Could ACC be snubbed and SBC get in CFP?

[appst89]

Miami says hello

They won’t be the ACC champ. It says 5 highest rated conference champs.

They aren’t going to put two G5 schools in. They hasn’t been projected by anyone anywhere

If Duke wins, it is possible to probable.

I misunderstood. Doesn’t it all come down to them ranking jmu?

It does. I actually think the committee would do everything they could to put Duke ahead of JMU in the final rankings.

[BambooRdApp]

Agree that Miami should get a bid if an ACC is required to get a bid. UVA had a relatively easy nonconference schedule. Miami played ND and Florida (even if a down year fur Florida)

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

[AppStFan1]

Agree that Miami should get a bid if an ACC is required to get a bid. UVA had a relatively easy nonconference schedule. Miami played ND and Florida (even if a down year fur Florida)

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

[Seattleapp]

Agree that Miami should get a bid if an ACC is required to get a bid. UVA had a relatively easy nonconference schedule. Miami played ND and Florida (even if a down year fur Florida)

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

To tell a school like Virginia who goes 11-2 and wins the acc and their only loss was when their quarterback was knocked out of the game, sorry we like this other school better, even though they didn’t win the conference and faltered along the way seems flawed

[BambooRdApp]

Agree that Miami should get a bid if an ACC is required to get a bid. UVA had a relatively easy nonconference schedule. Miami played ND and Florida (even if a down year fur Florida)

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

[AppStFan1]

Agree that Miami should get a bid if an ACC is required to get a bid. UVA had a relatively easy nonconference schedule. Miami played ND and Florida (even if a down year fur Florida)

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

I understand and agree but I’m trying to be realistic based on rules. Miami could still get in as an at-large but that will be a tough pick with several really good 10-2 teams to choose from. If Duke wins, could the ACC get an at-large and we see JMU and Tulane/UNT winner get in? That would be crazy.

[BambooRdApp]

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

I understand and agree but I’m trying to be realistic based on rules. Miami could still get in as an at-large but that will be a tough pick with several really good 10-2 teams to choose from. If Duke wins, could the ACC get an at-large and we see JMU and Tulane/UNT winner get in? That would be crazy.

They would rewrite the rules after 2025 if that were to happen

[311neers]

Agree that Miami should get a bid if an ACC is required to get a bid. UVA had a relatively easy nonconference schedule. Miami played ND and Florida (even if a down year fur Florida)

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

Just take the top 12 teams in the ranking.
This isn’t that difficult. Conference championships are not equal, never have been.

Duke UVA in Charlotte might draw about 20,000 people.

[spacemonkey]

Agree that Miami should get a bid if an ACC is required to get a bid. UVA had a relatively easy nonconference schedule. Miami played ND and Florida (even if a down year fur Florida)

So winning the conference should take a backseat to Miami beating notre dame in September?

The point of the thread is that Miami is not in the conference championship game. They cannot be the conference champion. Miami will make the CFP but it opens the door for the "5 other conference champions" rule to allow two g5 teams to be ranked ahead of the ACC conference champion. I think the ACC champion will leap frog JMU in the final rankings, especially if it is Virginia.

[AppStFan1]

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

I understand and agree but I’m trying to be realistic based on rules. Miami could still get in as an at-large but that will be a tough pick with several really good 10-2 teams to choose from. If Duke wins, could the ACC get an at-large and we see JMU and Tulane/UNT winner get in? That would be crazy.

They would rewrite the rules after 2025 if that were to happen

That is my thought as well. If the ACC was not so bad I would not have even posted this thread. Usually I would call this click bait but with how their season has gone it could happen that we have 2 G6 and I do think that JMU would be best option for final auto-bid.

Here is a wild scenario. What if Troy, Boise State, and Duke all win? One 5 loss team and two 4-loss teams. Who gets the spot of that group?

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

No league is required to get a bid. 5 highest ranked conference champs get auto-bid. Miami would not be the champ. If Duke wins it would open the door for this to happen if JMU is ranked.

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

Just take the top 12 teams in the ranking.
This isn’t that difficult. Conference championships are not equal, never have been.

Duke UVA in Charlotte might draw about 20,000 people.

