To be fair, Clemson fans also left in the 1st and 2nd quarters. Most were gone by half. But they were up by 40, not down by 40AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 10:35 amJust to be fair, if the same had happened at other schools, what percentage of those would have experienced the same reaction? Let's just reflect on the point in time of this situation, this was AFTER we got totally embarrassed at Clemson two weeks prior. The USA game was against a conference peer and it looked like we were totally out of our league like the Clemson game. How does a fan express dissatisfaction? I was completely disgusted in the product on the field at that moment. If I recall there were a lot of ex-players pissed off on social after that game as well.bcoach wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 9:57 amVery true, the fans really showed their ass.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:35 amI’ve never seen such a mass exodus in my life at a home football game. That was one of the lowest points of the program.
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Well wrong again "bud". YOU are the one who is trying to tie that one together because you have a problem with SC being a friend. I never made any mention of it being the fans fault for the loss. It was the fault of SC and the players. You are just not nearly as clever as you think you are.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 4:50 pmYou said the fans showed their ass and walked out on the team. Insinuating the fans were the reason for one of the worst losses in program history. I clarified for you that it was not the fans but your family friend. You are welcome. Nice try bud.bcoach wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 1:13 pmThat makes no sense.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 11:45 amSo the fans caused the team to be down 42-7 after the third quarter? That was probably your family friend Shawn Clark.bcoach wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 11:09 amSorry, thought I made that clear. It was the fans who walked out on the team.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 10:36 am
The team was losing 40 points to a historically inferior conference opponent on a weeknight game. Who showed their ass?
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Oooff that was terrible as well.Bootsy wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 4:53 pmAs rough as that was, I can think of another day at KBS that was worse: Sept 24, 2022ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 8:35 amI’ve never seen such a mass exodus in my life at a home football game. That was one of the lowest points of the program.
Somebody try and change my mind.
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It’s understandable to support NIL and the transfer portal — they’re now part of college athletics, and yes, players do deserve a piece of the revenue they help generate. But dismissing the concerns of longtime donors and season ticket holders as a “you problem” is reductive and misses the larger picture.Yosef10 wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 12:17 pmFor those who claim they’re not giving any money or buying season tickets anymore due to NIL and Portal - how have your fall Saturday’s in Boone changed one iota due to those two factors? The answer is none. If you truly have stopped giving etc., that’s simply a you problem, not any system. You don’t look any smarter or of any higher morality for coming to a message board and acting holier than thou because the labor finally began collecting a tiny bit on the revenue they generate.
I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to directly contribute to NIL funds, the admin takes a far too altruistic approach to that endeavor. I know I’m not going to give away my money just so the university doesn’t have to directly pay their labor, while receiving next to no incentive for doing so. But cutting off Yosef and season tickets just because you’re upset kids are collecting relatively small amounts of money for what they drive to the university says more about you than anything else.
Most donors aren’t upset that players are being compensated. NIL should have always been allowed, but what we have is not NIL, and to call it that is disingenuous. It is pay for play, pure and simple. Many are frustrated with how chaotic and transactional the system has become, especially in programs that previously built success on culture, development, and loyalty. NIL and the portal didn’t just let players earn money — they fundamentally reshaped the dynamics of roster building, competition, and identity. That matters to fans who’ve invested not just money but decades of emotional support into a program they believed represented more than just a stepping stone to a paycheck.
It’s also fair for fans to question where their dollars are going. If the administration’s NIL strategy is passive or unclear, donors may feel their contributions aren't being used effectively or in alignment with the program’s long-term health. That’s not selfishness — that’s stewardship.
Criticizing people for stepping back, instead of listening to why they feel alienated, risks deepening the divide between fans, players, and programs. Dismissing their values as "holier than thou" only ensures they won't return.
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Can say I disagree. I got my parking request to move approved which, while happy, was a cause for concern.
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Wonder how tough parking is to get? I just assumed I'm not high enough to get anything.
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Not surprised at all. There is great demand for our product despite having a subpar season last year, NIL, transfer portal, etc. I know we hear a lot of grumbling about people not donating and giving up tickets, but that stuff like that always happens when there is substantial change. Most times, there are eager fans waiting to take their place. Seems to be the case with football tickets at least.
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Good question. The Softball Lot is going offline so there is a trickle down effect to accommodate those folks. To me and my situation, the best option is still the 1st Baptist Church on King St.
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My only issue with 1st Baptist is we have kids soccer in the mornings and can't get up there too early. It is usually full.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:05 amGood question. The Softball Lot is going offline so there is a trickle down effect to accommodate those folks. To me and my situation, the best option is still the 1st Baptist Church on King St.
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Yep. It is definitely a high demand lot.biggie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:08 amMy only issue with 1st Baptist is we have kids soccer in the mornings and can't get up there too early. It is usually full.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:05 amGood question. The Softball Lot is going offline so there is a trickle down effect to accommodate those folks. To me and my situation, the best option is still the 1st Baptist Church on King St.
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Yep.t4pizza wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:00 amNot surprised at all. There is great demand for our product despite having a subpar season last year, NIL, transfer portal, etc. I know we hear a lot of grumbling about people not donating and giving up tickets, but that stuff like that always happens when there is substantial change. Most times, there are eager fans waiting to take their place. Seems to be the case with football tickets at least.
It's validating to see others share my view. Even more so to see four consecutive years of irrefutable proof (ie season ticket sales) demonstrating the same.
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To be fair, we don’t really know the demographics of those choosing to not renew and of those joining.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:40 amYep.t4pizza wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:00 amNot surprised at all. There is great demand for our product despite having a subpar season last year, NIL, transfer portal, etc. I know we hear a lot of grumbling about people not donating and giving up tickets, but that stuff like that always happens when there is substantial change. Most times, there are eager fans waiting to take their place. Seems to be the case with football tickets at least.
