What's next for The Moose, AppGrad78 and 24/7?

[hapapp]

I don't post on here hardly ever, but a few thoughts. I was a manager during some of the Fancher years and have a fond memory of my time spent around ASU basketball. I am now a high school coach that stays in touch with lots of the former players and staff from my college years.
While I think Fancher was a solid coach, I have not seen anybody push, inspire, and make players better fundamentally than Matt McMahon and Tony Pujol did on a daily basis (McMahon mostly guards/Pujol bigs). Matt was ready to be a head coach then, he is more than ready now.. He had opportunities to go bigger/better places long before the 25 win 2007 season, most notably to Marquette when Crean was still there--as a top assistant. He bleeds black anmd gold--always has. He has always had a vested interest in making App a powerful mid major program that attracts excitement and big crowds. He is an accomplished recruiter. He is as good a basketball mind and as hard working a coach as I've seen.
I should be a nobody to a mid major assistant coach, but I can't tell you how many times I've asked him for guidance on any number of things--at ANY point in the year or the day--and gotten a phone call or email within minutes to talk with me.
I know I speak for lots of App basketball alumni when I say that all of us--the extended family of App basketball--will exhale and breath a sigh of relief if he were to get the job. I for one will be at every game possible and support his program because I know for a fact that it will be run with class and it will be successful on and off the floor. All of this being said, I haven't ever flat out asked if he would take this job were it available--it isn't my place to do so. Personally, I feel like he would jump on the chance to be back home...but that is simply an opinion.

Great to hear from someone who was close to the program and is still involved in the game. You've sold me that Matt would be an excellent choice. Obviously, I want to see an extensive search launched but I would be very supportive of a Matt McMahon hire.

[Maddog1956]

I don't post on here hardly ever, but a few thoughts. I was a manager during some of the Fancher years and have a fond memory of my time spent around ASU basketball. I am now a high school coach that stays in touch with lots of the former players and staff from my college years.
While I think Fancher was a solid coach, I have not seen anybody push, inspire, and make players better fundamentally than Matt McMahon and Tony Pujol did on a daily basis (McMahon mostly guards/Pujol bigs). Matt was ready to be a head coach then, he is more than ready now.. He had opportunities to go bigger/better places long before the 25 win 2007 season, most notably to Marquette when Crean was still there--as a top assistant. He bleeds black anmd gold--always has. He has always had a vested interest in making App a powerful mid major program that attracts excitement and big crowds. He is an accomplished recruiter. He is as good a basketball mind and as hard working a coach as I've seen.
I should be a nobody to a mid major assistant coach, but I can't tell you how many times I've asked him for guidance on any number of things--at ANY point in the year or the day--and gotten a phone call or email within minutes to talk with me.
I know I speak for lots of App basketball alumni when I say that all of us--the extended family of App basketball--will exhale and breath a sigh of relief if he were to get the job. I for one will be at every game possible and support his program because I know for a fact that it will be run with class and it will be successful on and off the floor. All of this being said, I haven't ever flat out asked if he would take this job were it available--it isn't my place to do so. Personally, I feel like he would jump on the chance to be back home...but that is simply an opinion.

I know it's only one opinion, but he does seem like someone that should be looked at. A personal attachment, knows the area and seems to be a good coach and person. If he's not at least on the list it would seem foolish to me (based on what others have said).

