Four Years of Capel (Series of Blogs)

Rekdiver · Unread post by **Rekdiver** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:05 pm

Yes I know it will be a small pool.

Kgfish · Unread post by **Kgfish** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:27 pm

appelect wrote:Better be taking a long hard look at Bobby Lutz before someone else does

Lutz makes more money at State than we can pay him. Rebuilding this team is going to take an extreme amount of energy. Guys on the back side of their careers aren't likely to take on that kind of a challenge. Probably settle for a lower level DI head coach, a hot shot assistant at a mid major school, or DII head coach looking to make a name for themselves. If they fall on their face they still have time to make a comeback. To much of a gamble for a older guy with head coaching experience going through the system for a second time.

wataugan03 · Unread post by **wataugan03** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:54 am

Kgfish wrote:
appelect wrote:Better be taking a long hard look at Bobby Lutz before someone else does
Lutz makes more money at State than we can pay him. Rebuilding this team is going to take an extreme amount of energy. Guys on the back side of their careers aren't likely to take on that kind of a challenge. Probably settle for a lower level DI head coach, a hot shot assistant at a mid major school, or DII head coach looking to make a name for themselves. If they fall on their face they still have time to make a comeback. To much of a gamble for a older guy with head coaching experience going through the system for a second time.

I don't think a lower level D1 head coach is in the mix. How many winning D1 coaches are there at schools paying significantly less than? And how many of those aren't holding out for a bigger, and better paying job than ours. I'd love to get Levelle Moton at NC Central, but I would bet he has his eyes on a bigger prize.

Rekdiver · Unread post by **Rekdiver** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:07 am

I wonder if somehow we can step up and pay a coach. I believe with the move to FBS we pay the football coaches more so if we have some money it would be nice to get our salary competitive enough to get someone like Bobby Lutz.

WataugaMan · Unread post by **WataugaMan** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:12 am

PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:ive said this before and ill say it again...do big donors at the hospital ask to perform surgeries since they did give money??? so why is it that one person who gives has the possibility of influencing the hiring of coaches/staff? last i checked, those people mentioned as big hitters with the dinero don't have that much of a sporting/coaching backround. if its that way, how much do these people actually give? im curious...whats a lot of money in terms of having influence? you wanna give? great...thanks...we all do our part...you wanna influence coaching decisions...go to the back of the line...with the rest of us and let those hired to make these decisions do their jobs.

I hear we're changing the name of our University to MHU.

appgrouch · Unread post by **appgrouch** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:54 am

WataugaMan wrote:
PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:ive said this before and ill say it again...do big donors at the hospital ask to perform surgeries since they did give money??? so why is it that one person who gives has the possibility of influencing the hiring of coaches/staff? last i checked, those people mentioned as big hitters with the dinero don't have that much of a sporting/coaching backround. if its that way, how much do these people actually give? im curious...whats a lot of money in terms of having influence? you wanna give? great...thanks...we all do our part...you wanna influence coaching decisions...go to the back of the line...with the rest of us and let those hired to make these decisions do their jobs.
I hear we're changing the name of our University to MHU.

I still like the University of North Carolina at Tweetsie

asu66 · Unread post by **asu66** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:24 pm

When the time comes, I believe Charlie Cobb will have quite a smörgåsbord of applications to choose from. These are the predictable applications...

He'll have a group of guys that will include Bobby Lutz who've been in charge of a rodeo or two and would like to do it again--somewhere. This group will likely also include Seth Greenberg. With the right contract language, we could attract someone from this group.

He'll have a mid-sized group of experienced current or former head coaches from mid-major institutions and D-II institutions who either want back into the saddle or who feel they are ready for a bigger saddle. These guys will be affordable--but are high risk for crashing and burning a la Tom Apke.

He'll have a much larger group of young lions that will include Matt McMahon who've paid their dues and are ready for a rodeo of their very own. Most of these guys will be affordable; Cobb just has to get the guy who is the most perfect fit for the job that has to be done. That just might turn out to be McMahon.

He'll have three dozen plus applications from wannabees who'll be screened out on the first reading.

Now, where it gets intriguing is the point at which Charlie picks up the phone and calls specific people that have been recommended to him by his peers. Most of these guys will be very comfortable where they are and are biding their time for the right opportunity. These are the guys who don't apply for jobs; they wait to be contacted about jobs. Here's where the cloak and dagger stuff happens! It'll be fun to watch these mysteries unfold. There will be a lot of activity at the NCAA Men's Final Four and the NABC in Dallas in early April

Our job in all of this, you ask? Our job is merely to hide and watch. Que sera sera!

eggers76 · Unread post by **eggers76** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:33 pm

asu66 wrote:

Our job in all of this, you ask? Our job is merely to hide and watch. Que sera sera!

