New Hoops Coach WILL NOT Be Bobby Lutz

[97APP]

There are TWO reasons that candidates remove their names from consideration for a very visible position.
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The other is that the person [in this case Lutz] wishes to save face because he's learned that the job is really being offered to another candidate who is likely to accept.
We can hope it's #2. If it is, we will begin to hear the name in speculation very, very soon.

This is the reason I would hesitate to complain just yet. This happens all too oftenwhen a coach finds out that they aren't being selected for a job, if their name has been publicaly connected with the search. Now, if we don't name anyone in the next couple of weeks, complain away.

[asu66]

some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....

Murray State University Athletics

McMahon, Matthew J Asst Mens Basketball Coach
Office Phone: 809-6768
Office Location: 217 SS
Email: mmcmahon@murraystate.edu

THIS x 1000!

Let's get someone who truly wants to be here, and will put everything into rebuilding this mess.

Come on Charlie... DO THE RIGHT THING!

I would send him an email. I did and to my surprise he responded.

Charlie always responds rather promptly and politely. It's usually a short sentence or phrase; but he does take time to reply. Gotta score him ++ on that.

[APPARJ]

some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....

Murray State University Athletics

McMahon, Matthew J Asst Mens Basketball Coach
Office Phone: 809-6768
Office Location: 217 SS
Email: mmcmahon@murraystate.edu

Yes another coach with 0 head coaching experience and within the same coaching tree we have been in for nearly 2 decades.

I would hire him but I do not like that he is from the same tree as the past 3 coaches (Buzz twice). I would like to get a fresh name and ideology.

Matt McMahon was VERY instrumental in helping put together some of the most successful teams in App State history. Fancher was a solid coach but McMahon can be a special coach for us.

Also, McMahon is not Buzz Jr. or Fancher the Sequel. Matt would bring his own brand of basketball and I promise you it would be a LOT better than what we're used to by now.

[PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY]

would someone take one for the team and stand behind the pooch??? because we need to screw it....unc-w has named a coach as are other teams...how many out there have not i wonder???? im not saying we're in crisis mode but remember that we have recruits watching whats going on and they are directly linked to how app succeeds in the near future...they need to be put at ease about a qualified/energizing coach. if u look at buzz at wilmington...he lost a lot of guys to transfer and grades and recruits bolted...now that programs in shambles...i hope we dont make the same mistake by dragging this out.

[wilsonappman]

Don't forget guys, Final 4 weekend is always the best opportunity to rub elbows with perspective candidates. For all we know, Cobb has lined up several interviews for that weekend. I think the Lutz situation was one worth swinging for. If we could have landed him I think it would have been great for our program. We didn't, so now we move on. I am definitely not in panic mode at this time.

[hapapp]

It would seem the longer we wait the more likely the two guys seeking their release from their LOI will not reconsider that decision. I don't blame them for getting impatient. We do need to make the right choice but we are approaching 3 weeks now. I don't know if the Lutz decision puts us back at square one or whether he was aware that someone else was our first choice. If it is the latter hopefully a decision is forthcoming.

[hapapp]

Don't forget guys, Final 4 weekend is always the best opportunity to rub elbows with perspective candidates. For all we know, Cobb has lined up several interviews for that weekend. I think the Lutz situation was one worth swinging for. If we could have landed him I think it would have been great for our program. We didn't, so now we move on. I am definitely not in panic mode at this time.

That could be true but I would hate to think we are at a point where we are still narrowing down candidates after nearly 3 weeks.

[IGgreer]

Close a damn deal Cobb....smh

[Dmanuhone]

Take your time Charlie.

[wilsonappman]

At this point, those two recruits and their LOI's should be the last thing on our minds. IMO, we need to find the right fit and take as much time as possible to get that done. At that point, the new coach will try to sell those guys on his style and vision. If they like it they will stay and play. If not, they will request permission to get out of their LOI and we should grant it. I'm done with guys hanging around that don't want to be here. In case you haven't noticed, we are going to be starting from square one, with those guys or without!!