[asu66]

I don't post on here hardly ever, but a few thoughts. I was a manager during some of the Fancher years and have a fond memory of my time spent around ASU basketball. I am now a high school coach that stays in touch with lots of the former players and staff from my college years.
While I think Fancher was a solid coach, I have not seen anybody push, inspire, and make players better fundamentally than Matt McMahon and Tony Pujol did on a daily basis (McMahon mostly guards/Pujol bigs). Matt was ready to be a head coach then, he is more than ready now.. He had opportunities to go bigger/better places long before the 25 win 2007 season, most notably to Marquette when Crean was still there--as a top assistant. He bleeds black anmd gold--always has. He has always had a vested interest in making App a powerful mid major program that attracts excitement and big crowds. He is an accomplished recruiter. He is as good a basketball mind and as hard working a coach as I've seen.
I should be a nobody to a mid major assistant coach, but I can't tell you how many times I've asked him for guidance on any number of things--at ANY point in the year or the day--and gotten a phone call or email within minutes to talk with me.
I know I speak for lots of App basketball alumni when I say that all of us--the extended family of App basketball--will exhale and breath a sigh of relief if he were to get the job. I for one will be at every game possible and support his program because I know for a fact that it will be run with class and it will be successful on and off the floor. All of this being said, I haven't ever flat out asked if he would take this job were it available--it isn't my place to do so. Personally, I feel like he would jump on the chance to be back home...but that is simply an opinion.

I know it's only one opinion, but he does seem like someone that should be looked at. A personal attachment, knows the area and seems to be a good coach and person. If he's not at least on the list it would seem foolish to me (based on what others have said).

I'd like to believe McMahon would be on the short list. I really see no circumstance under which leaving him out of contention could be justified; short of Matt telling Charlie he's just not interested. Can't fathom those words coming from Matt.

In the meantime, there just seems to be no end to the D-II coaching names that someone is putting forward for fan discussion. The latest I've seen is Jim Crutchfield of West Liberty State of WV. This probably isn't the last one that'll surface.

http://www.hilltoppersports.com/coaches ... ath=mbball

[Maddog1956]

I'd like to believe McMahon would be on the short list. I really see no circumstance under which leaving him out of contention could be justified; short of Matt telling Charlie he's just not interested. Can't fathom those words coming from Matt.

In the meantime, there just seems to be no end to the D-II coaching names that someone is putting forward for fan discussion. The latest I've seen is Jim Crutchfield of West Liberty State of WV. This probably isn't the last one that'll surface.

http://www.hilltoppersports.com/coaches ... ath=mbball

Since he already has Black and Gold we might could save on his uniform, lol! Just a couple of patches here and there....


All kidding aside, there does seem to be some talent out there (if they are interested and don't already have plans), so there doesn't seem to be a reason not to get an improvement.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I don't post on here hardly ever, but a few thoughts. ...but that is simply an opinion.

8 posts and 9 rep points. Quality trumps quantity.

http://i.imgur.com/wUVlTWH

[IGgreer]

Yeah, no evidence besides Darcie, Billy Jones, Pendleton (RIP), and Wesley.

Brilliant job by Jones yesterday. He looked like a young Tony La Russa out there.

I'm impressed by your ability to be positive and optimistic at all times.

Always happy to supply the doses of reality this board desperately needs.

[AppState89]

I thought Matt McMahon should have been hired years ago. I hope he is the one. If he is and flops, then we move on, but Matt is a name that most "TRUE" App fans know, even if they follow football. Most of us know who Matt is and I enjoyed watching him play when he was at App!!!

I'll be hAPPY if they pick him.

[ASUMountaineer]

Yeah, no evidence besides Darcie, Billy Jones, Pendleton (RIP), and Wesley.

Brilliant job by Jones yesterday. He looked like a young Tony La Russa out there.

I'm impressed by your ability to be positive and optimistic at all times.

Always happy to supply the doses of reality this board desperately needs.

[JCline0429]

If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). If Greenberg shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as next Tuesday, March 11. If neither have interest, then my next contacts are with Mike Rhoades, ass't coach at VCU, Matt McMahon, ass't coach at Murray State, head coach Linc Darner at D-II Florida Southern and with head coach Darren "Dip" Metress at D-II Georgia Regents Univ. (the former Augusta State). While pursuing these possible candidates, I have no doubt that many others will make direct contact with my office or cross my radar screen.

