What Will CC Decide?

asu66 · Unread post by **asu66** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:41 pm

Guys and gals, methinks we are making this basketball hiring process seem endless and hopeless to some doubting fans by continuing to post under a "Bobby Lutz" thread. Methinks we need to bury that thread and start posting in a more positive "climate." Bobby Lutz is "dead" to us! He works at Planet Wolfpack!

I'm looking for MMB members to change direction with me to..."What Will CC Decide?" Who'll follow me?

asutrnr81 · Unread post by **asutrnr81** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:11 pm

I think Charlie had a good direction with Lutz, and Rhoades. Those two seem to be top of the line assistants. I think it speaks well of the search that Rhoades and Lutz were "at" the top of the list.

Now I every reason to believe that he has a second group. I think that group probably includes a couple of people we know, Baucom, Maybe Darner, and hopefully Matt gets a shot. I also think the group probably includes some folks we have not talked about and thought of.

I'd say it gets done in a few days from here.

I'd also say he is earning his pay this weekend!

firemoose · Unread post by **firemoose** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:53 pm

I'm here and standing by. Figure the Lutz thread should be locked. Nothing to see and nothing more to discuss. Time to look forward.

wncapp78 · Unread post by **wncapp78** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:25 pm

http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m- ... 99033.html

EastHallApp · Unread post by **EastHallApp** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:50 pm

Sounds good to me. I'd be very happy with either McMahon or Baucom. I'm sure there are numerous assistants and D2 coaches who could also do well, though I'm simply not familiar enough with most of them to have a strong opinion (esp. the D2 guys). Have enjoyed reading people's views on here and hope Cobb finds a great coach whenever one is available.

HeffnerIV · Unread post by **HeffnerIV** » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:57 pm

Why does the Barton Coach never get mentioned for any jobs?

http://bartonbulldogs.com/sports/mbkb/coaches/index

asu66 · Unread post by **asu66** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:45 am

HeffnerIV wrote:Why does the Barton Coach never get mentioned for any jobs?

http://bartonbulldogs.com/sports/mbkb/coaches/index

It may be his decision. He knows that his practice of prayer--often on the court with his team--is acceptable as long as he coaches at a private, parochial institution. If/When he goes to a public institution, he'll have to be a lot more discrete with it or face disciplinary action.

ASUGoose · Unread post by **ASUGoose** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:33 pm

I'd be open to the guy from VMI, only from the standpoint that he would make the team fun to watch. Even if he gets us back to a .500 team, that's a hell of lot better than where we are now. I still think we should go hard after Levelle Moton at HC @ NCCU. I think our only play is to give him a substantial salary bump from what he is making at NCCU. I wish I knew more about the D2 coach from Metro State, but I can't say either way whether I like him as option.

asutrnr81 · Unread post by **asutrnr81** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:05 pm

ASUGoose wrote:I'd be open to the guy from VMI, only from the standpoint that he would make the team fun to watch. Even if he gets us back to a .500 team, that's a hell of lot better than where we are now. I still think we should go hard after Levelle Moton at HC @ NCCU. I think our only play is to give him a substantial salary bump from what he is making at NCCU. I wish I knew more about the D2 coach from Metro State, but I can't say either way whether I like him as option.

I watched the NCCU game in the tournament. Now they were clearly outmanned and they honestly may not have been able to make the adjustments from the talent level....I saw a lot of what I saw out of our current situation. When we could out-athlete someone we did ok....when it came to an APPortunity to outcoach someone.....we failed. I just did not see the game adjustments I would have expected out of a coach in the NCAA tournament.

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:08 pm

Would the SB let us drop BB?

EastHallApp · Unread post by **EastHallApp** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:46 pm

Moton would be an impressive hire and potentially a great one, but I just doubt whether he'd be interested. Can't hurt to call, of course.

appstate87 · Unread post by **appstate87** » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:40 pm

Alvin Gentry!

Hey I can dream, can't I?

asu66 · Unread post by **asu66** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:26 am

The Hoop Dirt basketball coaching rumor blog continues to name names we've heard before. On Sunday afternoon, the Dirt King reiterated what we've been hearing for two weeks...

* Duggar Baucom - VMI
* Derrick Clark - Metro State
* Levelle Moton - NC Central ... http://www.levellemoton.com/home.html Sounds like he
may be involved at FAU, Jacksonville and Marshall as well. A hot name after leading his alma
mater to a 28 win season and an NCAA appearance. Has been the head coach at NCCU since
2009 – was an assistant there before that.

But, there's new material; relatively new, anyway!

* Ritchie McKay – Associate Head Coach Virginia. Former head coach at Liberty, New Mexico,
Oregon State, Colorado State, and Portland State. Holds a 204-186 record in 13 seasons as a DI
head coach.

* Darrin Horn – Former Head Coach South Carolina. Former head coach South Carolina and
Western Kentucky. Holds a 171-111 record in 9 seasons as a DI head coach. Had 4 straight 22+
win seasons at WKU capping it off with a 29 win campaign in 2007-08. Also worked as an
assistant at Marquette under Tom Crean. Despite the glowing record at his alma mater, WKU,
Horn struggled to a 60-63 record at South Carolina and was fired after four seasons. He has
remained out of coaching since; but USC paid him some $2.4 mil not to coach.

HkyMtneer · Unread post by **HkyMtneer** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:50 am

asu66 wrote:The Hoop Dirt basketball coaching rumor blog continues to name names we've heard before. On Sunday afternoon, the Dirt King reiterated what we've been hearing for two weeks...

