NIL and future of NCAACF

[BallantyneApp]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Buyouts work both ways.

Kids are getting fired now.

[AppSt94]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

That is my issue with the contracts. What if the kid isn’t a good student, has poor work ethic in the gym or gets in trouble or violates team rules? Asking an 18-19 year old kid to abide by a contract isn’t the same as asking a professional.

Then why do we have 18 year olds sign contracts to go off to war? Once again these are adults making adult decisions. They may be young adults but they are still adults. If they are kids then they shouldn't be allowed to buy cigarettes, join the military, or vote.

Contracts will eventually happen. At thay point they are professionals and only students by choice. We've talked about for years how teams will break away from the school itself and the schools will be the licensed logo and name people instead of the team owners. Its heading that way it's just a matter of time.

I don’t think that going to war or buying cigarettes is the same thing. Signing a contract to go play college sporta doesn’t motivate work ethic. Contracts may be the future. I’m just not sure that they solve anything in terms of making this model better.

[AppSt94]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Buyouts work both ways.

Kids are getting fired now.

I can’t imagine that donors and administrators want to pay a kid “not” to play.

[AppSt94]

We only had 11-12 athletes on the football team getting NIL last year.

[Saint3333]

In what ways would contracts make the situation worse?

Kind in mind contracts can written in a way to address the scenarios you are considering.

[BambooRdApp]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Non guaranteed contracts. Every NFL team has to deal with the issue...they cut players every day

[bcoach]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Buyouts work both ways.

Kids are getting fired now.

I can’t imagine that donors and administrators want to pay a kid “not” to play.

Exactly! If we don't have the money we want, to be able to buy players, where do we get the money to "fire" them.

[bcoach]

I think a whole lot of time and effort is being spent on trying to justify what was a very bad decision to begin with. Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, and always will be a bad idea.
Playing college sports is a privelage not something to be paid for.

[AppSt94]

Every solution creates a different set of issues. The arguments for contracts to this point on this board have been largely in support of them to the benefit to App by holding players accountable to staying and honoring the financial commitments to said contract. Yes you can have provisos and contingencies that establish benchmarks for honoring the contracts. Outside of academic progression and scrapes with law enforcement, most aren’t enforceable in a court of law. And it would get to that.

You also have to consider that these programs will need to account for buyouts for those that they want to cut ties. Players are going to want that money to honor the contract. I don’t think anyone wants to pay a kid not to play for them.

[AppSt94]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Non guaranteed contracts. Every NFL team has to deal with the issue...they cut players every day

Is that any better than the current system? This isn’t the NFL. The talent disparity is night and day. Only around 2% of all college football players make it to the NFL.

[BambooRdApp]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Non guaranteed contracts. Every NFL team has to deal with the issue...they cut players every day

Is that any better than the current system? This isn’t the NFL. The talent disparity is night and day. Only around 2% of all college football players make it to the NFL.

Do not know until something is implemented. People complaining about players leaving every year for a better deal. One way to curb it maybe is to increase cost to school attempting to buy the player.

[bcoach]

OR!!! College presidents grow a pair and say we don't pay people tp play a game. It is a benifit offered to students not the reason to attend. I know it is not going to happen but this is what happens when people stand around and just let things happen.

[AppSt94]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Non guaranteed contracts. Every NFL team has to deal with the issue...they cut players every day

Is that any better than the current system? This isn’t the NFL. The talent disparity is night and day. Only around 2% of all college football players make it to the NFL.

Do not know until something is implemented. People complaining about players leaving every year for a better deal. One way to curb it maybe is to increase cost to school attempting to buy the player.

I don’t disagree with you. But how can you prove such an accusation? Coaches aren’t going to tell on each other because they are likely doing the same thing or know someone who is.

The rule that coaches cannot contact until the player is in the portal. Are they all abiding by that? Are the ones that aren’t abiding doing it directly? Agents aren’t players so the level of interest can be gathered without talking to the player. Point is that it would be very hard to prove.

[Saint3333]

This isn’t as complicated as some think. The market will decide what is standard terms over time. Let’s go ahead get that process started.

[AppSt94]

Everything is made complicated when lawyers get involved.

[AppStFan1]

Some of the issues could be alleviated with multi year contracts. Make them with a very large buyout if player wants to transfer so developing school gets some renumeration for time spent developing player.
Does not solve all issues and sure it could be potentially challenged. But, try something and see what sticks

What if you want to fire the player?

Non guaranteed contracts. Every NFL team has to deal with the issue...they cut players every day

Is that any better than the current system? This isn’t the NFL. The talent disparity is night and day. Only around 2% of all college football players make it to the NFL.

Do not know until something is implemented. People complaining about players leaving every year for a better deal. One way to curb it maybe is to increase cost to school attempting to buy the player.

A lot of people are saying we need contracts with buyouts.

[AppStFan1]

This isn’t as complicated as some think. The market will decide what is standard terms over time. Let’s go ahead get that process started.

The prior system we had was not complicated but it was illegal so the rule of law is what complicates all of this.

[AppStFan1]

Everything is made complicated when lawyers get involved.

Indeed. Lawyers and NIL agents won't go quietly either. It will take lawful legislation to be done but we also need a CBA. I am not a fan of the NFLPA but the college players need to unionize so we can collectively bargain all of this ASAP so we can go ahead and set up a system similar to the NFL. You know why players are begging to get as many extra years as they can in college is because they know the NFL is way more controlled and the highest paid college players are making more than most rookies in the NFL right now.

[Saint3333]

It is inevitable, write it down and revisit this within two years.

I have as much clarity about this as I had with the NIL slippery slope, FBS transition, and not allowing kids to attend schools during COVID.