By 7 PM Thursday evening, I'd be in Asheville for the SoCon Tourney. I'd also be digging into the credentials of some of these guys as part of my late-night homework...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155 ... basketball

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nt-coaches

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9651 ... ail/page/4

I don't think Cobb would make contacts until he has fired Capel. It wouldn't be kosher.

[appst89]

If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). If Greenberg shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as next Tuesday, March 11. If neither have interest, then my next contacts are with Mike Rhoades, ass't coach at VCU, Matt McMahon, ass't coach at Murray State, head coach Linc Darner at D-II Florida Southern and with head coach Darren "Dip" Metress at D-II Georgia Regents Univ. (the former Augusta State). While pursuing these possible candidates, I have no doubt that many others will make direct contact with my office or cross my radar screen.

By 7 PM Thursday evening, I'd be in Asheville for the SoCon Tourney. I'd also be digging into the credentials of some of these guys as part of my late-night homework...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155 ... basketball

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nt-coaches

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9651 ... ail/page/4

I don't think Cobb would make contacts until he has fired Capel. It wouldn't be kosher.

Charlie doesn't have to fire him. His contract runs out at the end of this season. Charlie needs to be making contacts now.

[JCline0429]

If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). If Greenberg shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as next Tuesday, March 11. If neither have interest, then my next contacts are with Mike Rhoades, ass't coach at VCU, Matt McMahon, ass't coach at Murray State, head coach Linc Darner at D-II Florida Southern and with head coach Darren "Dip" Metress at D-II Georgia Regents Univ. (the former Augusta State). While pursuing these possible candidates, I have no doubt that many others will make direct contact with my office or cross my radar screen.

By 7 PM Thursday evening, I'd be in Asheville for the SoCon Tourney. I'd also be digging into the credentials of some of these guys as part of my late-night homework...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155 ... basketball

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nt-coaches

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9651 ... ail/page/4

I don't think Cobb would make contacts until he has fired Capel. It wouldn't be kosher.

Charlie doesn't have to fire him. His contract runs out at the end of this season. Charlie needs to be making contacts now.

I realize it won't be a true firing, but still don't think it would be kosher effectively interviewing for a position which was still held by his employee unless it was a planned retirement.. Maintaining a short list would be wise, but making contacts wouldn't. I don't think Chancellor Peacock would approve either. If he was going to make contacts, he should announce that Capel's contract will not be renewed first.

[ASUMountaineer]

If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). If Greenberg shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as next Tuesday, March 11. If neither have interest, then my next contacts are with Mike Rhoades, ass't coach at VCU, Matt McMahon, ass't coach at Murray State, head coach Linc Darner at D-II Florida Southern and with head coach Darren "Dip" Metress at D-II Georgia Regents Univ. (the former Augusta State). While pursuing these possible candidates, I have no doubt that many others will make direct contact with my office or cross my radar screen.

By 7 PM Thursday evening, I'd be in Asheville for the SoCon Tourney. I'd also be digging into the credentials of some of these guys as part of my late-night homework...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155 ... basketball

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nt-coaches

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9651 ... ail/page/4

I don't think Cobb would make contacts until he has fired Capel. It wouldn't be kosher.

Charlie doesn't have to fire him. His contract runs out at the end of this season. Charlie needs to be making contacts now.

I realize it won't be a true firing, but still don't think it would be kosher effectively interviewing for a position which was still held by his employee unless it was a planned retirement.. Maintaining a short list would be wise, but making contacts wouldn't. I don't think Chancellor Peacock would approve either.

Ehh, may be splitting hairs here, but gauging interest and conducting interviews are different things. I certainly think he should be putting feelers out there.

[appst89]

If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). If Greenberg shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as next Tuesday, March 11. If neither have interest, then my next contacts are with Mike Rhoades, ass't coach at VCU, Matt McMahon, ass't coach at Murray State, head coach Linc Darner at D-II Florida Southern and with head coach Darren "Dip" Metress at D-II Georgia Regents Univ. (the former Augusta State). While pursuing these possible candidates, I have no doubt that many others will make direct contact with my office or cross my radar screen.

