Birmingham Bowl

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by BambooRdApp » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:13 pm

We need to hold onto what sone of what we got
Alexander impressed me today on a few of the runs. Hopefully 14 comes back healthy. We will need portal guys as typically true freshman do not contribute immediately at an all conference level. We need Jimmy and Joe's that can be all conference type players in 26.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by Pikapp79 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:14 pm

To except this game with our roster should be a fireable offense.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by ArmantiWaterSafety » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:15 pm

Honestly, a better showing than I expected.

Considering we were an entirely one-dimensional team with our QB situation, there is not a coach in the country who could have done any more with what we had. The reason it was even remotely a game is because our defense came to play and Wilson is a flashy runner. We couldn't throw a pass over 5 yards and when we did it was to the other team, it's not very hard to defend that.

We now know if we don't get a QB in the offseason, we're in for another long year.

Go App and thanks for an extra game to watch.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:15 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:11 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:55 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:53 pm
Shawn Clark (God rest his soul) would have produced a better result than DL.
Considering you’ve said pretty much the same about Moore, Satt, and Drink over the years, it’s just the same sound from a one-note piano.
Hope you’re right and DL turns this ship around next season. This season’s results have been contributed to not having the horses to get the job done, by some. DL has the off season to get more of his players in. Therefore, we should definitely see some improvement next season. Stand by.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by BambooRdApp » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:16 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:11 pm
ah59396 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:09 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:02 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:58 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:53 pm
Shawn Clark (God rest his soul) would have produced a better result than DL.
THIS year. Shawn Clark wouldn’t have had to rebuild, and App would’ve won maybe 2-3 more games. App admin rolled the dice that a new coach, after an adjustment period, could make App better.
Think of it this way, if you were a Stink fan, would you be happy with the season that Georgia Southern had this year? Because that’s probably what App would’ve done as well.

Let’s revisit this same time next year.
I disagree. Although we may have kept Joey Dimes. I do not believe we pick up some of the transfers...and our D with Sloan would have been even worse than what we have IMHO
We would have been dire.

Our QB room would have been:

Wiles, Gillon, and Wilson. Probably Estep who is at Pembroke now and couldn’t become the starter there.
That’s just a small part of how putrid our talent evaluation had become. This was not an overnight turn. Brighter days ahead.
I also think some can be attributed to NIL. Hopefully, this coaching staff is given a higher budget.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by AppOrange » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:16 pm

This is the most proud I’ve been since the JMU hail marry. Undermanned, untested, hung tough. This was App football, the stink should feel like shit.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by AppSt91 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:17 pm

Program is officially in the toilet

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by boonetodd » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:17 pm

Is 8 losses one of the most ever in a season?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by AppStFan1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:18 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:11 pm
ah59396 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:09 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:02 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:58 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:53 pm
Shawn Clark (God rest his soul) would have produced a better result than DL.
THIS year. Shawn Clark wouldn’t have had to rebuild, and App would’ve won maybe 2-3 more games. App admin rolled the dice that a new coach, after an adjustment period, could make App better.
Think of it this way, if you were a Stink fan, would you be happy with the season that Georgia Southern had this year? Because that’s probably what App would’ve done as well.

Let’s revisit this same time next year.
I disagree. Although we may have kept Joey Dimes. I do not believe we pick up some of the transfers...and our D with Sloan would have been even worse than what we have IMHO
We would have been dire.

Our QB room would have been:

Wiles, Gillon, and Wilson. Probably Estep who is at Pembroke now and couldn’t become the starter there.
That’s just a small part of how putrid our talent evaluation had become. This was not an overnight turn. Brighter days ahead.
Exactly. I said when we made a change this would be at least 2-3 years, maybe 4. I don't know for sure on staff yet but they need some time. As long as Loggains gets us to earn a bowl game I would think he should be safe after 2026. I do expect to see improvement but if he is able to win 9 or more next year I would be impressed.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by AppStFan1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:19 pm

boonetodd wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:17 pm
Is 8 losses one of the most ever in a season?
We had 9 losses in 1977. I'm not sure if we had a year with more than 9.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by WataugaMan » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:20 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:15 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:11 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:55 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:53 pm
Shawn Clark (God rest his soul) would have produced a better result than DL.
Considering you’ve said pretty much the same about Moore, Satt, and Drink over the years, it’s just the same sound from a one-note piano.
Hope you’re right and DL turns this ship around next season. This season’s results have been contributed to not having the horses to get the job done, by some. DL has the off season to get more of his players in. Therefore, we should definitely see some improvement next season. Stand by.
Nothing but respect from one old dog to another. I do hope I’m right, but it could all stink like, well, the stink.
The issue I’ve had all year is seeing the same mistakes over and over with no improvement. It would be easy to blame the players but after awhile it stops at the top.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by fjblair » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:20 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:11 pm
ah59396 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:09 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:02 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:58 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:53 pm
Shawn Clark (God rest his soul) would have produced a better result than DL.
THIS year. Shawn Clark wouldn’t have had to rebuild, and App would’ve won maybe 2-3 more games. App admin rolled the dice that a new coach, after an adjustment period, could make App better.
Think of it this way, if you were a Stink fan, would you be happy with the season that Georgia Southern had this year? Because that’s probably what App would’ve done as well.

