Matt McMahon, come on down...

[IGgreer]

Pearl, Greenberg , etc. Are you serious???
Really???
Really???

+1

Do we have to listen to this again???

[appst89]

Pearl, Greenberg , etc. Are you serious???
Really???
Really???

+1

Do we have to listen to this again???

Watch the language.

[appgrad]

If I am Charlie Cobb, this man would be getting an interview pronto. He has coached all over the Division 1 and Division 2 ranks and currently is in the midst of a 25-2 season at Lincoln Memorial University this year. His name is Josh Schertz.

Take a look at what he has done wherever he has been, he can flat out coach the game of basketball. He has a record of 137-40 in his nearly six years now at LMU, including a 103-17 record since the beginning of the 2010-2011 season.

I am not saying hire the guy but he definitely deserves a look with what he has accomplished.

http://lmurailsplitters.com/profile.asp?playerID=73

Railsplitters is just a fantastic nickname. That is all.

[appgrad]

I want the best coach our budgeted salary can buy. And hopefully that's now on par or higher than your average Sun Belt coach. I don't care if he's played or coached here before. It isn't rocket science. Either you know how to recruit & win or you don't...

[asutrnr81]

I want the best coach our budgeted salary can buy. And hopefully that's now on par or higher than your average Sun Belt coach. I don't care if he's played or coached here before. It isn't rocket science. Either you know how to recruit & win or you don't...

Knowing how to win and winning will probably take care of the recruiting! ....but not necessarily the opposite.

[T-Dog]

The only knock on McMahon is no head coaching experience With the problems the program is about to face, that might be a bigger qualification than before. I hate to say it, but McMahon was a better fit four years ago than he is today. Doesn't disqualify him from the job, but he needs to kill it in the interview process and have a plan of action going forward on all fronts.

Maybe hire McMahon with an older former head coach as associate coach? Kind of like the first year of Capel with Scruggs, except hope for better results.

[Rekdiver]

TDog with respect we don't need a coach in waiting.

[AppDawg]

If I am Charlie Cobb, this man would be getting an interview pronto. He has coached all over the Division 1 and Division 2 ranks and currently is in the midst of a 25-2 season at Lincoln Memorial University this year. His name is Josh Schertz.

Take a look at what he has done wherever he has been, he can flat out coach the game of basketball. He has a record of 137-40 in his nearly six years now at LMU, including a 103-17 record since the beginning of the 2010-2011 season.

I am not saying hire the guy but he definitely deserves a look with what he has accomplished.

http://lmurailsplitters.com/profile.asp?playerID=73

Along these same lines I would add Derrick Clark to the short list. Has been very successful at the D-2 level.

http://gometrostate.com/coaches.aspx?rc=261

[hbk999]

A few stray thoughts:
1) D2 Basketball compliance is like the wild west when it comes to recruiting and violations. I don't know any of the names on the list personally and can't vouch one way or the other for their character BUT there is a reason that we don't see more D2 to D1 jumps than we do.
2) For all intents and purposes, McMahon was the "coach in waiting" under both Fancher to a certain extent, and then Peterson. The fact that Capel jumped him in line was the perplexing part.
3) The Pearl/Greenberg talk is nonsense. Pearl especially is in position to jump straight into another high major job when he is ready. If one of them had even ONE successful year, they would jump like Bobby Petrino. This is a stepping stone job of sorts, but I'd like it to be one that rewards someone that builds the program up for a few years and cares about the long term health of the program.
4) The Sun Belt coaches are John Brady, Steve Shields, Ron Hunter, Bob Marlin, Keith Richard, Scott Cross, Matthew Graves, Ray Harper, Danny Kaspar, and Phil Cunningham. If you think this is a league that draws big name castoffs then you are delusional about the state of this conference and the program.

[AppStateNews]

TDog with respect we don't need a coach in waiting.

He wasn't saying a coach in waiting scenario. He was saying McMahon as the head man with an experienced head coach as an associate coach to mentor Matt and help him get the program back on track.

[MDaniels84]

First of all, I would be all for Matt if he is deemed the successor to this awful experiment gone bad. I thought that it was interesting that Cliff Ellis (Coastal Carolina) won the Big South tourney over Winthrop. Cliff has now taken South Alabama, Clemson, Auburn and now Coastal to the dance. Is there a reason that we could not have made a hire like this if the Chants got him.

[MAD Doctor]

A proven winner with something left in the tank is not a bad choice. The current Cliff Ellis example is a good one, along with Bartow, Lefty, Cremmins, and others from the past. Heck, Larry Brown has even made SMU basketball relevant. If we get 2-3 years, that's about the same as what we'd get for finding a new "up and coming" HC, who would move on and up. Plus, like the Myrtle Beach area for Ellis, the High Country is a great place for the more mature, proven HC. Hmmm, Who'd be on that list???