By 7 PM Thursday evening, I'd be in Asheville for the SoCon Tourney. I'd also be digging into the credentials of some of these guys as part of my late-night homework...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155 ... basketball

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nt-coaches

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9651 ... ail/page/4

I don't think Cobb would make contacts until he has fired Capel. It wouldn't be kosher.

Charlie doesn't have to fire him. His contract runs out at the end of this season. Charlie needs to be making contacts now.

I realize it won't be a true firing, but still don't think it would be kosher effectively interviewing for a position which was still held by his employee unless it was a planned retirement.. Maintaining a short list would be wise, but making contacts wouldn't. I don't think Chancellor Peacock would approve either.

I didn't say interview. I said make contacts and gauge interest; two completely different things.

[appgrouch]

If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). If Greenberg shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as next Tuesday, March 11. If neither have interest, then my next contacts are with Mike Rhoades, ass't coach at VCU, Matt McMahon, ass't coach at Murray State, head coach Linc Darner at D-II Florida Southern and with head coach Darren "Dip" Metress at D-II Georgia Regents Univ. (the former Augusta State). While pursuing these possible candidates, I have no doubt that many others will make direct contact with my office or cross my radar screen.

By 7 PM Thursday evening, I'd be in Asheville for the SoCon Tourney. I'd also be digging into the credentials of some of these guys as part of my late-night homework...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155 ... basketball

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nt-coaches

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9651 ... ail/page/4

I don't think Cobb would make contacts until he has fired Capel. It wouldn't be kosher.

Charlie doesn't have to fire him. His contract runs out at the end of this season. Charlie needs to be making contacts now.

I realize it won't be a true firing, but still don't think it would be kosher effectively interviewing for a position which was still held by his employee unless it was a planned retirement.. Maintaining a short list would be wise, but making contacts wouldn't. I don't think Chancellor Peacock would approve either.

Ehh, may be splitting hairs here, but gauging interest and conducting interviews are different things. I certainly think he should be putting feelers out there.

It is a common thing where there is a contract or a declared date of end of service to begin the hiring process with a start date of July 1 in this case.

[JCline0429]

If I were in Charlie Cobb's shoes, beginning today I'd be away from Boone thru mid-week to pay a personal visit to Bobby Lutz and to Seth Greenberg to assess their interest in taking a new team into the SunBelt Conference. If Lutz shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as it's feasible (his team is still in regular season play and on the bubble for the NCAA tourney). If Greenberg shows interest, I'm going to arrange to have him on campus as soon as next Tuesday, March 11. If neither have interest, then my next contacts are with Mike Rhoades, ass't coach at VCU, Matt McMahon, ass't coach at Murray State, head coach Linc Darner at D-II Florida Southern and with head coach Darren "Dip" Metress at D-II Georgia Regents Univ. (the former Augusta State). While pursuing these possible candidates, I have no doubt that many others will make direct contact with my office or cross my radar screen.

By 7 PM Thursday evening, I'd be in Asheville for the SoCon Tourney. I'd also be digging into the credentials of some of these guys as part of my late-night homework...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1155 ... basketball

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/

http://www.collegeinsider.com/belzer/nond1.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nt-coaches

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9651 ... ail/page/4

I don't think Cobb would make contacts until he has fired Capel. It wouldn't be kosher.

Charlie doesn't have to fire him. His contract runs out at the end of this season. Charlie needs to be making contacts now.

I realize it won't be a true firing, but still don't think it would be kosher effectively interviewing for a position which was still held by his employee unless it was a planned retirement.. Maintaining a short list would be wise, but making contacts wouldn't. I don't think Chancellor Peacock would approve either.

I didn't say interview. I said make contacts and gauge interest; two completely different things.