* Duggar Baucom - VMI
* Derrick Clark - Metro State
* Levelle Moton - NC Central ... http://www.levellemoton.com/home.html Sounds like he
may be involved at FAU, Jacksonville and Marshall as well. A hot name after leading his alma
mater to a 28 win season and an NCAA appearance. Has been the head coach at NCCU since
2009 – was an assistant there before that.

But, there's new material; relatively new, anyway!

* Ritchie McKay – Associate Head Coach Virginia. Former head coach at Liberty, New Mexico,
Oregon State, Colorado State, and Portland State. Holds a 204-186 record in 13 seasons as a DI
head coach.

* Darrin Horn – Former Head Coach South Carolina. Former head coach South Carolina and
Western Kentucky. Holds a 171-111 record in 9 seasons as a DI head coach. Had 4 straight 22+
win seasons at WKU capping it off with a 29 win campaign in 2007-08. Also worked as an
assistant at Marquette under Tom Crean. Despite the glowing record at his alma mater, WKU,
Horn struggled to a 60-63 record at South Carolina and was fired after four seasons. He has
remained out of coaching since; but USC paid him some $2.4 mil not to coach.

Darrin Horn's name is intriguing to me. I like his style of play, and I think he was just in a bit over his head at USC, which lets be honest, is a tough place to coach basketball, for a variety of reasons. He obviously has those "Sun Belt roots" that we've heard CC say he finds important, and he should know the recruiting territory around us pretty well from his time at WKU and in Columbia. The question is (as it always is going to be, or so it would appear) this: is CC interested, is he interested, and can we afford him.

p3y · Unread post by **p3y** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:30 am

Linc Darner(Florida Southern):

Best winning percentage From(07-present) among all Florida NCAA schools(yes even the GATORS)school
at .77%, GATORs at .73.

Ranked 2nd in wins among all Florida NCAA schools since 07-08 season at 174. GATORS are number one but they also play more games than D2.

3 teams in D2 to have 20 plus win seasons since 07-08 season to present.
1 of 2 NCAA schools to play in NCAA Tournament past seven seasons.

5 Coach of the year awards
5 SSC conference championships
5 SSC Conference Tournament Championships
Team Avgs over 80 plus points a game for last 12 seasons
Rebuilt 2 programs!!!!

Consistent year after year winner!!!!

Ties to the App State basketball family,

Brother(Tige) is a former player and radio announcer for the Mountaineers!

spong · Unread post by **spong** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:03 am

I've talked about before how Ritchie McKay as one of the best paid assistants in the country that walked away from a good(ish) head coaching situation at Liberty to be an assistant at Virginia is unlikely to come to Boone.

Darrin Horn is an interesting name to throw into the hat. There are a few potential problems with Darrin Horn. I don't know how his buy-out with South Carolina works. becoming a head coach again might mess with his buy-out and not coaching for SC would probably pay better than coaching for App State.

I also don't know his salary situation at Western Kentucky but they are a basketball first school and I'm sure paid considerably better than we are able. I'm not sure he's interested in coaching at this level and with the APR issues and fan-base issues.

I don't know the answers to these questions but if you know click reply.

ASUPATCH · Unread post by **ASUPATCH** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:12 am

p3y wrote:Linc Darner(Florida Southern):

Best winning percentage From(07-present) among all Florida NCAA schools(yes even the GATORS)school
at .77%, GATORs at .73.

Ranked 2nd in wins among all Florida NCAA schools since 07-08 season at 174. GATORS are number one but they also play more games than D2.

3 teams in D2 to have 20 plus win seasons since 07-08 season to present.
1 of 2 NCAA schools to play in NCAA Tournament past seven seasons.

5 Coach of the year awards
5 SSC conference championships
5 SSC Conference Tournament Championships
Team Avgs over 80 plus points a game for last 12 seasons
Rebuilt 2 programs!!!!

Consistent year after year winner!!!!

Ties to the App State basketball family,

Brother(Tige) is a former player and radio announcer for the Mountaineers!

Linc.........is that you.? Three posts ever on the board and all three pertain to Mr Darner. I like the hire personally but it seems a bit fishy.

Gonzo · Unread post by **Gonzo** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:38 am

ASUPATCH wrote:
p3y wrote:Linc Darner(Florida Southern):

Best winning percentage From(07-present) among all Florida NCAA schools(yes even the GATORS)school
at .77%, GATORs at .73.

Ranked 2nd in wins among all Florida NCAA schools since 07-08 season at 174. GATORS are number one but they also play more games than D2.

3 teams in D2 to have 20 plus win seasons since 07-08 season to present.
1 of 2 NCAA schools to play in NCAA Tournament past seven seasons.

5 Coach of the year awards
5 SSC conference championships
5 SSC Conference Tournament Championships
Team Avgs over 80 plus points a game for last 12 seasons
Rebuilt 2 programs!!!!

Consistent year after year winner!!!!

Ties to the App State basketball family,

Brother(Tige) is a former player and radio announcer for the Mountaineers!

Linc.........is that you.? Three posts ever on the board and all three pertain to Mr Darner. I like the hire personally but it seems a bit fishy.

EastHallApp · Unread post by **EastHallApp** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:35 am

Horn is an interesting possibility. Great record at WKU, and (if Wikipedia can be trusted) uses an up-tempo, full-court press style that could help bring in fans (I remember his teams at WKU, just don't remember about style of play).

I'm not all that impressed with McKay's resume, honestly. He's left four different HC jobs after two years, and his record isn't really all that good anyway (sound familiar?). Only two 20-win seasons in 13 years as a HC, and one of those was because he had Seth Curry at Liberty.

Kgfish · Unread post by **Kgfish** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:46 am

My money is on Horn.

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