[TheMoody1]

TDog with respect we don't need a coach in waiting.

He wasn't saying a coach in waiting scenario. He was saying McMahon as the head man with an experienced head coach as an associate coach to mentor Matt and help him get the program back on track.

I think he is saying we don't need to be the "on the job training" stop for another head coach.

[IGgreer]

First of all, I would be all for Matt if he is deemed the successor to this awful experiment gone bad. I thought that it was interesting that Cliff Ellis (Coastal Carolina) won the Big South tourney over Winthrop. Cliff has now taken South Alabama, Clemson, Auburn and now Coastal to the dance. Is there a reason that we could not have made a hire like this if the Chants got him.

Cliff Ellis is big time into Beach Music. He sings and also dances competitively. Coastal Carolina is his dream job.

[bcoach]

Pearl, Greenberg , etc. Are you serious???
Really???
Really???

Well at least now we know how the Old Mountain Jug got empty.

[app97]

How about McMahon with Houston Fancher as the experienced associate head coach? Not that Fancher would come back to Boone after being dismissed. But, those 2 guys seemed to run a clean program and did a decent job recruiting.

Or....if we could get Bobby Lutz, he could keep Kummer on staff since they worked together at uncc. Or, would Kummer even be desirable to keep in Boone? Sometimes, I've wondered if he should have been running the program the last few years. You could see him clenching his jaws and grimacing constantly while watching Capel's players make mistakes. He's worked under Lutz and Melvin Watkins at uncc and Texas A&M. He was probably the best coach on staff the last few years, if experience matters.

[asutrnr81]

How about McMahon with Houston Fancher as the experienced associate head coach? Not that Fancher would come back to Boone after being dismissed. But, those 2 guys seemed to run a clean program and did a decent job recruiting.

Or....if we could get Bobby Lutz, he could keep Kummer on staff since they worked together at uncc. Or, would Kummer even be desirable to keep in Boone? Sometimes, I've wondered if he should have been running the program the last few years. You could see him clenching his jaws and grimacing constantly while watching Capel's players make mistakes. He's worked under Lutz and Melvin Watkins at uncc and Texas A&M. He was probably the best coach on staff the last few years, if experience matters.

You bring up an interesting point about Kummer, that I never thought about before....because frankly, I saw him do nothing during the games. It looked to me like he was going through the motions.

I saw Sampson and Gainey "coaching" the kids up during games. Sampson was the only one to email me back about a recruit as I emailed all three assistants.

I think the new head coach would be hard pressed to ask back anyone off this staff....not impossible but hard pressed. ....and not that they do not deserve to come back from a "coaching" stand point. But I just think starting over might be the best proposition.

[AppDawg]

A few stray thoughts:
3) The Pearl/Greenberg talk is nonsense. Pearl especially is in position to jump straight into another high major job when he is ready. If one of them had even ONE successful year, they would jump like Bobby Petrino. This is a stepping stone job of sorts, but I'd like it to be one that rewards someone that builds the program up for a few years and cares about the long term health...

I tend to agree about a ONE year stop but have another perspective in being a proponent of a Bruce Pearl hire. I view it as a lucrative short term investment. We most likely could get him at a discount due to the show-cause, we get a proven winner, someone who has experience drumming up interest at a "football" school... All things we desperately need. Knowing it is more than likely a short term situation, we should lock him up in a contract WKU style (bobby petrino). Have a big buyout ($1 million) and include in that buyout the requirement for the school that he leaves for to play a home game in Boone while students are in town. This does 3 things:
1- shows all of us (alumni and fans) the admin is serious about b-ball being important to the university and not the afterthought it has been by slipping into the "we can't do that at Appalachian" mindset. We need something "BIG" to happen to get the attention of fans. This would do it and set '14/'15 up to be exciting.
2- when he leaves, the sizable buyout would position us to up the level of coach we are able to afford to hire. Potentially a "career hire."
3- we get a much needed high profile home game.

Other thoughts:
If the above route is not taken (either via pearl or other "high profile/name known coach", i think our b-ball program is dead until we make the NCAA tourney (if that ever even happens again). Heck we are #335 and falling in RPI, what do we have to lose? I am ALL-IN.

[T-Dog]

https://twitter.com/ASU_McMahonLand

[EastHallApp]

4) The Sun Belt coaches are John Brady, Steve Shields, Ron Hunter, Bob Marlin, Keith Richard, Scott Cross, Matthew Graves, Ray Harper, Danny Kaspar, and Phil Cunningham. If you think this is a league that draws big name castoffs then you are delusional about the state of this conference and the program.

The first guy you named was coaching an SEC team in the Final Four less than a decade ago, was he not? And Lefty Driesell coached Georgia State for a few years.

Not to mention various examples of small schools from other similar conferences (e.g., Cremins at CofC, Mike Jarvis at FAU, etc.)