AP voter doubles down

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Re: AP voter doubles down

Post by AppStFan1 » Thu Sep 11, 2025 1:29 pm

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Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:48 am
I think there's a place for both computer rankings and human voters. Polls have their flaws, but I don't think one voter making a dumb oversight in week 2 completely invalidates the whole concept.

Also, AI still makes a lot of basic mistakes, computer rankings are only as good as the humans who design them, and any computer system you create, teams will figure out a way to game it. See basketball teams running up the score on cupcakes to boost their NET rating.
I don't think the concept is invalid but more this group of voters. I don't think we should replace it with AI but simply be selective with who is voting and make all ballots public. There are some good voters but there should not be any who are lazy or heavily biased and that is a problem with many AP Poll voters. It is the same thing when we were in FCS with so many voters as SIDs or local beat writers will be heavily slanted toward their schools. When you see a school that you think is nowhere near top 25 has 4-5 votes they either got 4-5 25th place votes or someone possibly voted them as high as 20-21 or had multiple voters who put them in.

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Re: AP voter doubles down

Post by APPdiesel » Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:22 pm

There’s no need to use AI, it’s just a spreadsheet. IE, the BCS model.
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Re: AP voter doubles down

Post by Bigdaddyg1 » Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:23 am

Every other sport rewards a division or conference champion except for college football. College basketball strengths of schedule vary greatly but conference champions get a shot. It’s utterly ridiculous to increase the playoff field to 24 or whatever crazy number they advocate because player attrition will make it impossible for teams without huge payrolls to ultimately compete. What is the chance a really strong App team has enough remaining depth at running back after 12/13/14 games?

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