You mean the MMB will not be polled for their collective advice??

asu66 · Unread post by **asu66** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:58 pm

eggers76 wrote:
asu66 wrote:

Our job in all of this, you ask? Our job is merely to hide and watch. Que sera sera!

You mean the MMB will not be polled for their collective advice??

It's soooooooooo devastating to us all. All we can do is hide and watch!

WataugaMan · Unread post by **WataugaMan** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Like a fly on the wall?

T-Dog · Unread post by **T-Dog** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:52 pm

For those who think Lutz won't take a paycut to be a head coach, look at Everett Withers. He took a paycut from being Ohio State DC to become JMU head coach. It happens a lot when the chance for a head coaching job arises.

Plus, Bobby isn't hurting for money. Charlotte has been paying him 382K a year even though he doesn't work there anymore plus his NC State salary (227K a year). Judy Rose gave him an extension a year before firing him. He gets his final check from Judy Rose in just over a month on March 31st.

wataugan03 · Unread post by **wataugan03** » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:31 pm

We don't know that Lutz isn't hurting for money, he may have blown it all on terrible investments . . . Buzz did.

But, its certainly possible to find an assistant coach willing to take a paycut to be a head coach. Its much harder if you're talking about an assistant coach with a stable job in a winning program, which is why we won't be able to steal Steve Robinson or Steve Wojciechowski. But, Lutz seems possible.

T-Dog · Unread post by **T-Dog** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:01 pm

Second installment of the Four Years of Capel. This time focusing on off-the-court including a damning look at the APR.

http://wp.me/p3hJXJ-1VV

Kgfish · Unread post by **Kgfish** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:03 pm

T-Dog wrote:For those who think Lutz won't take a paycut to be a head coach, look at Everett Withers. He took a paycut from being Ohio State DC to become JMU head coach. It happens a lot when the chance for a head coaching job arises.

Plus, Bobby isn't hurting for money. Charlotte has been paying him 382K a year even though he doesn't work there anymore plus his NC State salary (227K a year). Judy Rose gave him an extension a year before firing him. He gets his final check from Judy Rose in just over a month on March 31st.

Even if we can pay him what he wants I think it's more about career than the $'s. The next coach is facing a tremendous challenge. I question whether Lutz, at 56 years old (on April 4th), will be up for such a big task. And do we really want a UNCC reject?

Saint3333 · Unread post by **Saint3333** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:06 pm

If a coach can get us consistently under 150 in RPI and graduate players I don't care if he is a GSU reject at this point.

We haven't had three good seasons in a row since 1998-2000. And it was a long in between the one before that.

Kgfish · Unread post by **Kgfish** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:06 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:ive said this before and ill say it again...do big donors at the hospital ask to perform surgeries since they did give money??? so why is it that one person who gives has the possibility of influencing the hiring of coaches/staff? last i checked, those people mentioned as big hitters with the dinero don't have that much of a sporting/coaching backround. if its that way, how much do these people actually give? im curious...whats a lot of money in terms of having influence? you wanna give? great...thanks...we all do our part...you wanna influence coaching decisions...go to the back of the line...with the rest of us and let those hired to make these decisions do their jobs.
I hear we're changing the name of our University to MHU.

That guy has been scarce as hen's teeth since about half way through last season.

WataugaMan · Unread post by **WataugaMan** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:55 pm

Kgfish wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:
PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:ive said this before and ill say it again...do big donors at the hospital ask to perform surgeries since they did give money??? so why is it that one person who gives has the possibility of influencing the hiring of coaches/staff? last i checked, those people mentioned as big hitters with the dinero don't have that much of a sporting/coaching backround. if its that way, how much do these people actually give? im curious...whats a lot of money in terms of having influence? you wanna give? great...thanks...we all do our part...you wanna influence coaching decisions...go to the back of the line...with the rest of us and let those hired to make these decisions do their jobs.
I hear we're changing the name of our University to MHU.
That guy has been scarce as hen's teeth since about half way through last season.

That deserves a:

(snicker)

Kgfish · Unread post by **Kgfish** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:26 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
Kgfish wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:
PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:ive said this before and ill say it again...do big donors at the hospital ask to perform surgeries since they did give money??? so why is it that one person who gives has the possibility of influencing the hiring of coaches/staff? last i checked, those people mentioned as big hitters with the dinero don't have that much of a sporting/coaching backround. if its that way, how much do these people actually give? im curious...whats a lot of money in terms of having influence? you wanna give? great...thanks...we all do our part...you wanna influence coaching decisions...go to the back of the line...with the rest of us and let those hired to make these decisions do their jobs.
I hear we're changing the name of our University to MHU.
That guy has been scarce as hen's teeth since about half way through last season.
That deserves a:

(snicker)

Yes it does....

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