UNC-CH dropping some academic programs

[BallantyneApp]

Not the first and won't be the last (and not just UNC-CH)... The academic world has started going through an 'education' itself. Learning that meeting the needs of its markets is actually kind of important...

Dropping programs that don't produce an ROI to the buyer and are only indoctrinating the youth in a certain direction.

Good riddance.

There is an ROI on learning that giant corporations don’t value and shouldn’t be the ultimate arbiter of what our public universities offer. I really don’t need more mbas and accountants pushing for more planned obsolescence and microtransactions

[Stonewall]

Elizabeth City State

[Saint3333]

Not the first and won't be the last (and not just UNC-CH)... The academic world has started going through an 'education' itself. Learning that meeting the needs of its markets is actually kind of important...

Dropping programs that don't produce an ROI to the buyer and are only indoctrinating the youth in a certain direction.

Good riddance.

There is an ROI on learning that giant corporations don’t value and shouldn’t be the ultimate arbiter of what our public universities offer. I really don’t need more mbas and accountants pushing for more planned obsolescence and microtransactions

That's great until the check comes to pay for the degree.

Maybe we need to push more of the youth to trade jobs instead of the ends of the spectrum, finance vs. anthropology

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Elizabeth City State

Does that corner or the state and and HBCU deserve to exist? I would say yes. That answer may change in a decade but for now no to that cut. They have been growing for the last decade. That may or may not last but for now, let them be who and what they are.

[JTApps1]

Do we need UNCA? I say close it down. Those students can find similar experiences at WCU and App.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Do we need UNCA? I say close it down. Those students can find similar experiences at WCU and App.

I am not sure if going to a campus 10X bigger is a similar experience in the case of heading to App. Some people want a small college experience. And in a state of our size that should be doable. And not everyone wants to be in the middle of nowhere that is WCU. If anything maybe shut down WCU and move the campus and programs to UNCA after some campus expansion. Long term that might be more valuable. Long term as in many decades from now.

[biggie]

Weird to have a smaller school in Asheville in a bigger town and seemingly with bigger town issues recently. Given some homeless, drugs, and crime stories lately (and based on my visit staying near downtown in March). Boone seems to avoid a lot of that for some reason.

[JTApps1]

Do we need UNCA? I say close it down. Those students can find similar experiences at WCU and App.

I am not sure if going to a campus 10X bigger is a similar experience in the case of heading to App. Some people want a small college experience. And in a state of our size that should be doable. And not everyone wants to be in the middle of nowhere that is WCU. If anything maybe shut down WCU and move the campus and programs to UNCA after some campus expansion. Long term that might be more valuable. Long term as in many decades from now.

There isn't much room to expand UNCA and it doesn't make sense to shut down WCU with the amount of on-campus infrastructure there compared to UNCA. Students would have the option of Mars Hill or Less McRae if they wanted a small college in the mountains instead of a medium to large campus.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Do we need UNCA? I say close it down. Those students can find similar experiences at WCU and App.

I am not sure if going to a campus 10X bigger is a similar experience in the case of heading to App. Some people want a small college experience. And in a state of our size that should be doable. And not everyone wants to be in the middle of nowhere that is WCU. If anything maybe shut down WCU and move the campus and programs to UNCA after some campus expansion. Long term that might be more valuable. Long term as in many decades from now.

There isn't much room to expand UNCA and it doesn't make sense to shut down WCU with the amount of on-campus infrastructure there compared to UNCA. Students would have the option of Mars Hill or Less McRae if they wanted a small college in the mountains instead of a medium to large campus.

I know moving WCU is not realistic, anytime soon, but long term I think UNCA may have more appeal but that is decades away at best. And by that point the area around WCU may start growing.

One difference between UNCA and Mars Hill and Lees McRae is that the first is public and the others are private. That changes a lot of things for a lot of perspective students.

[Stonewall]

I’m not talking about shutting down ECSU or UNCA , I am suggesting that an administrative and operational merger should be considered as a way to contain costs. Again , there may be other examples of similar opportunities, these are two examples.

[Cro-Magnon App]

How about properly managing tuition and other income? Which obviously, Limestone University did not do and there are a couple of other smaller universities in SC in danger of going out the same way.

[ASU07]

I think shutting down WCU or UNCA is a horrible idea for western NC. The western part of the state has historically gotten shafted when it comes to higher education. Providing fewer opportunities is not the answer in my opinion.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I’m not talking about shutting down ECSU or UNCA , I am suggesting that an administrative and operational merger should be considered as a way to contain costs. Again , there may be other examples of similar opportunities, these are two examples.

Scale can save money and it can also add a layer. I wonder if the state of Georgia is saving money with GaSo over Armstrong. That has been a few years now so should see at least some short term answers. I am not against it if it keeps a campus open.

[mike87]

I'd shut down UNC-CH. Got NC State right next door or the "special" ones could go to Duke. That's solve a whole host of problems.

[MrCraig]

I know everyone has their pet political takes, but the actual cause of a lot of schools closing or downsizing is simply fewer students enrolling. American birth rate cratered in 2007 and never bounced back. There are far fewer kids for colleges to pull from. It's gonna get ugly for places that haven't been planning for this.

[biggie]

I know everyone has their pet political takes, but the actual cause of a lot of schools closing or downsizing is simply fewer students enrolling. American birth rate cratered in 2007 and never bounced back. There are far fewer kids for colleges to pull from. It's gonna get ugly for places that haven't been planning for this.

Wonder how much they increase tuition to try to cover the less students.

