athletic department offerings, tgough that still seems to be theoretical at this point.

The purer "love of the sport" types do still exist in lower profile sports, or at lower competition levels. That is what frustrates me about all this so much. In principle, theseare good and needed changes, but the obvious and predictable abuse is maddening, and the real 1000s ofcollege student athletes are being lost in the debate over a few, high profile professional minor league football teams.
That is how it was supposed to work across all sports.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by t4pizza » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:01 pm

You know it is out of control when 2 of the largest NIL earners in college this past year (Sanders and Ewers) will make far more in their last season in college than in their first NFL contracts. Looks like Carson Beck made a really smart move taking the 4 million at the U.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:49 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:31 pm
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:22 pm
KentHogan wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:03 pm
So, this is related to the NIL mess.

I have always enjoyed watching college softball, but haven’t watched too much lately.

I decided this weekend to watch a few games including App and some nationally ranked teams.

There wasn’t a single mention of NIL, the portal, transfers, etc. They did talk about 4th year seniors, yes they still exist.

It was refreshing to actually watch a college sport with student athletes.

I’m sure NIL has touched softball to some extent, but not in a major way it appears.

Btw, the pitcher for Tennessee, Karlyn Pickens, is spectacular.
You see a lot more of the good aspects of NIL and the portal in the lower profile sports.

I have mentioned my teen daughters' looming colliegate field hockey careers here before, and in a sport like field hockey most of the changes I would consider to be positive. Running in those circles of former/current/future college players and their parents, what I hear is only about how nice it is that so and so girl was able to transfer from a school she hated to one where she was happy, or how she was able to get a few bucks and free gear posing for pictures with an Osaka brand hockey stick. And that is about.

The only way these changes seem to be affecting these sports is vague concerns/fears about football money no longer going to fund a broader athletic department offerings, tgough that still seems to be theoretical at this point.

The purer "love of the sport" types do still exist in lower profile sports, or at lower competition levels. That is what frustrates me about all this so much. In principle, theseare good and needed changes, but the obvious and predictable abuse is maddening, and the real 1000s ofcollege student athletes are being lost in the debate over a few, high profile professional minor league football teams.
That is how it was supposed to work across all sports.
But did anyone think it would?

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by ASUTodd » Fri May 02, 2025 10:37 pm

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... lc-company University of Kentucky has made it's athletics department an LLC....

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by pop5app » Sat May 03, 2025 6:28 am

Saw an article in USA TODAY that said the President was considering an executive o
order addressing College Athletics, after a meeting with Nick Saban. I’m not able to add the article to this post…maybe one of you guys can.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sat May 03, 2025 9:19 am

Not sure what an EO does. It will have to be settled through the other chambers and made into law.....and then have to withstand lawsuits for viability.
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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat May 03, 2025 9:36 am

Perhaps it begins the process of creating a reasonable compromise structure.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sat May 03, 2025 11:23 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 9:19 am
Not sure what an EO does. It will have to be settled through the other chambers and made into law.....and then have to withstand lawsuits for viability.
Gotta start the ball rolling somewhere.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Appst86 » Sun May 04, 2025 7:49 am

pop5app wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 6:28 am
Saw an article in USA TODAY that said the President was considering an executive o
order addressing College Athletics, after a meeting with Nick Saban. I’m not able to add the article to this post…maybe one of you guys can.
This is from the WSJ-
https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/tru ... _permalink

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by mike87 » Mon May 05, 2025 8:11 am

As much as I enjoyed hating Saban, I'm becoming a fan.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon May 05, 2025 9:08 am

Well, just my opinion but although I completely agree that NIL needs to be reformed and have some governance applied, a presidential executive order is absolutely NOT the way to do it. Feel free to disagree.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by PhillyApp1 » Mon May 05, 2025 9:27 am

Yosef84 wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 9:08 am
Well, just my opinion but although I completely agree that NIL needs to be reformed and have some governance applied, a presidential executive order is absolutely NOT the way to do it. Feel free to disagree.
It's not yhe best way but, at this time, ITS ALL WE HAVE !

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