Arkansas HC Search

[Black Saturday]

No mention of DL on this short list, fwiw

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 8b3c&ei=33

[BUTCH1991]

Too soon for D Lo

[AppSt94]

A bit surprised that Drink isn’t on this list.

[t4pizza]

A bit surprised that Drink isn’t on this list.

Arkansas is not the type of program that can lure a peer SEC head coach to their school. I certainly don' think they have that sway.

[AppSt94]

A bit surprised that Drink isn’t on this list.

Arkansas is not the type of program that can lure a peer SEC head coach to their school. I certainly don' think they have that sway.

Maybe not but he is from Arkansas which might be an appealing draw for him.

[Stonewall]

The money would have to be significantly more. And Missouri would bid to keep him.

[Black Saturday]

OT, but Missouri has a hell of a running back, at least he was against SC

[EastHallApp]

A bit surprised that Drink isn’t on this list.

Arkansas is not the type of program that can lure a peer SEC head coach to their school. I certainly don' think they have that sway.

Maybe not but he is from Arkansas which might be an appealing draw for him.

Yeah, plus whether or not a coach is realistic often doesn't stop a school from at least making the attempt.

[appfanjj]

OT, but Missouri has a hell of a running back, at least he was against SC

No big deal. We have a hell of a running back from Arkansas.

[311neers]

Might be some trouble in Raleigh. I've got some NC State grads telling me that AD/New Chancellor met with Doeren after their L to VT.
Apparently they've already got a list going of Coaches they will call at years end.

[BambooRdApp]

Will need some deep pockets for the buy-out.
I think Florida would have terminated Billy. However, I do not believe the buy-out money is free flowing. As such, it may take some time for some of these schools given how much they (donors) are paying in NIL.

[Bootsy]

Will need some deep pockets for the buy-out.
I think Florida would have terminated Billy. However, I do not believe the buy-out money is free flowing. As such, it may take some time for some of these schools given how much they (donors) are paying in NIL.

I just don’t see how NCSU would be able to pony up the cash to get rid of DD. I think his buyout is ~$17MM, so they may just have to grin and bear it.

[t4pizza]

Will need some deep pockets for the buy-out.
I think Florida would have terminated Billy. However, I do not believe the buy-out money is free flowing. As such, it may take some time for some of these schools given how much they (donors) are paying in NIL.

I do wonder if we are not starting to see the beginnings of some breakage in the current system. Alums have been footing so much of the college football bill for so long, and it just keeps getting more and more. It was one thing when schools just asked for money for scholarships and facilities, and the occasional buyout. Now schools keep asking for that as well as annual top dollar for NIL, I mean pay for play, and maybe it is getting too much. To see a school like UF, with a rich history in college football and plenty of money from SEC broadcasting, apparently struggling to raise the 21.7 million to fire Billy Napier (20-22) their most unsuccessful football coach in recent memory is really telling. Even Ron Zook (23-14) had a better record at UF and they ran him out of town, not to mention Muschamp (28-21), McElwain (22-12), and Mullen (34-15). The alums paid to send them all packing but now after NIL and everything else money seems to be getting tight and a coach that NOBODY wants is still no the sidelines.

[ASUFan4863]

I’m hearing of a possible negotiated buyout and retirement.

[AppStFan1]

No mention of DL on this short list, fwiw

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 8b3c&ei=33

He is in first-year and we are 2-2 so I would not expect him to be.

[AppStFan1]

Will need some deep pockets for the buy-out.
I think Florida would have terminated Billy. However, I do not believe the buy-out money is free flowing. As such, it may take some time for some of these schools given how much they (donors) are paying in NIL.

No question that is why he is still there. I also think schools are going to have to set winning standards in deals to make losing a cause that voids the buyout. I just don't think a coach who is winning 30-40% of games should get paid 20M to go away.

[t4pizza]

Will need some deep pockets for the buy-out.
I think Florida would have terminated Billy. However, I do not believe the buy-out money is free flowing. As such, it may take some time for some of these schools given how much they (donors) are paying in NIL.

No question that is why he is still there. I also think schools are going to have to set winning standards in deals to make losing a cause that voids the buyout. I just don't think a coach who is winning 30-40% of games should get paid 20M to go away.

I have wondered why having a losing record should not be considered "cause" for some time. I get that it isn't written in the contract that way and the agents would push back, but there are very limited DI head coaching jobs and I think the school have a lot more power to insist on conditions then most realize. Schools should start insisting on an acceptable winning record and put it in the contract. I am not saying anything crazy like .800 or anything but there is no way any coach should be .500 or under at UF after 3 full years. At App, I would say maintain at least .700 after 3 years and forward, anything less should be for cause.

[kornegaylw]

Will need some deep pockets for the buy-out.
I think Florida would have terminated Billy. However, I do not believe the buy-out money is free flowing. As such, it may take some time for some of these schools given how much they (donors) are paying in NIL.

No question that is why he is still there. I also think schools are going to have to set winning standards in deals to make losing a cause that voids the buyout. I just don't think a coach who is winning 30-40% of games should get paid 20M to go away.

I have wondered why having a losing record should not be considered "cause" for some time. I get that it isn't written in the contract that way and the agents would push back, but there are very limited DI head coaching jobs and I think the school have a lot more power to insist on conditions then most realize. Schools should start insisting on an acceptable winning record and put it in the contract. I am not saying anything crazy like .800 or anything but there is no way any coach should be .500 or under at UF after 3 full years. At App, I would say maintain at least .700 after 3 years and forward, anything less should be for cause.

This may be something that happens...Given the new paradigm in CFB now how valuable are "coaches" anymore. What was valuable previously was someone who could recruit, develop and sustain success. Now the value seems to like in the ablity to leverage current relationships with players and get them to your school. There is no time or space for development and retention. That said at schools not in the Big10/SEC after 3 years at an institution how do you leverage your connections outside of your school and therefore sustain success and how do you actually guage it?

The current paradigm of CFB is not sustainable and its not b/c of the money...The quality of play in the SB/CUSA/American is diminishing which means the recruitment pool for the ACC/Big12 is diminishing and thusly the recruitment pool for the Big10/SEC. If players can't develop then how does the sport improve?...Not all kids come out as 5 stars ready to roll. Just about all of them need the system that is CFB to learn, grow and develop into their best possible form....I believe we'll live in this era of CFB for a while until a "sustainablity" movement grows up. Players will still get paid and be able to transfer but a structure of committment will be in place allowing each teir of CFB to build and sustain success.

[BambooRdApp]

I’m hearing of a possible negotiated buyout and retirement.

I do think Arkansas is different. I think pittman takes less as allegiance to university.

Billy and Doeren- no history other than coaching there

[Cro-Magnon App]

These “powers-that-be” in the universities (whether it be ADs, college presidents, trustees, etc.) that offer these contracts with big buyouts ought to be held accountable more than they are. The system is out of whack. Some are going to more merit-based contracts which I think is the way to go. Pay for success. Like some of these contracts for the pro players.