It's validating to see others share my view. Even more so to see four consecutive years of irrefutable proof (ie season ticket sales) demonstrating the same.
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Does that type of minutiae matter? There are people not renewing but there are more people who want to take their place.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:13 amTo be fair, we don’t really know the demographics of those choosing to not renew and of those joining.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:40 amYep.t4pizza wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:00 amNot surprised at all. There is great demand for our product despite having a subpar season last year, NIL, transfer portal, etc. I know we hear a lot of grumbling about people not donating and giving up tickets, but that stuff like that always happens when there is substantial change. Most times, there are eager fans waiting to take their place. Seems to be the case with football tickets at least.
It's validating to see others share my view. Even more so to see four consecutive years of irrefutable proof (ie season ticket sales) demonstrating the same.
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No it does not. Gonzo’s post was made with the assumptions that the older alumni are walking and are being replaced with the younger sect which was some sort of validation to his earlier diatribe against boomers. Point of fact is that unless you know and can prove such an assertion, it’s baseless.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:39 amDoes that type of minutiae matter? There are people not renewing but there are more people who want to take their place.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:13 amTo be fair, we don’t really know the demographics of those choosing to not renew and of those joining.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:40 amYep.t4pizza wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:00 amNot surprised at all. There is great demand for our product despite having a subpar season last year, NIL, transfer portal, etc. I know we hear a lot of grumbling about people not donating and giving up tickets, but that stuff like that always happens when there is substantial change. Most times, there are eager fans waiting to take their place. Seems to be the case with football tickets at least.
It's validating to see others share my view. Even more so to see four consecutive years of irrefutable proof (ie season ticket sales) demonstrating the same.
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I thought we had a good chance to sell out. .We sit 30+K available seating (even less for season tickets) and now consistently have 20k on campus each year. Sure there is attrition every year. Unless we go a decade of losing seasons, I feel good about odds of selling out season tickets.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 12:33 pmNo it does not. Gonzo’s post was made with the assumptions that the older alumni are walking and are being replaced with the younger sect which was some sort of validation to his earlier diatribe against boomers. Point of fact is that unless you know and can prove such an assertion, it’s baseless.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:39 amDoes that type of minutiae matter? There are people not renewing but there are more people who want to take their place.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:13 amTo be fair, we don’t really know the demographics of those choosing to not renew and of those joining.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:40 amYep.t4pizza wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:00 am
Not surprised at all. There is great demand for our product despite having a subpar season last year, NIL, transfer portal, etc. I know we hear a lot of grumbling about people not donating and giving up tickets, but that stuff like that always happens when there is substantial change. Most times, there are eager fans waiting to take their place. Seems to be the case with football tickets at least.
It's validating to see others share my view. Even more so to see four consecutive years of irrefutable proof (ie season ticket sales) demonstrating the same.
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Sure, but that is true of every business annually. Older customers are always being replaced with younger customers.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 12:33 pmNo it does not. Gonzo’s post was made with the assumptions that the older alumni are walking and are being replaced with the younger sect which was some sort of validation to his earlier diatribe against boomers. Point of fact is that unless you know and can prove such an assertion, it’s baseless.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:39 amDoes that type of minutiae matter? There are people not renewing but there are more people who want to take their place.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:13 amTo be fair, we don’t really know the demographics of those choosing to not renew and of those joining.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:40 amYep.t4pizza wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:00 am
Not surprised at all. There is great demand for our product despite having a subpar season last year, NIL, transfer portal, etc. I know we hear a lot of grumbling about people not donating and giving up tickets, but that stuff like that always happens when there is substantial change. Most times, there are eager fans waiting to take their place. Seems to be the case with football tickets at least.
It's validating to see others share my view. Even more so to see four consecutive years of irrefutable proof (ie season ticket sales) demonstrating the same.
To Gonzo’s point though, let’s not act like the older alumni aren’t the primary voices behind anti-NIL and transfer portal on this site and in general. There are several who have made the statement that they are no longer going to financially support that type of system after X amount of years.
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Older alumni are the ones that likely have the money. Those with money often time feel like that gives them the privilege to yell get off my lawn. That doesn’t always equate to them doing something about it. There are more than a few recent athletes that have voiced displeasure over NIL. Several isn’t an issue and doesn’t represent the overall sentiment.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 1:02 pmSure, but that is true of every business annually. Older customers are always being replaced with younger customers.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 12:33 pmNo it does not. Gonzo’s post was made with the assumptions that the older alumni are walking and are being replaced with the younger sect which was some sort of validation to his earlier diatribe against boomers. Point of fact is that unless you know and can prove such an assertion, it’s baseless.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:39 amDoes that type of minutiae matter? There are people not renewing but there are more people who want to take their place.
To Gonzo’s point though, let’s not act like the older alumni aren’t the primary voices behind anti-NIL and transfer portal on this site and in general. There are several who have made the statement that they are no longer going to financially support that type of system after X amount of years.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... l-michigan
When you are designated by ESPN writers as one of the top 25 stadiums then it creates demand for people to check that off of their bucket list. So, I imagine some of those season ticket holders to sell their tickets at a premium. Some season ticket holders see season tickets as an investment on future return.
Also, it is fun to attend a game at the Rock. It was even fun when every game was Black Saturday.
When you are designated by ESPN writers as one of the top 25 stadiums then it creates demand for people to check that off of their bucket list. So, I imagine some of those season ticket holders to sell their tickets at a premium. Some season ticket holders see season tickets as an investment on future return.
Also, it is fun to attend a game at the Rock. It was even fun when every game was Black Saturday.