Best QB passer in App State football history?

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:45 am

Joe was the best QB at drinking beer at Klondike on a Thursday and running over LBers on Saturday.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by Black Saturday » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:04 am

AppSt94 wrote:
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Smartest - Taylor Lamb
Toughest - Zac Thomas
Best Athlete - AE
Best Passer - Brice
Game Manager - Lamb
Competitor - Aguilar
I like your list AE is the best athlete, I think AE was one hell of a competitor, and I heard JM say he was the toughest player he'd ever coached. AE is the one QB that can be first in several of the categories, that's why he's the GOAT.
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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:12 am

Saint3333 wrote:
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Joe was the best QB at drinking beer at Klondike on a Thursday and running over LBers on Saturday.
This is definitely true. They also called him Smokey Joe for a reason. I really wish he would have treated his body better and been more focused. I firmly believe that he partied less and studied the game more that he would have not thrown 15 picks as senior and would have been among the top 4-5 QBs in all of I-AA that year.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by ah59396 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:16 am

Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:04 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 7:17 am
Smartest - Taylor Lamb
Toughest - Zac Thomas
Best Athlete - AE
Best Passer - Brice
Game Manager - Lamb
Competitor - Aguilar
I like your list AE is the best athlete, I think AE was one hell of a competitor, and I heard JM say he was the toughest player he'd ever coached. AE is the one QB that can be first in several of the categories, that's why he's the GOAT.
Some of the contact AE used to take scared me to death. And often it was him lowering his own shoulder. Especially given how lean he was.

I was always amazed he would pop right back up after running for 30 yards and going shoulder to shoulder with a safety. And then throw a 20 yard dime.
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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:20 am

ah59396 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:16 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:04 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 7:17 am
Smartest - Taylor Lamb
Toughest - Zac Thomas
Best Athlete - AE
Best Passer - Brice
Game Manager - Lamb
Competitor - Aguilar
I like your list AE is the best athlete, I think AE was one hell of a competitor, and I heard JM say he was the toughest player he'd ever coached. AE is the one QB that can be first in several of the categories, that's why he's the GOAT.
Some of the contact AE used to take scared me to death. And often it was him lowering his own shoulder. Especially given how lean he was.

I was always amazed he would pop right back up after running for 30 yards and going shoulder to shoulder with a safety. And then throw a 20 yard dime.
100%. To me he was our toughest overall but what Richie did made me say him first. He and AE both are our top 2 for sure.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by appdaze » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:25 am

Travaris Cadet was the best athlete to play QB for us. These others like AE were great for us, but if we're talking just athletic ability, its Cadet. Could play any position he was asked to, then went on to play 7 years in various roles in thr NFL.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AppinVA » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:43 am

appdaze wrote:
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Travaris Cadet was the best athlete to play QB for us. These others like AE were great for us, but if we're talking just athletic ability, its Cadet. Could play any position he was asked to, then went on to play 7 years in various roles in thr NFL.
It could be argued he’s our best overall athlete.
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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by t4pizza » Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:47 am

I will go with Brice as the best passer because I think that also includes decision making in that description of a passer. I think Joey and Brice are right there with each other but Brice made better decisions so I give him the slight nod in the best passer category.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by JTApps1 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:05 am

Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:04 am
MrCraig wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:25 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 7:17 am
Smartest - Taylor Lamb
Toughest - Zac Thomas
Best Athlete - AE
Best Passer - Brice
Game Manager - Lamb
Competitor - Aguilar
I wonder how we might view these QBs if they had played under different coaches. Satt seemed to really understand Lamb's positives and negatives and game-planned well around that. IDK if Clark would have been able to do that. Conversely, I don't think Aguilar's passing numbers are as crazy if he plays under Satt because the run game was always first option. I could be wrong. I'm just spitballing.
Of course pure speculation and very biased, but if Satt or Drink coached Joey (and he had a similar leash as Clark) Joey would have run 4-5 times more per game. I also think Joey's INT numbers would have been down about 30%. We put Joey is a tough spot more than necessary last year.
It'll be interesting to see how he performs at UT this fall. I tend to think those around him (players and staff) didn't help him succeed last year. We'll likely have a good idea of the truth soon.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:10 am

JTApps1 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:05 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:04 am
MrCraig wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:25 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 7:17 am
Smartest - Taylor Lamb
Toughest - Zac Thomas
Best Athlete - AE
Best Passer - Brice
Game Manager - Lamb
Competitor - Aguilar
I wonder how we might view these QBs if they had played under different coaches. Satt seemed to really understand Lamb's positives and negatives and game-planned well around that. IDK if Clark would have been able to do that. Conversely, I don't think Aguilar's passing numbers are as crazy if he plays under Satt because the run game was always first option. I could be wrong. I'm just spitballing.
Of course pure speculation and very biased, but if Satt or Drink coached Joey (and he had a similar leash as Clark) Joey would have run 4-5 times more per game. I also think Joey's INT numbers would have been down about 30%. We put Joey is a tough spot more than necessary last year.
It'll be interesting to see how he performs at UT this fall. I tend to think those around him (players and staff) didn't help him succeed last year. We'll likely have a good idea of the truth soon.
I do not believe Tenn has the talent as they had last. Last year's OL was suspect and may be even more suspect this year. Joey is going to need all the creativity that he has to avoid the rush this year.
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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:22 am