At the same time there are more applying than get in at every college that I know of currently. Way more competitive to get in than it was 30 years ago.

[MrCraig]

I know everyone has their pet political takes, but the actual cause of a lot of schools closing or downsizing is simply fewer students enrolling. American birth rate cratered in 2007 and never bounced back. There are far fewer kids for colleges to pull from. It's gonna get ugly for places that haven't been planning for this.

Wonder how much they increase tuition to try to cover the less students.

At the same time there are more applying than get in at every college that I know of currently. Way more competitive to get in than it was 30 years ago.

It WAS way more competitive, but it's about to get a lot easier to get into college starting this fall.

[biggie]

I know everyone has their pet political takes, but the actual cause of a lot of schools closing or downsizing is simply fewer students enrolling. American birth rate cratered in 2007 and never bounced back. There are far fewer kids for colleges to pull from. It's gonna get ugly for places that haven't been planning for this.

Wonder how much they increase tuition to try to cover the less students.

At the same time there are more applying than get in at every college that I know of currently. Way more competitive to get in than it was 30 years ago.

It WAS way more competitive, but it's about to get a lot easier to get into college starting this fall.

Apparently not this upcoming one. We'll see if anything happens next year. I have another one in 3 years, but hope he does community college for 2 years before transferring to 4 year.


"UNC-Chapel Hill received a record 14,931 Early Action applications from North Carolina residents for the Class of 2030 (fall 2026 enrollment). The university has not yet published its final, total application numbers (including regular decision and out-of-state pools) for this cohort.
Early Action Stats (Class of 2030)
In-state EA applications: 14,931
In-state EA admissions: 5,903
In-state EA acceptance rate: 39.5%

Previous Year Context (Class of 2029)
Total applicants: 84,317 total applicants (first-year and transfer combined)
Enrolled students: 6,191 new students (5,094 first-years and 1,097 transfers)"

[MrCraig]

I know everyone has their pet political takes, but the actual cause of a lot of schools closing or downsizing is simply fewer students enrolling. American birth rate cratered in 2007 and never bounced back. There are far fewer kids for colleges to pull from. It's gonna get ugly for places that haven't been planning for this.

Wonder how much they increase tuition to try to cover the less students.

At the same time there are more applying than get in at every college that I know of currently. Way more competitive to get in than it was 30 years ago.

It WAS way more competitive, but it's about to get a lot easier to get into college starting this fall.

Apparently not this upcoming one. We'll see if anything happens next year. I have another one in 3 years, but hope he does community college for 2 years before transferring to 4 year.


"UNC-Chapel Hill received a record 14,931 Early Action applications from North Carolina residents for the Class of 2030 (fall 2026 enrollment). The university has not yet published its final, total application numbers (including regular decision and out-of-state pools) for this cohort.
Early Action Stats (Class of 2030)
In-state EA applications: 14,931
In-state EA admissions: 5,903
In-state EA acceptance rate: 39.5%

Previous Year Context (Class of 2029)
Total applicants: 84,317 total applicants (first-year and transfer combined)
Enrolled students: 6,191 new students (5,094 first-years and 1,097 transfers)"

Sorry, I meant next fall's class. The kids that will be seniors this year are the first class that's included in the birth bust. Of course, it also will vary based on geography, etc. The soon-to-be freshmen in college were still super competitive.

I teach high school upperclassmen, and it's been interesting the last few years how opinions and demographics have shifted around college. At least in rural Georgia, more and more students are choosing big state schools over elite private schools. Like, we've had kids get accepted to Ivies and choose to go to Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Auburn instead.

[biggie]

I know everyone has their pet political takes, but the actual cause of a lot of schools closing or downsizing is simply fewer students enrolling. American birth rate cratered in 2007 and never bounced back. There are far fewer kids for colleges to pull from. It's gonna get ugly for places that haven't been planning for this.

Wonder how much they increase tuition to try to cover the less students.

At the same time there are more applying than get in at every college that I know of currently. Way more competitive to get in than it was 30 years ago.

It WAS way more competitive, but it's about to get a lot easier to get into college starting this fall.

Apparently not this upcoming one. We'll see if anything happens next year. I have another one in 3 years, but hope he does community college for 2 years before transferring to 4 year.


"UNC-Chapel Hill received a record 14,931 Early Action applications from North Carolina residents for the Class of 2030 (fall 2026 enrollment). The university has not yet published its final, total application numbers (including regular decision and out-of-state pools) for this cohort.
Early Action Stats (Class of 2030)
In-state EA applications: 14,931
In-state EA admissions: 5,903
In-state EA acceptance rate: 39.5%

Previous Year Context (Class of 2029)
Total applicants: 84,317 total applicants (first-year and transfer combined)
Enrolled students: 6,191 new students (5,094 first-years and 1,097 transfers)"

Sorry, I meant next fall's class. The kids that will be seniors this year are the first class that's included in the birth bust. Of course, it also will vary based on geography, etc. The soon-to-be freshmen in college were still super competitive.

I teach high school upperclassmen, and it's been interesting the last few years how opinions and demographics have shifted around college. At least in rural Georgia, more and more students are choosing big state schools over elite private schools. Like, we've had kids get accepted to Ivies and choose to go to Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Auburn instead.

I wonder if price factors into not going to private as well? It is getting insane to pay for this and seems dificult to get scholarships even though there are a lot of them out there. In my daughter's class there were many with full rides that got other scholarships on top of the full ride. My daughter got none even being in top 10% of her class.