So Miss discussion

[Bigdaddyg1]

Help me understand exactly how some of you big NIL proponents believe it would work at App. How much money would it take (theoretically) to get us to whatever plateau is expected here. I’m really not trying to be argumentative nor am I pointing the finger at anyone here. I just read that it’s going to take money to turn the program back around. Are we talking an extra million, 5 million, 10 million a year? Even with a pot of cash someone still has to convince several top athletes to skip going to half a dozen Big10, 8 different SEC, several ACC or Big12 schools. How deep is the top talent pool? Would the plan be to pay 10 studs and expect 75 to simply play better?

[APP93]

This is not a rant, an attempt to shame anyone or call anyone out so please I hope no one takes this personal. I realize that people have their own lives and stuff going on and disposable discretionary income is different for everyone.

The App ticket office sold 40 tickets for this game through the school. The majority of the folks there were parents and player family, so 40 fans. That’s disappointing for such a passionate fanbase. I realize that it’s not a close trip but it’s a place we rarely visit. The kids deserve better.

Is this post a joke?

[yosef69]

The sky is not falling. There are 9 games left.

A ton of teams look horrible. Notre Dame is 0-2. Clemson stinks. Florida is bad. South Carolina got destroyed. The ACC is a joke…etc.

I think we will be okay. Sure, we used to win games before we started but now each game is a 50/50 toss up. If we can get Swann healthy, the OL to block and 2 wide receivers back we will be okay. We move the ball at will, just have to finish. And for the most part, the defense looks better than it has the past couple years.

Get healthy! Go Apps!

One of the most needed byes in program history this week.

Let’s go beat “OFF”!

Aye yooooooo?

[yosef69]

Help me understand exactly how some of you big NIL proponents believe it would work at App. How much money would it take (theoretically) to get us to whatever plateau is expected here. I’m really not trying to be argumentative nor am I pointing the finger at anyone here. I just read that it’s going to take money to turn the program back around. Are we talking an extra million, 5 million, 10 million a year? Even with a pot of cash someone still has to convince several top athletes to skip going to half a dozen Big10, 8 different SEC, several ACC or Big12 schools. How deep is the top talent pool? Would the plan be to pay 10 studs and expect 75 to simply play better?

We just need enough to win the sun belt. What’s up with these bad faith arguments comparing us to these power leagues?

[Bigdaddyg1]

Help me understand exactly how some of you big NIL proponents believe it would work at App. How much money would it take (theoretically) to get us to whatever plateau is expected here. I’m really not trying to be argumentative nor am I pointing the finger at anyone here. I just read that it’s going to take money to turn the program back around. Are we talking an extra million, 5 million, 10 million a year? Even with a pot of cash someone still has to convince several top athletes to skip going to half a dozen Big10, 8 different SEC, several ACC or Big12 schools. How deep is the top talent pool? Would the plan be to pay 10 studs and expect 75 to simply play better?

We just need enough to win the sun belt. What’s up with these bad faith arguments comparing us to these power leagues?

Go back and read numerous complaints and comments. Hardly anyone speaks of simply wanting to win the Sunbelt. My question really isn’t intended to be a comparison but to ask how exactly spending a ton of extra cash for players will make things that much better. The portal will still exist so the high priced players have to come from somewhere. Personally I think we should be able to equip a roster like a normal G5 and yes compete for the conference.

[Stonewall]

Swann has to make better decisions for us to win against peer programs.

[AppSt94]

This is not a rant, an attempt to shame anyone or call anyone out so please I hope no one takes this personal. I realize that people have their own lives and stuff going on and disposable discretionary income is different for everyone.

The App ticket office sold 40 tickets for this game through the school. The majority of the folks there were parents and player family, so 40 fans. That’s disappointing for such a passionate fanbase. I realize that it’s not a close trip but it’s a place we rarely visit. The kids deserve better.

Is this post a joke?

If you find it funny then I guess it is.