Let’s revisit this same time next year.
I disagree. Although we may have kept Joey Dimes. I do not believe we pick up some of the transfers...and our D with Sloan would have been even worse than what we have IMHO
We would have been dire.

Our QB room would have been:

Wiles, Gillon, and Wilson. Probably Estep who is at Pembroke now and couldn’t become the starter there.
That’s just a small part of how putrid our talent evaluation had become. This was not an overnight turn. Brighter days ahead.
I hope so, it's would be difficult to get any worse. I cannot believe how far this program has fallen in the last five years. Despite NIL/portal and the implosion of college football along with the struggles of the new staff this year, on paper the future does seem brighter.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by WASU 93 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:21 pm

Wilson struggled with his passing, but you have to wonder if he had reps with the 1’s for the last few weeks, could a winning game plan have been put together.
Good effort by the players who stayed.
Glad DLo got another game to practice being a head coach. Still looking for that moment where he nails time management or out coaches the other sideline.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:22 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:18 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:11 pm
ah59396 wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:09 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:02 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:58 pm


THIS year. Shawn Clark wouldn’t have had to rebuild, and App would’ve won maybe 2-3 more games. App admin rolled the dice that a new coach, after an adjustment period, could make App better.
Think of it this way, if you were a Stink fan, would you be happy with the season that Georgia Southern had this year? Because that’s probably what App would’ve done as well.

Let’s revisit this same time next year.
I disagree. Although we may have kept Joey Dimes. I do not believe we pick up some of the transfers...and our D with Sloan would have been even worse than what we have IMHO
We would have been dire.

Our QB room would have been:

Wiles, Gillon, and Wilson. Probably Estep who is at Pembroke now and couldn’t become the starter there.
That’s just a small part of how putrid our talent evaluation had become. This was not an overnight turn. Brighter days ahead.
Exactly. I said when we made a change this would be at least 2-3 years, maybe 4. I don't know for sure on staff yet but they need some time. As long as Loggains gets us to earn a bowl game I would think he should be safe after 2026. I do expect to see improvement but if he is able to win 9 or more next year I would be impressed.
Eight wins, with one of those being over the stink, and a bowl game (hopefully a win), will be a step in the right direction.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:23 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:20 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:15 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:11 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:55 pm
WataugaMan wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:53 pm
Shawn Clark (God rest his soul) would have produced a better result than DL.
Considering you’ve said pretty much the same about Moore, Satt, and Drink over the years, it’s just the same sound from a one-note piano.
Hope you’re right and DL turns this ship around next season. This season’s results have been contributed to not having the horses to get the job done, by some. DL has the off season to get more of his players in. Therefore, we should definitely see some improvement next season. Stand by.
Nothing but respect from one old dog to another. I do hope I’m right, but it could all stink like, well, the stink.
The issue I’ve had all year is seeing the same mistakes over and over with no improvement. It would be easy to blame the players but after awhile it stops at the top.
I understand that frustration.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by Stonewall » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:24 pm

This is his first game since the Shrine Bowl. Two years ago.He has obvious athletic ability. Had he been practicing and playing QB this season , of course he would have played much better today. Another negative on this staff.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by Apptiger » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:27 pm

It ended about like I thought it would but I didn't think we would get here like this.
Line play on both sides of the ball was better. Run game was better. We could have won this game but the core of what needed to change did not.

Everything else was the same, red zone turnovers, penalties at crucial times and bad third down defense.

A tip of the cap for the guys that showed up and played hard but the lack of progress this year has me very concerned about the future. I understand we had a good recruiting year but it usually takes 2-3 years for that to have an impact. IF they stay and develop.

Very concerned that the APP State we have loved to watch the last 25-30 years may be gone for the foreseeable future. I am also starting to doubt this coaching staff can turn things around. Kids played hard today, proud of them.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by ugmw177 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:27 pm

difficult to watch but no unexpected. Losing to the &$^%^ Gumroots twice this year is what really stings.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by Stonewall » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:28 pm

And another thing , we go from a high of the recruiting class to the low of a nationally televised embarrassment loss to a school that hates us.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Post by ah59396 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:29 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Mon Dec 29, 2025 5:28 pm
And another thing , we go from a high of the recruiting class to the low of a nationally televised embarrassment loss to a school that hates us.
No one was watching this game besides app/Georgia southern fans, and degenerate gamblers. We will be fine.
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