True, but all conference champs make the NCAA tournament for basketball

[rbarthle17]

Whoever the acc champion is will get a token ranking if needed so that this can be avoided. I'm not sure a scenario exists where JMU gets in.

[rbarthle17]

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

I understand and agree but I’m trying to be realistic based on rules. Miami could still get in as an at-large but that will be a tough pick with several really good 10-2 teams to choose from. If Duke wins, could the ACC get an at-large and we see JMU and Tulane/UNT winner get in? That would be crazy.

They would rewrite the rules after 2025 if that were to happen

That is my thought as well. If the ACC was not so bad I would not have even posted this thread. Usually I would call this click bait but with how their season has gone it could happen that we have 2 G6 and I do think that JMU would be best option for final auto-bid.

Here is a wild scenario. What if Troy, Boise State, and Duke all win? One 5 loss team and two 4-loss teams. Who gets the spot of that group?

They will give Duke a token ranking at 25 and be done with it.

[CornCobPipes]

Never kid yourself with these notions. The bigger concern is the favoritism towards the American Conference and the MWC ( which last year was more obviously acceptable with the Boise State selection). Hypothetically if TwoLane were to play head to head with JMaddy......no way I would place my bet on TwoLane.

[Seattleapp]

Whoever the acc champion is will get a token ranking if needed so that this can be avoided. I'm not sure a scenario exists where JMU gets in.

Isnt uva already ranked 16?

[EastHallApp]

I realize that. I just believe Miami should get the nod and I am not a Miami fan. Teams do not play everyone in conference and you only have 8 or 9 conference games. I think the rule around winning the ACC championship or any conference championship is a little overrated if one team has an easier conference schedule than another team. Not saying this did happen or not. To me, you have a larger body of work in basketball with the number of games played. I do not make the rules. As such, Miami could be on the outside looking in. However, I personally believe they should be the representative as I believe they are better than both Virginia and Duke.

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

Just take the top 12 teams in the ranking.
This isn’t that difficult. Conference championships are not equal, never have been.

Duke UVA in Charlotte might draw about 20,000 people.

True, but all conference champs make the NCAA tournament for basketball

Yeah, and if you're not going to give conference champions an auto bid, then there's very little reason to keep playing conference championship games.

But the conferences won't do away with those, because they're too valuable for TV, which of course is the only thing that matters in college athletics anymore.

[BambooRdApp]

Miami would have to get in as an at-large. They aren’t evening playing in the title game. I’m posing the question based on the CFP rules and not what we think should happen if Duke were to win. Based on rules Miami getting in would not affect taking 5 highest rated conference champs.

I realize the rules. Just saying what my personal opinion is based upon the OOC and what I have viewed on the TV screen in conference games. Yes, Va. gets in if they win. Those are the rules. It does not mean that I think Va is the better team than Miami.
I just do not believe they are.
If Dook wins, I believe Miami should get in for ACC. However, the rules are not written to allow this. It will then follow however the rules dictate.

Just take the top 12 teams in the ranking.
This isn’t that difficult. Conference championships are not equal, never have been.

Duke UVA in Charlotte might draw about 20,000 people.

True, but all conference champs make the NCAA tournament for basketball

Yeah, and if you're not going to give conference champions an auto bid, then there's very little reason to keep playing conference championship games.

But the conferences won't do away with those, because they're too valuable for TV, which of course is the only thing that matters in college athletics anymore.

If they keep expanding the playoffs, that may be catalyst to not have them.

[rbarthle17]

Whoever the acc champion is will get a token ranking if needed so that this can be avoided. I'm not sure a scenario exists where JMU gets in.

Isnt uva already ranked 16?

This is if Duke wins.

[canes_mj]

Way too many teams in the ACC; 2nd year in a row where they ended up with a log jam mess at the end because with so many teams, all the top teams aren't going to play, leading to these kinds of situations. A 5 way tie for 2nd, seriously?

Really interesting scenario about the ACC not getting a team in; but no way this happens that they take 2 G5. If UVa wins, easy solution, they'll go. If Duke wins, I'm wondering (and my gut tells me yes), is the committee going to take a non-conf champ Miami as an at large and not take Duke?