I didn't say "interview" either. I said "effectively." Asking someone if they would be interested in coming to ASU is close. It would definitely be perceived as having interest in the prospect.
Now if this was Chapel Hill, I would understand.

[WataugaMan]

It all depends on what your definition if "is" is.

[WVAPPeer]

He won't be talking to any coaches (unless he has consent from said coaches' AD) - I know some of you guys are anti-CC but the guy knows how the game is played --- there might be feelers thru 3rd or 4th parties but nothing direct until it is all on the up and up ---

[asu66]

I don't have JCapel's contract in front of me, but it's likely that it'll expire on March 30. It's also likely that he has accumulated annual leave (state lingo for earned vacation days) that he'll need to take. It's not out of the question that he'll clean out his office and be gone for all practical purposes within seven to ten days. Maybe sooner.

Since the assistant coaches were hired at different times, it's possible that their contract years expire later than Capel's. Cobb may have to name one of the assistants to serve as interim head coach until the search can be conducted and the new head coach hired. Someone has to ride herd on our players, do the usual and customary tailtwisting to keep them in class and out of trouble. Someone also has to hang on to our three signed recruits--Kedrick Flomo, Rasheed Worrell and of course, Devonte Graham.

If you'll think back a year or so, you'll recall that Houston Fancher was the interim head basketball coach at Tennessee for exactly two weeks. His job was simply to keep everything in gear until the permanent head coach could be hired and assume full responsibility.

Our AD would be taking a huge risk not to be making contacts and gauging interest now. Time is of the essence! And, yes, Charlie knows how it's done. He knows how to work through third parties.

Oh, BTW, it was HBK999 who sent me a wake-up call with his post yesterday. In thinking about head coaching prospects who can teach, who can build and who can recruit, I had completely overlooked former ASU assistant coach Tony Pujol. Tony's the FL native who was on Houston Fancher's staff for two seasons before moving to VCU to work with Anthony Grant and then leaving VCU with Grant for Alabama. It would be tough to pry him away from Grant's staff, but to become a collegiate head coach--who knows what he might say with a nice, tidy compensation/perks package. And he'd be recruiting in the states he knows best--the "Sunbelt" states. Just a thought!

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-baskbl ... ony00.html

[T-Dog]

Capel's contract officially expires March 31st but it doesn't mean he gets to keep his office until then.

[Kgfish]

I don't post on here hardly ever, but a few thoughts. I was a manager during some of the Fancher years and have a fond memory of my time spent around ASU basketball. I am now a high school coach that stays in touch with lots of the former players and staff from my college years.
While I think Fancher was a solid coach, I have not seen anybody push, inspire, and make players better fundamentally than Matt McMahon and Tony Pujol did on a daily basis (McMahon mostly guards/Pujol bigs). Matt was ready to be a head coach then, he is more than ready now.. He had opportunities to go bigger/better places long before the 25 win 2007 season, most notably to Marquette when Crean was still there--as a top assistant. He bleeds black anmd gold--always has. He has always had a vested interest in making App a powerful mid major program that attracts excitement and big crowds. He is an accomplished recruiter. He is as good a basketball mind and as hard working a coach as I've seen.
I should be a nobody to a mid major assistant coach, but I can't tell you how many times I've asked him for guidance on any number of things--at ANY point in the year or the day--and gotten a phone call or email within minutes to talk with me.
I know I speak for lots of App basketball alumni when I say that all of us--the extended family of App basketball--will exhale and breath a sigh of relief if he were to get the job. I for one will be at every game possible and support his program because I know for a fact that it will be run with class and it will be successful on and off the floor. All of this being said, I haven't ever flat out asked if he would take this job were it available--it isn't my place to do so. Personally, I feel like he would jump on the chance to be back home...but that is simply an opinion.

100% agree. By calling Matt Cobb will be essentially admitting he made a mistake - which is quite obvious at this point - last time. My hope is Charlie can able to swallow his pride and make the call. He can always blame it on Mark Harrell!!