[hapapp]

At this point, those two recruits and their LOI's should be the last thing on our minds. IMO, we need to find the right fit and take as much time as possible to get that done. At that point, the new coach will try to sell those guys on his style and vision. If they like it they will stay and play. If not, they will request permission to get out of their LOI and we should grant it. I'm done with guys hanging around that don't want to be here. In case you haven't noticed, we are going to be starting from square one, with those guys or without!!

I don't disagree. The two 2014 recruits shouldn't be a deciding factor in choosing a coach. But, if we are waiting until next weekend to narrow done the potential choices, we have been wasting a lot of time in the meantime. I want us to get it right but I'm not sure it should take a month to find a coach.

[PhillyApp1]

lets get the buzz back

Are we buzzing with some cocktails !!

[goapps93]

You know, some of you are going to be pissed no matter what. If we would have hired someone last week some would have said it was too soon. Some think we've already waited too long. WAY to much speculation on here. There are lots of good candidates out there and like some have said Final Four weekend is next weekend. I'm not overly concerned about losing next year's recruits at this point. Depending on who we hire we might lose them anyway, or withdraw their offer for that matter. Let's just chill for a little while longer.

[WVAPPeer]

According to ESPN 10 head coaching jobs have been filled and 14 remain open ---

[moehler]

surprised by Lutz, not like a lot of programs are knocking down his door asking him to be their head coach, like you guys, would love to know the reason, personally, I don't think losing Lutz is such a big deal, good, solid, coach, but definitely not a "world beater", hopefully CC gets the hire done soon, at this point no one has a clue who the new head coach will be.

[asu66]

Don't forget guys, Final 4 weekend is always the best opportunity to rub elbows with perspective candidates. For all we know, Cobb has lined up several interviews for that weekend. I think the Lutz situation was one worth swinging for. If we could have landed him I think it would have been great for our program. We didn't, so now we move on. I am definitely not in panic mode at this time.

No need for a panic amongst our clan. There will be literally dozens and dozens of job offers made next weekend at the Final Four and the NABC convention in Dallas. There, our folks can meet candidates face to face w/o the need for phones. Very, very few Division I head coaches and Division I assistants miss this event. Every institution budgets for it. It's a nice, but relatively inexpensive perk athletic departments can offer their folks.

[Saint3333]

I would have been fine with Lutz, not overly excited, not disappointed.

I feel the same about not getting him.

[spong]

David Glenn put it well today talking about the Wake Forest job:

Finding a head coach is like asking a girl out to the promo. You ask the top candidates first knowing that they will probably turn you down and then you go with the more interested not so popular individuals.

Bobby Lutz and Mike Rhoades were our Homecoming queen and star cheerleader. We still have guys like Derrick Clark at Metro, Linc Darner at Florida Southern, and Dugger Baucom at VMI potentially on the radar. I think all three of those coaches could do incredible things at App State.

[Kgfish]

surprised by Lutz, not like a lot of programs are knocking down his door asking him to be their head coach, like you guys, would love to know the reason, personally, I don't think losing Lutz is such a big deal, good, solid, coach, but definitely not a "world beater", hopefully CC gets the hire done soon, at this point no one has a clue who the new head coach will be.

Doesn't surprise me one bit. The next coach faces pending loss of scholarships due to APR issues and one of the lowest budgets in the Sun Belt. Forget his personal salary the more importantly issue is he probably will have a mediocre salary budget for assistants. When you toss apathy in the fan base on top of a program that has made 2 trips to the NCAA Tournament in 40 years, you're looking at one massive rebuilding job. Not many guys 60 are ready to tackle something like that.

[appdaze]

surprised by Lutz, not like a lot of programs are knocking down his door asking him to be their head coach, like you guys, would love to know the reason, personally, I don't think losing Lutz is such a big deal, good, solid, coach, but definitely not a "world beater", hopefully CC gets the hire done soon, at this point no one has a clue who the new head coach will be.

He has one daughter at NC STATE as a student and possibly one at UNC I'm not sure on the second daughter. From what I've heard his wife likes living down there between raleigh and chapel hill. It wouldn't surprise me either if he thinks he has a foot in the door for the NCSU job should Gottfried be let go.

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