[spacemonkey]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

[AppDub]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

The offense with the starters in moved well. Coach called a grest game. Swann has to make better decisions and some WRs need to catch the ball consistently.

[WASU 93]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

The offense with the starters in moved well. Coach called a grest game. Swann has to make better decisions and some WRs need to catch the ball consistently.

I'm only going to put one of the 3 picks on Swann. The first INT, the center rolled the ball back to Swann. That's on the center. When he threw the ball to Strohman, the defender had his back to the ball. The timing was off, the defender made a great play.

On the second, he led Dubinion towards the goal line. Fluke Play. Maybe Dubinion should have taken his route more upfield.

The third was definitely on Swann. The pass needed more air on it.

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

The offense with the starters in moved well. Coach called a grest game. Swann has to make better decisions and some WRs need to catch the ball consistently.

Especially Fowles. He could have just nubs at the end of his forearms and be as useful catching the ball with his pair of bricks.

Being more binary inside the 5 might be what Swann needs. When he’s standing there still as an oak and his head is just shifting back and forth bad things happen. We didn’t capitalize twice inside the 5 against Lindenwood either. Just run that thing or a simple play action.

[Saint3333]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

The offense with the starters in moved well. Coach called a grest game. Swann has to make better decisions and some WRs need to catch the ball consistently.

I'm only going to put one of the 3 picks on Swann. The first INT, the center rolled the ball back to Swann. That's on the center. When he threw the ball to Strohman, the defender had his back to the ball. The timing was off, the defender made a great play.

On the second, he led Dubinion towards the goal line. Fluke Play. Maybe Dubinion should have taken his route more upfield.

The third was definitely on Swann. The pass needed more air on it.

I saw a poor decision to not throw the ball away - panic.

Poor throw to the running back, QB fault.

Throw into triple coverage.


AJ physically can make really solid plays, but a medium amount of pressure he makes poor decisions and/or inaccurate throws.

We have an average oline (injuries magnify this) and thus a QB issue.

[Pikapp79]

The lack of memory and football knowledge in this thread is impressive.
1. That wasn’t the Southern Miss teams of the past last night. That was quite literally the Marshall team- coach, players, and all- that won the SBC and beat App last year. They are a good team.

2. First year head coaches almost always have a tough first year. When you have to rebuild a program, that’s what happens. Here’s some first year records from some coaches you might know:
Kirby Smart- UGA- 8-4
Nick Saban- Bama- 7-6 (also 8-4 his first year at LSU)
Brian Kelly- Notre Dame- 8-5 first two years
Jim Harbaugh- Stanford- 4-8
Scott Satterfield- App- 7-5

Satterfield struggled mightily at first, and many of yall called for his firing, but he was given some slack and returned App to excellence quickly.
I have no idea if DL is the right guy because you simply can’t make that judgement based on 3 games. Last night sucked, but to say App has completely lost its way, is wandering the wilderness, and will never compete again at the D1 level… well that’s just plain stupid.

All the examples have zero to do with today’s environment.

Well, I’m not going to go find examples from the last 5 years, even though it would be easy, because you’re still going to blame every negative thing on NIL and transfers because that’s all you come here to do, seemingly.

You are right for the most part. The two things you mentioned have turned the college game upside down. Especially for programs who are ripe to have every decent player plucked from their roster every year. I chuckle when you talk about rebuilding a program. It’s now an annual process.

I still follow but no longer the rabid fan I once was and stopped contributing a cent to pro sports. I’m not the only one and it will cause issues from revenue to attendance. Sorry for venting on this site. I guess it’s just for fairy tale fans.

[AppSt94]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

The offense with the starters in moved well. Coach called a grest game. Swann has to make better decisions and some WRs need to catch the ball consistently.

I'm only going to put one of the 3 picks on Swann. The first INT, the center rolled the ball back to Swann. That's on the center. When he threw the ball to Strohman, the defender had his back to the ball. The timing was off, the defender made a great play.