appdaze wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:25 am
Travaris Cadet was the best athlete to play QB for us. These others like AE were great for us, but if we're talking just athletic ability, its Cadet. Could play any position he was asked to, then went on to play 7 years in various roles in thr NFL.
He certainly was. I was thinking of him as a RB instead of a QB since he only played QB as a backup for one year at App and contributed at WR and RB. DeAndre Presley is another one. High level athlete who could play QB and CB. He made the All-SoCon team at QB.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:27 am

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Surprised no one has mentioned Zac Thomas yet, that kid was tough as nails. Will never forget watching him almost lead us to victory in Happy Valley, best games I've ever been to
Zac was a stud that night in Happy Valley. He was threading the needle all night long. That was definitely his best game when the big lights were on him

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by Black Saturday » Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:30 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:12 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:45 am
Joe was the best QB at drinking beer at Klondike on a Thursday and running over LBers on Saturday.
This is definitely true. They also called him Smokey Joe for a reason. I really wish he would have treated his body better and been more focused. I firmly believe that he partied less and studied the game more that he would have not thrown 15 picks as senior and would have been among the top 4-5 QBs in all of I-AA that year.
He partied like Kenny Stabler
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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by Black Saturday » Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:37 pm

How about Randy Joyce, any of you old enough to remember him?
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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by MDaniels » Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:23 pm

He could throw 50 yards on a rope if you asked him to. With a beer in one hand....

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:39 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:30 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:12 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:45 am
Joe was the best QB at drinking beer at Klondike on a Thursday and running over LBers on Saturday.
This is definitely true. They also called him Smokey Joe for a reason. I really wish he would have treated his body better and been more focused. I firmly believe that he partied less and studied the game more that he would have not thrown 15 picks as senior and would have been among the top 4-5 QBs in all of I-AA that year.
He partied like Kenny Stabler
That is no joke.

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:42 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:27 am
2016Yosefgrad wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:58 am
Surprised no one has mentioned Zac Thomas yet, that kid was tough as nails. Will never forget watching him almost lead us to victory in Happy Valley, best games I've ever been to
Zac was a stud that night in Happy Valley. He was threading the needle all night long. That was definitely his best game when the big lights were on him
That was very impressive. I go with AE over him because he went into Michigan and pulled out the win or Richie Williams because he was ruled out for the game on crutches and came in during the second half to rescue us and deliver us our first title win.

With the Sun Belt having injury reports now I wonder what we would have listed Richie going into that game and if that would have dictated if we played him. It just might be smart to list all players as questionable so you can ride the fence and truly make game-time decisions lol

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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by BeauFoster » Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:05 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:42 pm
AtlAppMan wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:27 am
2016Yosefgrad wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:58 am
Surprised no one has mentioned Zac Thomas yet, that kid was tough as nails. Will never forget watching him almost lead us to victory in Happy Valley, best games I've ever been to
Zac was a stud that night in Happy Valley. He was threading the needle all night long. That was definitely his best game when the big lights were on him
That was very impressive. I go with AE over him because he went into Michigan and pulled out the win or Richie Williams because he was ruled out for the game on crutches and came in during the second half to rescue us and deliver us our first title win.

With the Sun Belt having injury reports now I wonder what we would have listed Richie going into that game and if that would have dictated if we played him. It just might be smart to list all players as questionable so you can ride the fence and truly make game-time decisions lol
I’d guess that the only time a player will be listed as out is when there is really no doubt - like Kanye this season.

Injury reports are for gamblers, not for fans or opposing coaches
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Re: Best QB passer in App State football history?

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:36 pm

BeauFoster wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:05 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:42 pm
AtlAppMan wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:27 am
2016Yosefgrad wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:58 am
Surprised no one has mentioned Zac Thomas yet, that kid was tough as nails. Will never forget watching him almost lead us to victory in Happy Valley, best games I've ever been to
Zac was a stud that night in Happy Valley. He was threading the needle all night long. That was definitely his best game when the big lights were on him
That was very impressive. I go with AE over him because he went into Michigan and pulled out the win or Richie Williams because he was ruled out for the game on crutches and came in during the second half to rescue us and deliver us our first title win.

With the Sun Belt having injury reports now I wonder what we would have listed Richie going into that game and if that would have dictated if we played him. It just might be smart to list all players as questionable so you can ride the fence and truly make game-time decisions lol
I’d guess that the only time a player will be listed as out is when there is really no doubt - like Kanye this season.

Injury reports are for gamblers, not for fans or opposing coaches
That is going to be the smart way to do it. They absolutely are and it is absolutely stupid for coaches to give an honest injury listing to opponents. I feel like coaches are still going to lie on these and list players with phantom injuries or list them as questionable when they know for sure one way or the other.

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