Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:34 pm

goapps93 wrote:I feel bad for the kid but the article is pretty one sided. I'm sure ODU wouldn't comment but no mention of even trying to contact ODU. Any college has to take into account existing injuries and how that is going to affect what they pay for a player down the road. Just imagine if App signed a kid fresh off of knee surgery and he comes in and injures it again in fall camp and ends his career. I'd bet some of you guys would be upset that we wasted a scholarship on that player knowing there was better chance than others that he never play a down.
That player would just get a medical hardship, which allows him to stay on scholarship for the rest of his undergrad career without counting against the football team's 85 limit.

Given that ODU not only knew about his injury but, according to the article, encouraged him to have surgery and not attempt to play in his senior season while assuring him that his spot in their class was safe, you'd have to say they willingly assumed any risk of future injury in exchange for keeping his commitment.

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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:48 pm

Rekdiver wrote:Is say that ODUs error is a direct benefit for App Charlotte and ECU across the state. This coach at Williams is angry.
I agree, if you're a outstanding coach at an outstanding program you can do what you want, but if you're not necessary top tier your character might go a long ways. I would think this situation might come up when ODU and other schools are battling for the same kid down the road.

I can understand it's a problem if a player got injured, but it looks like he could earn a non-playing scholarship for something if he's a good student. I don't know if that breaks rules or not, but colleges can give scholarships (or a jobs) for about anything.

I just think a program that helps a kid instead of throwing him/her under the bus, might help at least a minor bit in recruiting.
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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by appst89 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:07 pm

Maddog1956 wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:Is say that ODUs error is a direct benefit for App Charlotte and ECU across the state. This coach at Williams is angry.
I agree, if you're a outstanding coach at an outstanding program you can do what you want, but if you're not necessary top tier your character might go a long ways. I would think this situation might come up when ODU and other schools are battling for the same kid down the road.

I can understand it's a problem if a player got injured, but it looks like he could earn a non-playing scholarship for something if he's a good student. I don't know if that breaks rules or not, but colleges can give scholarships (or a jobs) for about anything.

I just think a program that helps a kid instead of throwing him/her under the bus, might help at least a minor bit in recruiting.
Texas A&M just honored an offer to a kid who was diagnosed with a heart disease that ended his playing career. Sumlin said A&M was going to stand by its commitment to the kid. I'd say they scored a lot of brownie points among Texas high schools with that gesture.

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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:08 pm

appst89 wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:Is say that ODUs error is a direct benefit for App Charlotte and ECU across the state. This coach at Williams is angry.
I agree, if you're a outstanding coach at an outstanding program you can do what you want, but if you're not necessary top tier your character might go a long ways. I would think this situation might come up when ODU and other schools are battling for the same kid down the road.

I can understand it's a problem if a player got injured, but it looks like he could earn a non-playing scholarship for something if he's a good student. I don't know if that breaks rules or not, but colleges can give scholarships (or a jobs) for about anything.

I just think a program that helps a kid instead of throwing him/her under the bus, might help at least a minor bit in recruiting.
Texas A&M just honored an offer to a kid who was diagnosed with a heart disease that ended his playing career. Sumlin said A&M was going to stand by its commitment to the kid. I'd say they scored a lot of brownie points among Texas high schools with that gesture.
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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by JCline0429 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:42 pm

AppinVA wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:It's apparent that Spurrier has no friends on this board.
FWIW, I've heard "ol' ball coach used in reference to dozens of coaches in the past.
Actually, I like Spurrier.

I don't know anything about him except he is a winner.
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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:54 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:It's apparent that Spurrier has no friends on this board.
FWIW, I've heard "ol' ball coach used in reference to dozens of coaches in the past.
Actually, I like Spurrier.

I don't know anything about him except he is a winner.
And there lies the reason why so many don't like him. He is a winner.

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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by JCline0429 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:59 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:It's apparent that Spurrier has no friends on this board.
FWIW, I've heard "ol' ball coach used in reference to dozens of coaches in the past.
Actually, I like Spurrier.

I don't know anything about him except he is a winner.
And there lies the reason why so many don't like him. He is a winner.
Sorta like the Yankees.
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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by asutrnr81 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:35 am

AppSt94 wrote:
moehler wrote:no doubt collage athletics are a dirty, cutthroat business, if you believe in Karma, this kid will recover, sign with someone else, play ODU, and make the game winning play that ruins ODU's season
I think calling college athletics dirty is rather harsh. What happened to this kid is unfortunate but it isn't like he was cast out into the streets with nothing. He still has a scholarship offer to a very good school with an opportunity to earn a top notch education. So he won't get to play this fall but it's not a lost year of eligibility.
Actually he might be referring to the "collAge" of athletics being dirty, which would be a larger indictment of/than "college" athletics......(TIC)!
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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:04 pm

Spurrier was smart enough to hire Elliott....Remember Spurrier gave Garcia all kind of chances sure the first two were for selfish reasons but the last time was to help the kid and give him a chance. Got no problem with Spurrier. I do have a problem with any coach that would take a scholarship from a Senior

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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by goapps93 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:54 pm

hapapp wrote:
goapps93 wrote:I feel bad for the kid but the article is pretty one sided. I'm sure ODU wouldn't comment but no mention of even trying to contact ODU. Any college has to take into account existing injuries and how that is going to affect what they pay for a player down the road. Just imagine if App signed a kid fresh off of knee surgery and he comes in and injures it again in fall camp and ends his career. I'd bet some of you guys would be upset that we wasted a scholarship on that player knowing there was better chance than others that he never play a down. If that's cut-throat then we're going to quickly run out of strong enough adjectives for all the worse things that happen to us in society everyday.
Would we wait until 4 days before signing day to inform him?
Depends on the situation and like I said we only had one side of the story. Could be that the knee is not fully healed, could be grades/qualification. As someone else stated they did not completely withdraw their offer, they offered the grayshirt. The article mentioned nothing at all about attempting to contact ODU. It's a pretty one sided, somewhat irresponsible, article. There could be more to it. Anybody know what kind of student he is?
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Re: Article on Burlington player shafted by ODU

Unread post by hapapp » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:03 pm

For me the biggest issue is when they did it not so much what they did. They pulled it four days before signing day.

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