On the second, he led Dubinion towards the goal line. Fluke Play. Maybe Dubinion should have taken his route more upfield.

The third was definitely on Swann. The pass needed more air on it.

I will respectfully take a different position on the first pick. In my opinion it was a timing route that was blown up by the snap. Swann should have “eaten the play call” and thrown it out of the back of the endzone and lived to fight another play. Haven’t watched the replay of the third one yet but from the stands, I would have to agree that it looked forced. He did take a shot at release so maybe that affected the throw.

[AppDub]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

The offense with the starters in moved well. Coach called a grest game. Swann has to make better decisions and some WRs need to catch the ball consistently.

I'm only going to put one of the 3 picks on Swann. The first INT, the center rolled the ball back to Swann. That's on the center. When he threw the ball to Strohman, the defender had his back to the ball. The timing was off, the defender made a great play.

On the second, he led Dubinion towards the goal line. Fluke Play. Maybe Dubinion should have taken his route more upfield.

The third was definitely on Swann. The pass needed more air on it.

I see it differently. On the ball that rolled to him, he chose to blindly throw that ball after not having time for a good read. Bad decision. Waste the throw. On the second one, a "decent" throw allows Dubinion to walk into the end zone. It didnt have to be a great throw. Dubinion showed massive effort to even make it close to a catch. Third one wasn't debatable.

[bcoach]

Some of yall need to realize refusing to donate to NIL is like doing math by hand when you could do it in excel.

It’s not going away. Adapt or die

Then again if you can do it by hand you don't have to buy a computer.

[AppSt94]

Some of yall need to realize refusing to donate to NIL is like doing math by hand when you could do it in excel.

It’s not going away. Adapt or die

The problem is that in house NIL is benefiting the few while areas of the athletic budget are being cut that benefit the many.

[Black Saturday]

My two cents....The offense looked tired in the first half, mainly because they were on the field the whole half. I think the coach could have used a few timeouts in the first half to rest a tired offensive line. Second, I think our coach is good and will get it done. Third, Said coach did not do a lot of miss direction and no quarterback designed runs. That being said we moved the ball a lot so maybe they were not needed. I think we will do fine the rest of the season other than ODU. They look legit. I think they have a chance for the CFP spot. The best news....we should be Conway by 40...Georgia Southern by 30...Georgia State by 10 and JMU by 3...Marshall by 20...Arkansas St by 15. I think we go 6-2 in the SBC. Boise and Oregon St??? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess we lose to Boise and beat Oregon St. Mainly because of home vs away. I think we are equal to both Boise and Oregon St.

The offense with the starters in moved well. Coach called a grest game. Swann has to make better decisions and some WRs need to catch the ball consistently.

I'm only going to put one of the 3 picks on Swann. The first INT, the center rolled the ball back to Swann. That's on the center. When he threw the ball to Strohman, the defender had his back to the ball. The timing was off, the defender made a great play.

On the second, he led Dubinion towards the goal line. Fluke Play. Maybe Dubinion should have taken his route more upfield.

The third was definitely on Swann. The pass needed more air on it.

I will respectfully take a different position on the first pick. In my opinion it was a timing route that was blown up by the snap. Swann should have “eaten the play call” and thrown it out of the back of the endzone and lived to fight another play. Haven’t watched the replay of the third one yet but from the stands, I would have to agree that it looked forced. He did take a shot at release so maybe that affected the throw.

When we are running down the field with ease, keep running it instead of passing inside the 5 yard line.

[Saint3333]

Heavy passing in the redzone could be some NFL gameplan creeping in.

[BambooRdApp]

Personally, I see all INTs on the QB. On 1 and 3, the throws should have never been made. Kid was just tryin to ball. However , you have to live for another day.

On the 2nd, 7 could walk into Endzone. Needs to be a better throw so he can..and crazy things like that interception do not happen.... QB was just trying to lead the guy and it was a little too much lead
I can say that I am not sure I have ever seen a quirky int like that lead to a TD for other team.